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Jim Merrick gets connected Interview

DS Wii Interview by Ellie Gibson

9 November, 2005

Jim Merrick is a busy man. As Nintendo Europe's senior vice president of marketing, he's been rushed off his feet lately trying to ensure that we're all jolly excited about the forthcoming release of Mario Kart DS and the launch of Nintendo's Wi-Fi Connection service.

And he's done a very good job, at least as far as we're concerned. We're at the Nintendo Europe Summit in Frankfurt, where we've already had the chance to play Mario Kart against opponents in various locations all around the world, and we're very excited indeed. Even more excited than when we realised they were giving us actual frankfurters for tea.

Merrick's excited too, of course, but not about the frankfurters. No, it's all about the main focus of today's events, Wi-Fi Connection, as he explains when we get the chance to sit down and have a chat.

Getting connected

"We've been on the sidelines of online gaming for a long time - we just didn't see the right combination of value for the consumer and technology and gameplay," says Merrick.

"Now I think the time is right. We talked about the promise of Wi-Fi when we first introduced DS and now we can show you, with Mario Kart and with Tony Hawk, what Nintendo's vision of online gaming is."

'Jim Merrick gets connected' Screenshot 1

You'll be seeing this all over the place soon.

But knowing Nintendo, and knowing that the Revolution is on the way, we suspect this is just the beginning. So, for starters can we expect a massively multiplayer title one day?

That's not Nintendo's style, says Merrick, but adds: "It's certainly possible... It really depends on Mr Miyamoto and Mr Konno, and whether they see that vision."

He reaffirms that the Revolution will make use of Wi-Fi Connection, although it "has a lot of different requirements and capabilities."

These include the "virtual console", Merrick explains, which will allow you to download NES, SNES and N64 games and store them on your Revolution's 512MB of flash memory - which Merrick confirms is expandable. And, of course, you'll be able to play GameCube games straight off the disc - "You don't need an adaptor, the Revolution will digest either full size Revolution games or the smaller GameCube discs," Merrick says.

"It's actually one of the unique elements of the system - there's never been a slot-based disc drive that can handle two different formats. It's one of the neat pieces of technology nobody seems to pick up on."

But back to the virtual console. Merrick tells us that a number of third parties have already committed to providing their back catalogue for download, but he won't tell us their names.

"I think you can guess, though," he says. "The usual suspects."

Merrick continues: "Will it be every game we ever published on any system? Probably not."

We point out that this is probably a good thing since some of them were rubbish, frankly, and Merrick greets this with a chuckle. We point out that we only meant one or two of them, and they were third party ones, and that everything Nintendo has ever done has been completely brilliant actually, and that we're very grateful that he hasn't thrown us out.

Name your price

'Jim Merrick gets connected' Screenshot 2

Ahh, happy days! We just can't wait to see this again.

Moving swiftly on, we ask Merrick what the price point for retro games is likely to be. "I have no idea," he says. "What would you pay for your favourite game of the 16-bit era, say?"

We suggest that naughty retro pirates would say "Nothing," since the scamps can download many old games for free, in between supporting drugs and terrorism and porn of course...

"If you want to play on your PC, then sure, but they don't play as well there as they play on a console. And then in the middle of the night there's a knock on your door and the Nintendo police come and take you away," Merrick says. He's chuckling again, thankfully.

"Obviously, that segment of the market will always exist - there's always going to be some sort of piracy. But I think that for many mass market consumers, if it's easy and relatively low cost - 'Oh gosh, I remember that, I love the original Mario Bros, I grew up on that game, a couple of pounds and boy I can download that'" - that would be great."

A couple of pounds, eh? Nothing's been confirmed, says Merrick. He does reveal that Nintendo's online plans for Revolution don't stop at old days games, however.

"It is possible that you could download movies or demos of games that would expire in 30 days, or a game that you could share with another person... Using the digital rights management system, there are a lot of possibilities how we can control these things that we download, whatever they are - movies, music, demos, or full games."

Hmm. That sounds a bit familiar - don't tell us Nintendo's going for the whole "multimedia hub" thing too...

