50 Cent: Bulletproof

By Kristan Reed Published 24 November, 2005

We chat to the men behind Vivendi's hip-hop-flava'd blockbuster.

Hip-hop and gaming have been cosy bedfellows for years, and the release of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas just over a year ago proved how rich the pickings can be if you marry the two in the right way. With the world, his wife and probably his ho scrambling to cash in on the phenomenon, VU's decision to go all-out and deliver a brutal shooter based on one of the world's biggest rap stars could prove to be an inspired decision - commercially, at least.

Of course, we're not expecting the game itself to be the world's greatest. If we're honest, we fully expect it to be 'one for the fans' rather than something we should all rush out and buy. But that doesn't make it any less interesting. In fact, we wanted to know whether a 50 Cent game could ever be anything more than a cynical cash-in. So we asked some of the key men responsible for making it happen. Step forward producer Andre Emerson and the man behind the brand marketing, Antoine Molant...

Eurogamer: First of all, tell us why the world needs a 50 Cent game? What are the motivations behind the project, other than as a means to generate a lot of cash during the busy Christmas period?

Andre Emerson: 50's background, as well as the content in his lyrics and videos are a perfect match with an action game. Bringing gaming and hip hop together is a natural fit.

Antoine Molant: We are bringing more than a game to the market. Bulletproof is a real interactive mix of games, music and videos. This opens new areas for the entertainment industry as Universal music, Universal Pictures and VUG join forces. Bulletproof is a kind of pioneer for us.

'50 Cent: Bulletproof' Screenshot agent47

Agent 47 should know better than to dis Fiddy.

Eurogamer: Are you relying on the fact that the core audience for this game might not be the most discerning gamers? In other words are you essentially targeting music fans that will get off on the fact that they're playing a real-life gangster rapper, as opposed to gamers?

Andre Emerson: We expect Bulletproof to draw a diverse audience. From the very start, we focused on a making a great third-person shooter with lots of fun and brutal game mechanics. We're also offering five different skill levels so the game can appeal to first-time players as well are hardcore gamers.

Antoine Molant: It is more than just music; it is about lifestyle and culture. 50 is an iconic image regardless of the cultural differences. A game based on his world is naturally aimed at the widest audience possible, as its content matches everyone's expectations.

Eurogamer: How tough is it to make a 'mass market' game such as this appealing to a specific demographic? Do you have to deliberately dumb certain elements of the game down to make sure that it has a broader appeal?

Andre Emerson: I think Bulletproof will have a broad appeal due to its fun factor, scope and incredible value. In addition to the core gaming experience, we're offering over 160 songs, featuring 13 exclusives from 50. We have a 90-minute original score from Sha Money XL and sixteen 50 and G-Unit music videos. Our story was written by Terry Winter, an Emmy Award-winning writer from The Sopranos. Our cast includes G-Unit's Lloyd Banks, Tony Yayo, Young Buck and DJ Whoo Kid. We also have Eminem and Dr. Dre making their videogame debuts.

Antoine Molant: If you consider that 50's music has a broad appeal, and then his game has too. We have here a truly multimedia product and at all levels we are true to 50's world, with no concessions made.

'50 Cent: Bulletproof' Screenshot bulletproof

Unlike Fiddy, this man was clearly lacking in the bulletproof stakes.

Eurogamer: On a more positive note, there seems to have been a fair amount of effort put into making sure that 50 and the cast look as close to their real-life counterparts. How much say did the man himself have in this side of the game? Did he go as far as suggesting what the game should be like? What does 50 think about the game?

Andre Emerson: 50 and the entire cast did extensive voiceover and photo sessions to ensure we captured their personas. 50 stayed involved from beginning to end, providing input and direction on the look, story, sound and most every aspect of the experience. He's proud of the result and we're all looking forward to the audience's response.

Antoine Molant: The whole crew has been involved in creating the game. We never even questioned the level of involvement from 50. He was here from the start.

Eurogamer: Who came up with the idea in the first place? Did 50 fancy the idea of seeing himself in a game straight away, or was it a case of the various divisions of Universal getting together and realising what could be possible?

Andre Emerson: The idea originally came from Jimmy Iovine at Interscope and 50 himself. We have a great relationship through Universal and are pleased that we were chosen to bring Bulletproof to life.

Antoine Molant: Once again, given the multimedia content of this product, it was natural to partner with each division of Universal to bring Bulletproof to life.

