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Illust Logic DS + Colorful Logic Comments by John Walker

16 January, 2008

The Slitherlink of Picross.

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sailesh
16/01/08 @ 14:02
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picross is great... this looks better... i want it NOW!
onyxbox
16/01/08 @ 14:17
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you lot love ya' puzzlers dont cha'?
Inspirius
16/01/08 @ 14:20
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This sounds worth it for colour picross alone!
Scarbir
16/01/08 @ 14:23
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9/10? Oh dear. Since the colors are better than Picross too, I should consider this.
Beardedmonkey
16/01/08 @ 14:23
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Noooooooo! Just as I was beginning to wriggle free of Slitherlink's vice-like grip!

/waves goodbye to hours of his life and, potentially, his missus.
Horse
16/01/08 @ 14:41
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Yes, but can you use the stylus to control it? The wife plays Picross DS obsessively since I got it for her, but she's a touch of arthritis in her hands & using the buttons for long periods is pretty painful. If the stylus control is as good as Picross DS that's good enough for me to get it for her...
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Killerbee
16/01/08 @ 14:41
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Puzzlers are one of those funny genres that traditionally, I imagine, sold quite poorly. But now that Brain Training has cemented itself to the upper reaches of the charts, surely there's a great precedent for making lots of money out of these non-traditional games.

Also, I'm completely addicted to Puzzle Quest at the moment so maybe, just maybe, if someone picks this and/or Slitherlink up for a European release, they'd have it ready just in time for me to finish that? Pretty please?

Here's hoping.
Leolian'sBro
16/01/08 @ 14:44
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frod, frod, frod...
Santino
16/01/08 @ 14:45
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i frickin love Picross DS,so this looks very interesting to me. although i must say i quite like the stylus control in Picross DS.
GrandpaUlrira
16/01/08 @ 14:47
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There's a distinct lack of downloadable content for Picross DS, and when they had that Japanese festival it didn't bloody save the puzzles to my cart anyway, even after I waited for them to download.
Kelduum
16/01/08 @ 15:02
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For reasons someone else will explain, Picross is called Illust Logic in Japan

Nobody want to explain that?

Ok, I will... Illustration puzzles which are Logic games.

The same way Anime is short for Animated.
Der_tolle_Emil
16/01/08 @ 16:03
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Holy shit, I really do need this. I spent so much time with Picross DS and the color puzzles sound fantastic.
el_pollo_diablo
16/01/08 @ 16:19
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Also recommended:

WORDJONG
botherer
16/01/08 @ 16:24
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Horse - yes, you can totally play with the stylus, and it doesn't do that stupid zooming in thing Picross DS does.
Kiigan
16/01/08 @ 16:39
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Nice review John. I like picross games so this one looks well worth a punt.
lemonfist
16/01/08 @ 16:52
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10/10 worthy stuff.
Saladin
16/01/08 @ 16:53
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Who plays Picross DS with the slow, irritiating button controls? True pros use the touch screen.
lemonfist
16/01/08 @ 16:58
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True, stylus all the way.
Der_tolle_Emil
16/01/08 @ 16:58
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To be honest I also always used the stylus to play Picross DS. Never had a problem except that I was always playing in bed and as with any game literally fell asleep over the DS. I don't know how many puzzles I failed because I was half asleep when making my last few decisions - so I either made really stupid mistakes or would be so tired that I totally missed the box with the stylus.

When I was awake though no problems at all.
toythatkills
16/01/08 @ 17:22
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No mention of Hudson's Nurikabe game? FAIL. It's the best in the series, yes, better than Slitherlink.

Anyway, stylus controls then. How do they work? They did my head in in PSv6IL because a double tap in a box didn't change it from a filled in box to an X. Is that changed here?

My purchase decision rests on this answer...
Feanor
16/01/08 @ 17:29
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Better than Halo.
TriodeBliss
16/01/08 @ 17:42
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Colour picross = sale.

Sounds like a much better proposition than Essential Sudoku - I struggled valiantly with its clunky interface just for the colour puzzles.

Ignatius_Cheese
16/01/08 @ 17:45
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As a kid, I used to buy Japanese magazines that had collections of both black & white and colour puzzles. Picross DS went some way to fill that void and this will finally help me rekindle that childhood love.

/beams from ear to ear
Rev. Stuart Campbell
16/01/08 @ 17:54
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Holy shit, I really do need this. I spent so much time with Picross DS and the color puzzles sound fantastic.

