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Miyamoto and Sakurai on Nintendo Wii Interview

Wii Interview by Tom Bramwell

11 May, 2006

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Nintendo: How different is the experience of playing Twilight Princess on the Wii versus the GameCube?

Shigeru Miyamoto: In terms of the experience itself obviously the interface is different, so that opens up for a very different experience between the two games. I've actually already gotten used to the Wii controller for Zelda, and because of that I'm incapable of going back. We've already talked about the 16:9 widescreen, which is obviously another difference, and then again if you take the Wii version and played that on the three-by-four television, it's not going to strip down; it'll actually change, it'll cut off the edges of the screen, so that also offers a different experience as well.

Nintendo: With Smash Bros. be a launch title?

Masahiro Sakurai: It will not be a launch title. I've been told that I can say it will launch in 2007, so it will launch in 2007 and you can look forward to it then.

Nintendo: [At this point, the Funny People get involved again, offering the hilarious, "Does Samus have any special fart moves?" Nobody bothers to answer. Perhaps they'll stop.] What were some of the biggest challenges to overcome when developing the Wii hardware?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well of course for me, you know, working on the Zelda games I wanted to have an interface that's intuitive that uses the least amount of buttons you can have, but still functional, so really for us the biggest challenge was in terms of the controller. Determining how many buttons to have, where to position them - those types of decisions were very challenging.

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Nintendo: Could you describe the story for the new Metroid title?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Actually I'm not the producer on Metroid Prime: Corruption this time around. Mr [Kensuke] Tanabe, who has been the producer of the series since Metroid Prime, is handling all of the responsibilities on Metroid Prime: Corruption, so I actually don't know about it, but I think Bill [the translator] might know more than I do. To which I [Bill, the translator, surreally] say actually I don't know. I've played it a little bit but I don't know much about the story. [And now the PR compere gets in on the act, saying, "we'd like to rewind that to say it's a secret". What japes!]

Nintendo: What type of special moves will Solid Snake have [in Super Smash Bros. Brawl]?

Masahiro Sakurai: That's a good question. We thought a lot about what to do with Snake and his moves in Smash Bros. because Snake as you all know is the type of character who in most games is walking around with a gun. Whereas in Smash Bros. I didn't want to try and bring in the real weaponry like guns and rifles that people can get their hands on into the game, so that was a bit of a challenge.

But conversely I thought that if we could use things like rocket launchers and other explosives, that would be fitting for Snake, but also something we could use in a very comedic fashion in the game, and so we're looking at that - and who knows, maybe he'll end up just exclusively using explosives.

And he'll use a cardboard box. [Laughter]

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Nintendo: Given that the Wii is such a physical system in terms of body movement, how do you plan to make that appeal to casual players?

Shigeru Miyamoto: When creating games, one thing I often think about is how do people who are playing the game look to people who are watching them play, and so one thing with the Wii controller that I think would be very nice is that when you're actually playing the gameplay itself that who are playing will look like they're having fun, and that what they're doing is very entertaining, and so in that sense people who are watching them play would also want to pick up the controller and also play. So I'm thinking in terms of how I then take advantage of that in creating software that makes it look fun and enjoyable to play the games and not make something that makes people look uncomfortable.

So I think that people have an idea of what it looks like when you're playing videogames, and there's a stereotype that you're in a darkened room, and there's a young kid, and they're sitting in front of a TV gripping a controller, the light of the TV is kind of reflecting on the child's face, and it's kind of a negative image but it's a serious result of playing videogames and I think with the Wii controller we're trying to erase that image.

Nintendo: [This question was, and I'm not making this up, delivered to the PR man on the podium by paper aeroplane.] Why is Wii not an HD system, or why wasn't that the push?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well I think if you look at the technology that's out there and the companies that Nintendo has partnerships with when creating the system, obviously if we had decided to create an HD system we could have very easily. But if you think about what a videogame is, a videogame isn't just graphics. A videogame is a combination of the interface you use to interact with the game, a combination of the graphics, the sound, perhaps the network, and all these other elements that come together, and creating a brilliant videogame system isn't about just thinking of the abilities of each of these, and we thought at this time going in the HD direction was leaning too much to the graphics.

If you look at the penetration rate of HDTVs, it's really not that high yet. Of course I think five years down the road it would be pretty much a given that Nintendo would create an HD system, but right now the predominant television set in the world is a non-HD set, so rather than target a gaming system at a very specific TV set, we thought it would be better to create a system that allows you to interact with any TV set you have in your home in an entirely new, different way, and even kind of turn that into a toy for your TV that anyone can pick up, interact with and enjoy rather than only the people who have a very high-tech, specific kind of TV set.