Eurogamer: Is it true that 50 Cent was originally going to play CJ in GTA: San Andreas? Did this project basically put that idea to bed?

Andre Emerson: Not sure really. You'd have to ask 50.

Antoine Molant: Not sure either, but 50 anyway deserves to have his own game.

'50 Cent: Bulletproof' Screenshot guns

Guns. Not cool, apparently.

Eurogamer: Was there a temptation to make a sandbox-style free-roaming city-based driving/shooting game in the vein of GTA, or would that have been a little too ambitious?

Andre Emerson: Not really, actually. We expect Bulletproof to be a franchise and want to grow it carefully. We focused on tight controls and solid on-foot mechanics for this first instalment. Too many of the sandbox games out there have either questionable driving or on-foot gameplay or both. We want every mechanic in Bulletproof to have a smooth, intuitive feel.

Antoine Molant: The creation of this 50 game has also been monitored taking the market trends into account. Free-roaming style games usually lack identity and a proper scenario. The choice was made to emphasis these elements, and not to dilute 50's impact.

Eurogamer: Music, obviously, plays a massive part in the game. From what we've seen of it, there are several albums' worth of 50's material to unlock in the game, but in the main it's stuff that's already on the various albums out there. Did 50 record tracks specifically to go with the game, or was it just unreleased material he had knocking about? Tell us about those songs, and why he chose them for the game.

Andre Emerson: There are over 160 tracks in the game. Over 40 of these tracks are original score created by G-Unit President and Executive Producer, Sha Money XL. He wrote various pieces based on the location, enemies and type of action that happens in the game. The music changes dynamically as well depending on the intensity of the action. While the entire game is scored, at any time you can overwrite the score with your own custom playlist. 50 created 13 new tracks for the game, featuring originals and exclusive remixes of underground tracks. It's very cool to hear some of the more obscure material with a full production mix. There are also sixteen 50 and G-Unit music videos as well. We had to go to DVD9 format to fit all this material.

Antoine Molant: This is purely an artistic decision.

Eurogamer: In terms of the voice acting, you've roped in a whole load of famous rap artists to lend their vocal talents to the game. What was it like organising that, and were you happy with how they delivered their lines?

Andre Emerson: As I mentioned earlier, the script was written by Soprano's writer, Terry Winter. Terry also wrote the screenplay for 50's movie, Get Rich or Die Tryin'. I think this may be the first time that the same screenwriter has created original scripts for both the movie and videogame. All of the talent were highly professional and self-directing in many ways. The performances were great and very much capture the authenticity we were aiming for.

Antoine Molant: We are extremely happy with the way it has been done and couldn't have expected more dedicated artists for this. Combining all these vocal talents is a world premiere in a game.

'50 Cent: Bulletproof' Screenshot eyes

Wonder if he's got Eagle Eyes too.

Eurogamer: Can we expect more games featuring 50 Cent? What about other artists? Does this signify the beginning of a whole run of music-videogame collaborations?

Andre Emerson: I'd love to do Bulletproof II. We've got a great team and foundation built and we're ready to take it to an even higher level on next-gen systems. While you would think this may start a trend, I'm not sure how many artists are big enough to carry their own game. 50 is at the top of the rap game and a growing global success.

Antoine Molant: Bulletproof proves that music, videos and interactive environments can melt in order to create a truly new experience for the consumer. This could revolutionise the Entertainment industry.

Eurogamer: What are your expectations of the game commercially? Do you really see it as one of the potential big hits of the holiday season? Who will buy it?

Andre Emerson: I hope it's wildly successful. Whether you're a casual gamer, hip hop / 50 fan or hardcore player, there is something for everyone here.

Antoine Molant: This game is a triple-A title aimed to all types or target. We eagerly anticipate it will be a blockbuster.

Eurogamer: Having now finished work on the game, what would you identify as the areas it excels in? What game would you most closely associate with it? And which version is best?

Andre Emerson: The game excels in a number of ways. Considering that this is a new type of experience, a fusion of entertainment mediums, I'm proud of how seamless the overall experience is. From the actual game to creating music playlists to watching videos, all of it is at your fingertips and readily accessible. Targeting-wise, we looked to Halo for inspiration while the rest of game is more influenced by action movies rather than other games. PS2 and Xbox are near identical. I would recommend choosing based on your controller preference.

Antoine Molant: Bulletproof is honestly unique, there is no competition. This is just the most complete 50 cent experience you can have.