"No. When I talk about music and movies, I mean you might download a trailer for a game, or in-game music. But our business is interactive entertainment - we're not looking to be the home multimedia broadband portal, they can fight over that." We think we know who "they" are, even though he's not saying.

Speaking of which, when it comes to the question of Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD, Merrick's very clear as to which side Nintendo's on: "Neither. We're not getting involved with that argument at all." It's probably for the best.

Back to the Revolution, then. When asked whether we'll be able to get our hands on the console at E3 in May, Merrick repeats what he told us last time - "I would be very disappointed if I went to E3 and didn't play Revolution games, wouldn't you?" Yes, sir, and now you've said that twice we're going to be even more disappointed if it all goes wrong.

Merrick says he's not sure if we'll only get to play games using the freestyle controller, or if those which use the "nunchuk" or "classic" add-ons will also be on show. "It's really the developers' choice," he tells us.

Ah ha, but which developers? And when, oh when are they going to tell us about their games?

"We haven't announced specifically what will be shown when, but there are a lot of third parties working on games for Revolution. But they are third parties, so when they decide to show or when they decide to announce is their call."

It seems likely that Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima will be one of those third parties - the fact that he was bigging up the Revolution at the Tokyo Game Show would imply that he's doing a game for the console, surely...

"That would imply that, yes," says Merrick carefully.

"He had very favourable comments to say about the freestyle controller. I think in his comments he stopped short of saying what game he was working on, so again, as a third party it's his privilege to say what he's doing."

But he is doing a Revolution game? "To my knowledge, yes." Goody.

Launch time

'Jim Merrick gets connected' Screenshot 3

Just imagine, this could be sitting in your very own house one day.

Next we asked Merrick about Satoru Iwata's recent comments regarding a possible simultaneous launch for the Revolution. Here's the good news: "With DS, we were 14 weeks, which was the tightest Nintendo has ever been with a console launch and that was an achievement. But with Revolution, we expect to do better than that. That certainly is our goal.

"You know, simultaneous - what's 'simultaneous'? The same day, the same time?" Merrick goes on.

"That probably doesn't even make commercial sense. But within a few weeks of one another, sure."

And here's the even better news: Europe might not get left behind for once.

"We're very serious about trying to be a more global company and not follow the stereotypical formula of Japan first, then the US, then Europe some time later," Merrick says. So does that mean the Revolution could be the first console to launch in Europe first?

"Anything's possible. There are no rules that it must be Japan or US first." Hurrah!

Merrick says that Revolution is still "just a codename" for the console, and that there's "a lot of trademark checking and copyright issues" still to be sorted out. He says that various names are still being bandied about - and that no, Revolution 360 isn't one of them.

Our time is almost up, according to the kindly PR gentleman with the stripy scarf, so let's end with a tricky one. What does Merrick think of Epic Games' Mark Rein and his suggestion that games based around the freestyle controller will be "gimmicky", "cheap" and downright "crappy"?

Merrick appears to be unconcerned. "Mark has a very narrow section of the business. Epic builds middleware, they're very technically savvy guys, but he doesn't have a Revolution controller, he doesn't have a dev kit, he's talking about something he knows nothing about.

"So if he'd like to get a dev kit and really dig into it, then I'd be interested to hear what he has to say."

There you have it, Epic Games' Mark Rein - come and have a go if you think you're hard enough. And now there's just time for one more trip round Cheep Cheep Beach before it's off home to reflect on what we've learned, ponder the future of Nintendo and wonder why it's surprising that frankfurters taste exactly the same in Frankfurt as they do everywhere else in the world. Ah, life's great mysteries.

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Well, I'd buy it for Chrono Trigger.
Razzajazz
09/11/05 @ 11:42
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I like Jim Merrick. He seems a lot more grounded and sensible than Kaptain Krazy Kutaragi or Team XBox (Moore & J Allard). But even he is talking rubbish about the launch window! Europe first? Pfft.......
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Don't let him lie down!
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09/11/05 @ 11:50
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Mmh, very good interview. Frankfurters > Revolution, although the design of the console is quite sexy.