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Nintendo: Is Mario a launch title?

Shigeru Miyamoto: It is progressing along quite well, but as some of you may have heard, it's often said that when I get involved with a project I upend the tea table, and that tends to delay things. So rather than promise everyone that it would be a launch title right now and then have them break that promise later, I'll just say no for now but say that if it's not a launch title on launch day then it'll definitely be there within the first six months.

Nintendo: Will the single-player of Super Smash Bros. be the same as it was on the GameCube?

Masahiro Sakurai: No, we're going to change it. I think we're going to try and make a single-player mode that people can enjoy a little bit more than perhaps they did on the GameCube.

Shigeru Miyamoto: This is actually something Mr Sakurai and I have had a difference of opinion on since the very first Smash Bros. game. Mr Sakurai always wanted to have a very deep single-player game, and on the N64 version I just said to him, you know, we've got plenty of very deep single-player games, why don't you hurry up and just focus on multiplayer and don't worry about the single-player. And Mr Sakurai said no, no, no, I want to have some kind of single-player in there so I just said well, make it really short so we can focus on multiplayer and get the game done. And we kind of did a little bit of that on the GameCube, but a bit more single-player than that. This time we're getting a lot of time to focus on Smash Bros., plenty of time to develop it, so people can expect a very robust single-player game.

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Nintendo: Did Nintendo approach Konami about Super Smash Bros. or was it the other way around?

Masahiro Sakurai: Actually, what really brought about the Snake character was from a conversation I was having back when I was developing the Smash Bros. game for GameCube when Hideo Kojima phoned me and practically begged me to put Snake in the game, saying please, put him in there, I want him in there!

But at that time we were already deep in development and I was thinking I wasn't able to get him in there and that we'd probably be making another Smash Bros. game afterward, so I kind of gave up on the idea and said it's too bad you hadn't brought this up earlier. And that was kind of the end of the story. But when this project came up, because Mr Kojima had contacted me, we reinitiated talks and managed to put Snake in this time.

It's not so much a corporate level discussion but really more on a personal level between myself and Mr Kojima, but obviously a lot of people have been interested in the introduction of other characters in the Smash Bros. games, and Sonic has been brought up many, many times. Part of it is you have to have someone you can trust to take care of your character and do your character good, so we're looking at various possibilities. There are probably possibilities for other third-party characters as well, and it may be that even now there are corporate discussions going on at a high level about what characters to include, but maybe we'll talk to you about that a little bit later.

Right now Snake is the only third-party character that has been confirmed for Super Smash Bros., but I think because we've announced Snake is in Super Smash Bros. that might open up opportunities for other third-party characters to also be included.

But more than anything it's not just about having a character, but about having a character that's going to be fun to have in there.

Nintendo: Who would be the character you'd most like to see in Super Smash Bros. in the future?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well if there was such a character I would just put them in this version. It's difficult finding the right balance. Everyone has their own opinions about what characters they'd like to see, so that's why I'll be trying to gather as much information as I can from people in terms of what direction to go in.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is due out on Nintendo Wii in 2007.

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petebritish
11/05/06 @ 07:06
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The only trouble with the big N is that they show all these games, but they always seem to be delayed for months on end. When they eventually come out the machine sales have suffered as people give up waiting. Moving on to something else instead. 2 years ago at E3 they showed Zelda for Cube said out 2004 still its not out.

Its no good having a launch of a machine when all good games are months away.

He says Mario within 1st 6mths of system launch, whos betting E3 2007 it still not out, but they have improved it and heres a new trailer, but we can't show much as people might copy.

In the meantime PS3 has had 3 crash games 3 ratchett games 3 daxter games and some new franchises.

Speed up the bloody games releases already!!!

I fear if they do not have good launch titles and the new wave takes too long then people will just move on to the PS3 or 360. People would rather have more choice than no choice.
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Rodigee
11/05/06 @ 07:07
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Bring back Mallow from Super Mario RPG as a SSB character.
Nikanoru
11/05/06 @ 07:07
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Well I think if you look at the technology that's out there and the companies that Nintendo has partnerships with when creating the system, obviously if we had decided to create an HD system we could have very easily.

'bout time they said it. Hope that'll shut people up who like to think Nintendo takes their primary focus off graphics because they somehow can't keep up. THE NEXT SEGA LOL AMIRITE
dk_rare
11/05/06 @ 08:00
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Let me be the first to say...

dude...

sweet.
Psi
11/05/06 @ 08:08
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480p aint a big deal, it's still 640x480 and will look great on plasmas with a decent scaler.