50 Cent: Bulletproof is released on November 25th on PS2 and Xbox via Vivendi Universal Games. A PSP version is due for release in Q1 2006.

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About Kristan Reed

Kristan is a former editor of Eurogamer, dad, Stone Roses bore and Norwich City supporter who sometimes mutters optimistically about Team Silent getting back together.

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Comments (163) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • ishigo #1 6 years ago

    Wow, its like one big bullshit press release!

    What I want to see one day:

    Eurogamer: First of all, tell us why the world needs a 50 Cent game? What are the motivations behind the project, other than as a means to generate a lot of cash during the busy Christmas period?

    PR Bloke: Nope, you've nailed it. Its all about the massive Christmas market. Easy pickings! We know there are loads of stupid 50 Cent fans out there that will buy any old shit.. I mean they buy his fucking music, right? ha ha! I'm getting a Ferrari with my slice of the profits, you know.


    Eurogamer: Who came up with the idea in the first place? Did 50 fancy the idea of seeing himself in a game straight away, or was it a case of the various divisions of Universal getting together and realising what could be possible?

    PR Asshat: 50 fancied the idea of making a huge amount of money by doing very little work, save going "Take that, bitch!" into a mic at the dev studio.

  • Spud_leg_wizz #2 6 years ago

    Fiddy got the game world on lock down, yo! Buck, buck! Innit.

  • Mike69_2004 #3 6 years ago

    u betta not be a window shopper or fiddy gonna pop you :|
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 14:36

  • Zuiyo #4 6 years ago

    Some say 50 cent is actually gay. Is this true?

  • djchump #5 6 years ago

    I don't understand why games-makers aren't allowed to make games that will make money... it is a business/industry after all :-/

  • tengu #6 6 years ago

    Didn't you feel interviewing someone about THIS game was a waste of your time at any point?

  • Sko #7 6 years ago

    Fiddy? :) Does this mean Sean Combs really wanted to be called 'P Difty'?

  • Carlo #8 6 years ago

    Guys... Seriously... I've heard this is actually a good game.

    Personally, i'm not interested (References to 'blue-sky' games) but you might want to hold on slagging this off until you see a review...

  • Freek #9 6 years ago

    OH no it's not your typical license some actors and music game like EA has made millions of, no no this is a "mulitmedia experience". 0_o

  • AHiFi #10 6 years ago

    Oh, Terry Winter. :) Good interview!

  • jack_klugman #11 6 years ago

    How is his armour maxed out in a screenshot where he's not wearing a shirt?

  • frod. #12 6 years ago

    How is his armour maxed out in a screenshot where he's not wearing a shirt?


    YES! Continuity rules

  • Zuiyo #13 6 years ago

    What about the NWA game? That'd be cool. With Eazy-E!

  • BillGaitas #14 6 years ago

    "I've realised games that feature black people on this site, always get looked down on"
    Have you ever heard of the inferiority complex? Or what about GTA san andreas?


    "If it was some rock group no one would be asking stupid questions in stupid interviews"

    I dont know that, but i hate the kiss games.

  • Freek #15 6 years ago

    His rock hard abs can stop bullits. Come on, everybody knows that, they're just starying true to the 50 cents experience! ;)

  • jack_klugman #16 6 years ago

    I've realised games that feature black people on this site, always get looked down on

    Games featuring cretins are treated with equal prejudice.

  • peterfll #17 6 years ago

    Personally myself I think they should have dumped the idea of having "50" as the lead character, and replaced him with Mutya from Sugababes. Most people would agree she's scary enough to probably frightening 'the street' out of 50 with a minute.

  • kangarootoo #18 6 years ago

    "Bulletproof is honestly unique, there is no competition. This is just the most complete 50 cent experience you can have."

    Awsome quote, given it is the only 50cent experience you can have in a gaming sense. Kind of like GW Bush saying that "our universities are producing the best educated american students in the world".

  • karlidog #19 6 years ago

    Qualified, I don't think it's anything to do with the skin colour of the characters - this looks like another derivative, 'gritty' me-too job, and a celebrity ego-fluffer along with it. People tend to be cynical about those.

    There's definitely an issue with ethnicity in games, just as there's an issue with gender, but the problem lies with the developers, publishers and money men - the only black lead characters in games are portrayed as violent criminals, and the only female leads tend to be oversexed, vacant tit-carriages. The latter's much less true of late, but sadly the former's everywhere. Outside of games with create-a-character options, can you imagine a fantasy RPG being released with a black lead character, for example? They never are, and they should be. Someone somewhere doesn't seem to think gamers will accept non-white characters in a starring role. If the only games devs and publishers release with black characters are generic action fodder, it's hardly fair to call the magazines biased for criticising those games.