Let's see, how much would I be willing to pay for retro games... 1-2€ for NES games, 3-4€ for SNES titles and 5€ for N64 games. Fat chance for that to happen though...
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09/11/05 @ 11:51
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To expand on my earlier comment that got very quickly deleted.

No. to the bullshit that they've been waiting for the right technology, WiFi for consoles has been doable for years, and there's no reason they couldnt have done ethernet anyway.

No. to the not wanting to talk about what prices downloadable retro games will cost.

No. to the possibility of it launching first in Europe, and No. to it launching in under 14 weeks after Japan/USA.
Markusdragon
09/11/05 @ 11:55
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"The Nintendo police come and take you away"

o_O

If you see any mushroom-headed cops, run like hell.
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09/11/05 @ 11:55
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And here's the even better news: Europe might not get left behind for once.

"We're very serious about trying to be a more global company and not follow the stereotypical formula of Japan first, then the US, then Europe some time later," Merrick says. So does that mean the Revolution could be the first console to launch in Europe first?

"Anything's possible. There are no rules that it must be Japan or US first." Hurrah!


Europe launching first? First?! HAHAHAHAHA! No, stop it, you're killing me!

That is the biggest piece on non-commital PR bullshit I've heard in a long time.
Scurrminator
09/11/05 @ 11:55
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it's the best looking of the three consoles by far
Just need to see some damn games now.
sir_tripod
09/11/05 @ 11:57
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Earthbound FTW!!!!111!!1

(a.k.a. Mother in Japan)
StixxUK
09/11/05 @ 12:02
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I want to play on the Revolution more than I want to play on the Xbox 360 or PS3. But I'm skeptical - I'm afraid it'll be one gimmick after another for the first year, then in the bin.
paulf
09/11/05 @ 12:03
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I've got a feeling they may use a pay-per-play model where you get to dload and play games for a specific time for a small fee (say 50p for a day or something like that)
kangarootoo
09/11/05 @ 12:03
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@frod

"What a dull man"

Man, some poeple are just never happy.

"He seems quite expert in white lies"

Specifics?


@ave

Given your previous post was deleted, your new one didn't make a whole lot of sense. Are you saying you don't believe him, or that you disagree with him?
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09/11/05 @ 12:05
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In all fairness, £1-2 for a NES, £5 for a SNES and £10 for an N64 game seems fair. Therefore Nintendo will probably make it a NES game will be about £5 a SNES game £10 and N64 £20.

If you are genuinely good value, I'd probably go for:
Duck Hunt (why not?)
Super Mario Kart
Earthbound
Goldeneye (of course!)
Pilot Wings
Pilot Wings 64
Perfect Dark
Zelda OOT + MM

and some carefully selected GC games from manager's specials in a shop and get a good collection for a few quid.

Goldeneye will be especially interesting if you could aim with the DPD and move with the analogue stick on the nunchuck. d:-)
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09/11/05 @ 12:09
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I would have felt more comfortable if he'd just said "OMG PS3/X360 IS FOR KIDS LOL" at the end. He doesn't have to be so damned *reasonable* about it. ;-)
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09/11/05 @ 12:09
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Duck Hunt (why not?)
Why not indeed. Thank's to sir_tripod I just realised that it's possible.
Thank you sirah
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09/11/05 @ 12:11
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@kangaroo: No to his PR bullshit :)
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09/11/05 @ 12:13
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He's the PR guy! Bullshit is what he does! At least he's pretty nice about it.
sir_tripod
09/11/05 @ 12:24
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TBH, it's nice to have "personable bullshit". It's refreshing to not hear, "OMFG u n00b. leik ne1 wud wont 2 by teh piss3 or wuteva." The only downside his conversation is a touch mundane. Now, if you'd have interviewed the name-taking powerhouse that is Reggie, then you'd have yourself an interview. He's a bit more confrontational but he still stays within the boundaries of good manners and decency when he's bullshitting and "trash-talking" [shudder] the competition.
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09/11/05 @ 12:26
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Goody

Methinks so.
Artemus
09/11/05 @ 12:28
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Glad they're changing the name. Revolution is rubbish.
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09/11/05 @ 12:31
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I'll be very interested as to what their pricing model is...

