Sony's Phil Harrison on PlayStation 3 Comments by Rob Fahey
"Everything in the demos was real-time."
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Actually he said the opposite
"Phil Harrison: Not all of that - in fact, none of it was real-time because it was all running off video" Now I know what you mean, but this sloppiness isn't helping your case. Besides which, interviewing the Sony guy, what do you expect him to say? "Yes, the stuff was rendered but it looks the way we expect the game to run, once the game has been coded and the hardware finalised" would be closer to the facts. |
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So it's been cleared up then:
Phil Harrison: Everything in the demos was real-time. Eurogamer: And what about the game footage clips? Phil Harrison: Not all of that - in fact, none of it was real-time because it was all running off video. If you make a presentation to two and a half thousand people, you're going to put some of it on video just to be on the safe side. I've been asked this question a lot. The way we put those videos together, everything was done to specification. Everything was done to PS3 spec. Virtually everything used in-game assets; some things were rendered. There. Cleared up, in what I just quoted there. Unless the guy is lying through his teeth, then it's all cleared up. At last. Finito. Move along. Nothing more to see here. :) |
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Well, I think Killzone 2 on the PS3 looks clearly better graphically than Gears of War on the Xbox 360, a game running on the Unreal 3 engine. But one is an animation and the other is a game well into devleopment.
@Kraftwurm: I can only speak for myself, but I don't love any games company, I own all 3 consoles and I have many more PS2 games than Xbox games, and I'm not sure which next-gen console(s) I will buy or when I will buy them. The last two games I finished were Devil May Cry 3 and Xenosaga 2, so anyone who thinks I'm pro-M$ and anti $ony (haha) is delusional.
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indotoonster
19/05/05 @ 15:20
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"One question on the lips of many people at the moment..."
EG, surely you should've asked him: "Will it lead us along the One True Path to the Zen of Gaming?" :-P |
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Carrybagma
19/05/05 @ 15:21
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EG: "Can you provide a straight answer to a straight question?"
PH: "It's really hard to say. It varies - depending." Ohhh I can smell it from here. New console; same old hype. He even borrowed the 'translucent skin' crap from Nvidia! What cheek! |
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Why did you have to end the interview there.
He had just started on the interesting stuff. All this discussion as to whether the demo's were really time whilst you were talking to a man obviously willing to talk abotu PSP/PS3 connectivity over the internet. Get the man back here now. The discussion regarding fanboyism was great for while but can we leave it now (fanboys can continue being fanboys if they want) and find out more about these consoles and their features. we'll see games soon enough and until they come out we won;t really know. |
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KnickKnack
19/05/05 @ 15:32
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Any Sony Fanboys actually read the article properly? Phil has just said that none of the stuff was real-time except for the tech demos (well, if the tech demos weren't running on the real tech, it wouldn't be a tech demo would it?) and rather ambigously stated that "some of it was rendered"
Well I'd like to wager a bet, and I'd love Eurogamer to take me up on this. I bet that both Killzone and MotorStorm look *NOWHERE* near as lovely looking as the rendered footage that was shown. I really can't wait to see everyones reactions when real-time footage of these games come out. ala PS2 Some people obviously don't live and learn, even respected game journos like eurogamer staff. |
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HenryMancini
19/05/05 @ 15:34
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By Christ, I can't believe your selective quotation, yet again. Despite everything we said... you're still at it!
Complaint this time? "Everything in the demos was real-time" on the home page, top and centre. In the article, "some things were rendered." Do you _really|_ think that's fair & balanced? Really? You don't expect every little fanboy to latch onto that and spend hours claiming that everything they saw "on ps3 was real!" when in fact, all they care about are the game demo's. Which weren't. Which were, in fact "rendered". www.joystiq.com is pretty good, I find. |
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"Feanor, what's your position on Nintyendo?"
Hehe, Just another company who want my money. My wife has a GBA SP, and will no doubt get a DS as soon as Nintendogs come out after seeing it at Nintendo's E3 press conference. I bought a black GC just to play RE 4 and it was worth every penny. I thought I hated the GC controller but it works great for RE 4, and REmake. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Japanese call their own currency "en" not "yen" like the West does, so NintENdo doesn't even need an extra letter.
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HenryMancini
19/05/05 @ 15:37
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"I wonder how it comes that the same people that seem to love
m$ and xbox do also realize that EG is the best games site on the planet. I mean: why are they here in the first place? " Because I USED to love EG. Thought it was great. It was my home page. Will still pop in to read Kristen's stuff, but much respect for the site overall down the pan, sadly. There ya go. Really, www.joystiq.com is _very_ good. |
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Derblington
19/05/05 @ 15:39
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For all the shit you've got of late (and I know I've put my 10p into it) that was an excellent article. Good job Shinji.
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tonynibbles
19/05/05 @ 15:49
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Oh. My. God.
"The terrain-rendering demo that was done by STI, which is the people who developed the Cell, doesn't use the graphics chip at all. That 3D landscape was generated in real-time from two input data sources and a software renderer running on the Cell created the final image. All that it does is output as a bitmap straight to the video hardware - it doesn't even create a single polygon, there's no concept of a polygon in that demo." Er, the implications of that are, unbelievable... CELL using processing power from idle CELL devices over networks to render game graphics? |
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stephenchan
19/05/05 @ 15:55
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HenryMancini, the thing about joystiq.com is that they are primarily a news site, they link to other people's articles and regurgiate press releases. Eurogamer is run by actual journalist with a modicum of self thought and expression. That is why I will continue to visit eurogamer long into the future. and anyway, Europe Rocks!!!! Never mind the Americans.
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Someone needs to grab J Allard and say - "Your games look crap, how representative of your hardware is this?" and "What do you think of Sony's showing, and their hardware claims".
Someone also needs to point out that Gotham renders are not big, or clever... Show us some number crunching at work. If the machine comes out in 6 months, and Gotham is a launch title, there has to be something worth seeing. Eurogamer - any word from MS on there being an X05 this year? It'd be a good opportunity for them to pick their metaphorical teeth up off the floor. Because it sounds like they're allowing Sony to own the entire show without even attempting to pull back some dignity. |
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If it's supposed to be so insanely powerful, then how come some games look comparatively despicable when put next to others? (I'm looking at you, Eyedentify. "startling detail" my ass)
I too think this is a load of PR bull. It's PS2 alllll over. I hope I'm wrong though. Oh, I really do. (edit: gotta learn to type)
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drumbaby: Well, in the case of DOA4, there's not much else you can do with that kind of rendered plastic barbiedoll style. The quality pretty much maxed out with DOA3, that's probably why you don't see much of a difference. I do agree with the point you're making though.
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" Shockingly you didnt ask him if Europe were going to get
shafted on launch price and dates in comparison to the rest of the world." No point in asking that... we already know the answer. Quite but my point is they could have asked him and put him on the spot. And that is why i refuse to get excite this time about the new playstation. As Europe will be waiting till xmas 2006 to get it and even then I doubt they will make enough.
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blueseagull
19/05/05 @ 16:26
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> Eurogamer: Phil Harrison, thank you very much for your
time. > Phil Harrison: Thank you. Eurogamer: No, thank you. Love to to the wife and kids, yeah? |
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