Are you aware that there's a UK release called Essential Sudoku, which in fact also contains 1000 colour Picross puzzles, without the need to wade through lots of Japanese menus?
Der_tolle_Emil
16/01/08 @ 18:50
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Are you aware that there's a UK release called Essential Sudoku, which in fact also contains 1000 colour Picross puzzles, without the need to wade through lots of Japanese menus?

I am. Definetly a good tip for ones who really don't get along with Japanese or don't want to order from Play-Asia.

However I like Japanese menus (it wouldn't be my first Japanese game, although the ones I have don't really rely at all on knowing the language, like Rythm Tengoku, Slitherlink, the two Ouendans, GBA Bit Generations etc.) and I've heard mixed things about Essential Sudoku. Also seeing the Bomberman items as puzzles makes me smile :)
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smelly
16/01/08 @ 18:56
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"See, the problem is, once completed it looks like you're playing a child's game. People on the bus will think you're a loony."


All games are childrens games.. grown ups playing games on a bus are by definition sad cases (such as myself)
smelly
16/01/08 @ 18:57
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>more casual friendly puzzler crap

Rather that than yet another casual friendly carbon copy fps game

(loving the way everyone thinks that just because they play mind numbing shooting games with red pixels in them - that makes them hardcore)
Rev. Stuart Campbell
16/01/08 @ 20:06
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Essential Sudoku's interface isn't as nice as Illust Logic's, but it's not terrible, and on the plus side of the balance it doesn't have Japanese menus to wade through - and the ones in IL are actually fairly nightmarish, despite that fool Walker's assertions to the contrary - and it's got a huge number of puzzles. If you want more UK companies to buy up Japanese puzzle games and bring them out in English, it might be an idea to support the publishers who do...
tardo
16/01/08 @ 21:31
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I've been enjoying Picross DS for the past month. Am finally on the last bonus levels of free mode (having only skipped the previous last 'hit' type game), so maybe will be looking for something else to play once it's completed. Although I'm still reluctant to buy these Japanese games in case they somehow do end up being released here. Please.
retrend
17/01/08 @ 07:04
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i have to say i couldnt really be bothered with picross DS, got bored pretty quickly
CivilD
17/01/08 @ 12:36
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I literally just finished Picross DS. Seriously. The last puzzle on the 11th board on free mode. Screw you EG, I thought I was done with Picross :(
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17/01/08 @ 13:23
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toythatkills +1 on the Nurikabe.

I couldn't say it's the best in the series as I haven't played them all, but I like it better than Slitherlink. And I really, really like Slitherlink.
Krelle
19/01/08 @ 02:56
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I bought this yesterday. Never played a single Picross game, but ive been eager to find out what its all about since the MarioPicross iterations. Now, I found this supposedly gem for only ¥2700.

Ive only had time to solve 3 puzzles yet, but I can already see the charm in it.
Becouse im a total newb when it comes to Picross, the absence of 5x5 grids made the learning curve somewhat steep for me, so I actually had to go read a faq about it to learn some basic ways of thinking.

Great review, thanks for letting me know this game existed
Krelle
19/01/08 @ 03:00
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@toythatkills
No, Im sorry. It seems like its not changed. There is only the on/off "tap" with stylus controls.

(Im not good enough at japanese yet to fully comprehend the menus, so there might be some setting that changes this. Just a heads up.)
PinkSpider
19/01/08 @ 14:49
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Just tested this out.

The menu's look a little more complicated than Slitherlinks but I managed to get into a puzzle.

Unfortunately I have never really got picross so am going to have to read this review/ some guides before playing. It all looks very nice though. And I erm got my background to look like a nice blue sky!

More of this kind of thing pls EG.
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PinkSpider
20/01/08 @ 20:29
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Okay, had another go and it clicked. Loving it so far, 5 puzzles in and tis fab. Will probably get the Picross DS game at some point but if it's half as big as slitherlink was then this could last years.
Fissionchips
31/01/08 @ 11:57
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I just bought this from Play Asia along with a nice new Crimson/Black DS Lite to replace the old one my boys have taken over. I also got some free Japanese sweets which was a nice touch. Anyway, for those stylus people this game works perfectly well with stylus, I guess just as the article says it has been so well planned that it is a pleasure to play with the buttons.

Totally, totally addictive - it's even prised me away from Puzzle Quest and a worthy replacement for the (unfinished) SlitherLink my two year old chewed up. The 10x10 grids are easy after a while but are good to warm up with, some of the 15x15s are quite fiendish and the colour ones - well, prepare for some lost hours!

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