£1-2 for a NES, £5 for a SNES and £10 for an N64 game

seems VERY high to me. I've got to say I wouldn't pay that price for any game on any of those platforms.
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09/11/05 @ 12:37
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If the Revolution name ain't definite, why not call it the N5000. Then in the eyes of morons, the '5000' would suggest it is more powerful than a PS3 and Xbox 360 COMBINED!!!

PHWOOAARRR!!!
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09/11/05 @ 12:40
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"It's going to be more than that "


thats what i love about interweb forums.. people who come in and state things as fact which they know f-all about.

There's no physical medium to deal with, so they dont have to pay the shop keeper a cut, and they dont have to pay manufacturing costs... so i'd say probably lower.. but who knows until its out?

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09/11/05 @ 12:40
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Prices will come down when downloads don't bring in enough cash.
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09/11/05 @ 12:41
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"bullshit that they've been waiting for the right technology, WiFi for consoles has been doable for years, and there's no reason they couldnt have done ethernet anyway. "


He means waiting for the technology to become easy enough for joe public to use, to get to a point where they can offer FREE wifi access in pubs/hotels/etc. And for enought people to get bband in the homes, etc etc.

Ethernet? Yeah right.. I can just see yer average joe setting that up...
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09/11/05 @ 12:58
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So you're going to be using the revolution in airports/libraries/pubs/hotels?

Ethernet is like any home equipment, a cable goes in a plug(Unless you think its hard for NTL to bring the cable in, bring it to where in the house I ask, connect the modem for me - and for me to simply plug one cable in the jack on the modem, and one into the xbox)

WiFi broadband CERTAINLY wont be easier to set up, at least not if you dont want your neighbours stealing it.
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09/11/05 @ 13:05
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"WiFi broadband CERTAINLY wont be easier to set up"

stick dongle in pc attached to broadband... done.

Oh.. hang on.. i see where you've gotten confused with the term ethernet now! Lol..

Besides we have no idea how easy the technology for finding other players online is.. etc etc .. my guess easier..
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09/11/05 @ 13:09
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ethernet doesnt necessarily mean PC, xbox uses ethernet port as does most routers and modems.

So now all revolution users need PC's to use the wifi? That's hardly simple either.
09/11/05 @ 13:11
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Just seeing that Super Mario Kart pic above tickles my nostalgic bone no end.

And no as a working professional, I just can't be arsed to fart about with emulators.
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tonynibbles
09/11/05 @ 13:44
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/sees Mario Kart pic

"Ding dit dut dit dut dit dut doo-dit-doo doo-dit-DIT... *poople poop poop poop* (whistle)
Dit-doo-doo-do-do-dit, doo-dit-doo-do-do-doo!" [etc] [etc]
Ryuken
09/11/05 @ 14:01
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" "So if he'd like to get a dev kit and really dig into it, then I'd be interested to hear what he has to say."

There you have it, Epic Games' Mark Rein - come and have a go if you think you're hard enough. "

Ahem, wasn't that the whole problem in the first place? That devs like Epic (and yes, they do more than tech alone, ya know, UT is like still one of the best mp games out there) didn't receive a dev kit or info from Nintendo at all? Who can blame Rein or other developers for making assumptions then? Especially when you see that TGS Revolution trailer; that was nearly all gimmick and typical Japanese 'entertaining' stuff.
Fixxxer
09/11/05 @ 14:07
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The Mario Kart theme is my ringtone. It's superb!
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09/11/05 @ 14:10
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^
Ryuken

so you dont like playing FPShooters?
abigsmurf
09/11/05 @ 14:38
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They charge "a couple of quid" for SNES games and I'm sold.