The only HD content is subscription based in the uk and just starting to roll out. I don't think anyone here in the office has a HD ready screen. Thats an office of IT Geeks that collect toys like that.

May be more of an issue over in the states where content is more availible. I've seen the xbox360 on hidef and it looks great no doubt. But by the looks of things the nintys gonna hit the shelves in the uk around £150 mark. Thats snes prices back in the day!

I for one welcome our new nintendo overlords.
Mr_Whacker
11/05/06 @ 08:16
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Indeed.

Its not as if Nintendo are the only delay monkeys in the games world. At least Nintendo stuff is good when it finally turns up. For me thats way better than having 3 crap games right now.
Kiigan
11/05/06 @ 08:17
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That was just... horrible. What a big waste of everyone's time!
Roamer
11/05/06 @ 08:19
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@ Petebritish:

I don't think that will be a big problem this time around. Why, you ask? Because of the Virtual Console of course :)
MaxiSleep
11/05/06 @ 08:34
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I see nothing here that even vaguely interests me.

I am sure I will probably end up buying a wii, - i have a gamecube along with everything else :) but I just despair of nintendo actually releasing something which plays to the audience I am in.

And I just DO NOT GET the mario fixation.

Ah well
gypsumfantastic
11/05/06 @ 08:35
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Dear Eurogamer.

Please get your web team to check their stock graphics. There is no console called 'Revolution'. I think you may be confused.
Rambaldi
11/05/06 @ 08:43
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Wow...it all looks very last gen:(
smelly
11/05/06 @ 08:46
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And I just DO NOT GET the mario fixation.

The mario fixation comes about because mario platformers tend to be the best in the genre. Even when they're not so good (sunshine) they're still better than most!

When a "proper" mario game comes along, you KNOW its going to be good!

(Well I've yet to be disapointed anyhow).
Tonka
11/05/06 @ 08:46
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Thank's for a nice article. Don't listen to the whiners.
Nikanoru
11/05/06 @ 08:58
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Wow, complaining?

Jesus fucking christ, some people need a therapist.
manic_mouse
11/05/06 @ 09:03
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"Well I think if you look at the technology that's out there and the companies that Nintendo has partnerships with when creating the system, obviously if we had decided to create an HD system we could have very easily.

'bout time they said it. Hope that'll shut people up who like to think Nintendo takes their primary focus off graphics because they somehow can't keep up. THE NEXT SEGA LOL AMIRITE"

Yes they COULD have made a HD system, and gone head to head with Sony and MS. But look how that's turned out for them. The decision to go in a different direction was as much forced on Nintendo as it was them "wanting to reinvent gaming". By trying to directly take on Sony, and then MS, they've seen dwindling console sales each generation. If the trend was to continue then Ninty would be in a heap of trouble, so they needed to try something different. Also bear in mind that Nintendo have a policy to always make a profit on console hardware, perhaps because they don't have as big pockets as Sony or MS, which would mean that had they decided to make a HD console it wouldn't have been as powerful as the PS3 or 360 because they both cost more to make than what they sell for.
Lost_in_Darkness
11/05/06 @ 09:41
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Nintendo have Billions of dollars in cash reserves. Sony are in heavy debt, everything they do is based on borrowing other peoples money. Very risky business for them, if PS3 falls flat; Sony is then unfortunately in very big trouble since it is also the only profitable part of any of their businesses.

And with the heavy losses that they will have to take on PS3 hardware sales, even with them charging ridiculously high prices for both SKU's; their hardware won't be making a profit for them for a VERY long time. So that leaves them with trying to make money off the software end, but with their hardware prices being so high, it's gonna be a long time before casuals (and where Sony's market and profits actually lie) even think about getting a PS3.
Sony will have to make as much use of their upcoming PS2 library as possible to keep the casuals who aren't able to afford a PS3 on their side else risk loosing them to MS and Nintendo, which has now become a distinct possibility due to the PS3's ridiculously high prices.
petebritish
11/05/06 @ 10:51
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@ Roamer

Hopefully you will be right on this. Lets hope the final price of the downloads is reasonable.

If it is then WOW Ninetendo doing loads of things right at a console launch. Whatever next Sven getting his tactics right in World Cup stranger things have happened
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14/05/06 @ 12:34
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I don't care about Snake. Where the hell is Super Macho Man?!?

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