Ave : technically you don't need a PC to use wireless, you can just hook up a router to electricity and the DSL line. Almost all need a PC to configure though but I'd be suprised if nintendo didn't release some sort of router that can be configured via the revolution at somepoint ( I don't mean the dongle)
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09/11/05 @ 14:46
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I really think Nintendo are going to take the hardcore gamer merket away from sony+microsoft.. at least there not just making a GameCube2 they have noticed the games industry going stale with ideas so they have thrown a load of new ones into the market place.
Just look whats happening now with the DS, the DS with its free wifi internet gaming, makes me want to leave my PSP at home. Why play Burnout against the AI when I can play MarioKart against BillyBob in NewYork, while sat in/near any McDonalds/ hotel /uni !
Mark my words even before the Rev. (or whatever they name it) hits the streets Nintendo will have a major share of internet gamers.

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Xerx3s
09/11/05 @ 14:57
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When can we see some screenies? Just wondering....
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09/11/05 @ 15:25
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@ smelly,

"There's no physical medium to deal with, so they dont have to pay the shop keeper a cut, and they dont have to pay manufacturing costs... so i'd say probably lower.. but who knows until its out?"

No but they do have to pay for:
* development of the download technology
* development of a payment system
* server upkeep & maintenance
* people to run the service
* customer support
* bandwidth

not cheap all that
Ryuken
09/11/05 @ 15:32
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"so you dont like playing FPShooters? "

Like I said, that TGS trailer was gimmick for the most part and I don't see myself 'shooting' like they did it in that trailer no, and frankly, a so-called 'fps' franchise like Metroid Prime doesn't appeal to me at all. Wasn't Nintendo gonna broaden their audience with this console?
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09/11/05 @ 15:57
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If it gets more people on-line (and making it free and easy is a good start) then great.

I have never played online, but already have a large group of mates ready with DS's and MK on preorder, actually none of us have ever been on-line thinking about it, so I guess this could have a big impact.

.. and I'm a GRIL, so if I can work this (you know while doing my hair and stuff) I'm sure most will be able to!
Tonka
09/11/05 @ 16:12
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Wasn't Nintendo gonna broaden their audience with this console?

Yes, but I think they are aiming for non-gamers and not FPS gamers as their new audience.

Well, to turn non gamers into gamers that is. Not people who already are gamers, like people who play FPS games.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. FPS games. I play them ocasionally. I'm not good or anything (at FPS's) but I sometimes find them entertaining.
Moonprince
09/11/05 @ 16:58
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Good read. Thanks.
09/11/05 @ 17:11
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Seconded, good read - thank you!

Yes, thanks be to you!

Don't know about this bit though:

We suggest that naughty retro pirates would say "Nothing," since the scamps can download many old games for free, in between supporting drugs and terrorism and porn of course...

Sounds like a dangerous conflating of two issues to me. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other.


Moonprince
09/11/05 @ 17:55
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Must of been 9 months back or more, but there was a poster in the cinema I went into seriously suggesting a direct link between people pirating films and terrorism. I didnt stop to read how...
kangarootoo
09/11/05 @ 17:59
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Perhaps its related to the connection G W Bush was trying to make between terrorism and flooding on a massive scale in his speech to the people of New Orleans.

I didn't pay enough attention so I'm none the wiser as to what that connection is. More fool me eh?
Moonprince
09/11/05 @ 18:17
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Heh, after living since the days of Atari and before I've heard all this next Gen stuff all before, so take little note. But, I just realised Nintendo have sown a hook into me...

That red Rev. does look sexy but damn I want a white one too.

fs.
SuperGamerMatt
09/11/05 @ 19:23
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Everything he said I already knew about.
Moonprince
09/11/05 @ 19:25
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You rock.
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09/11/05 @ 20:23
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I'm sold.

Revolution for teh w1n!
malloc
09/11/05 @ 21:39
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At the risk of going against the tide, has he actually said anything of merit? At all? Seriously?

The whole things seemed a series of nods and winks, you-know, who-knows etc. When he came close to saying something conclusive, he then said that it would depend on what the guys back in Japan thought. Not really a bit surprise that N have practically zero EU presence.

I would like to see have more of a cop from him about Rein, just to force a reaction from Rein. Get a duel on, something, rather than some non-commital remarks that nobody is gonna care about.

Either way Jim Merrick must have one cushty job.
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Damn, Razzajazz took the words right out of my mouth!

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