  • kangarootoo #20 6 years ago

    @ishigo

    Wasn't the first question along the lines of what you are suggesting though?

    "Eurogamer: Are you relying on the fact that the core audience for this game might not be the most discerning gamers? In other words are you essentially targeting music fans that will get off on the fact that they're playing a real-life gangster rapper, as opposed to gamers?"

    That seems pretty pointed to me for an opening question. I mean, there is hard questioning and then there is just being rude. You can't arrange to interview someone and then just act like an ass. I'm sure EG are experienced enough about getting information our of interviewees without insulting them.

  • Eighthours #21 6 years ago

    This game is a triple-A title...

    My sides!!

  • kangarootoo #22 6 years ago

    Spot on karlidog.

  • ralphwolfenstein #23 6 years ago

    6.something on IGN

    ie 'unplayable'
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 14:57

  • Glitch #24 6 years ago

    /me bows to ishigo. You nailed it on the head with that post!

    As for Qualified's statement on black people in games, im sure the remarks would be the same if it was eminem!

  • jmctavish #25 6 years ago

    If this gets to no.1 we should all just give up.

    50 iz da best!!

  • BillGaitas #26 6 years ago

    I dont agree Karlidog

    "can you imagine a fantasy RPG being released with a black lead character, for example? They never are, and they should be. Someone somewhere doesn't seem to think gamers will accept non-white characters in a starring role"

    What about Diablo II, the cleric was black. And as for Rpg's the reason is that its historicaly wrong to put a black person as the king of england or whatever. In the medieval ages there werent many black people around in europe, if you know what I mean.

    Also, you have to consider that the gaming industry is about making money and the majority of the consumers are white, so its kind of natural they try to create caracters that the people who buy the game will easily indentify with.

    This has nothing to do with racism, its a business. Indian movies dont have white people, and thats the same thing with japanese movies, chinese and ....


    and SIN lead character was a Black guy
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 15:10

  • Tyronne #27 6 years ago

    A few years back there was a web site you could go visit,in which you could then enter a url and then once it had loaded deface it by using various weaponry.Now what does this have to do with anything?well if there was a something released in which this person was tied to a chair and you could do the same thing to him as the web page,I would buy it.However as it stands this is one situation in which I am not only glad to be old enough know very little about him aside from that he comes across as a cock of the highest order but old enough to be sad to realise that this bloke is considered a role model to a good many.

  • Hicksy #28 6 years ago

    Fiddy pence says: S'up yall, you go buy my game homies, cause it you don't I'll be round you house with a cap

  • jack_klugman #29 6 years ago

    Ahh, sweet video games; where the harsh world of gang land violence and it's associated morally reprehensible glorification of gun culture can be boiled down to "Kill Combo +250"

  • JohnnyWashnGo #30 6 years ago

    I heard a quote from Fiddy on da radio just the other day.

    The jist of what he was saying was that even though the game contains dipictions of graphic violence, allows the player to make use of illegal firearms and generally allow you to play a bunch of ganstas doing a bunch of gansta sh1t, that it was perfectly suitable for young johnny to recieve on christmas morning.

    In fact, he was also advising to disregard the age rating on the game as it would be fun for everyone to play.

    I suppose it is, and maybe always will be, about the bottom line. Say any shit to push your crap onto the public.

    The world of Fiddy sounds like plenty of fun, fast cars, firearms and lots of sex... jeez why do we glamourise this sh1t?

  • ClansOfIntrigue #31 6 years ago

    Were they reading from a script?

  • caligari #32 6 years ago

    You don't see many people from Norwich in video games...is that prejudice too?

    Also, I'm fairly tall...I feel outcast from the gaming world because there aren't enough tall gaming characters...except maybe Godzilla

  • bionutz #33 6 years ago

    <a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/assets/articles/a618 83/ss_preview_eyes.jpg>@ Freek His rock hard abs can stop bullits. Come on, everybody knows that, they're just starying true to the 50 cents experience! ;)</a>.
    Hahahaha :))).
    Seriously I've seen an interview with this guy (1/2 Dollar) in FHM and either he was in delirium tremens or he's got some serious social issues. I will not support him as a role model (or his life-story gam).

  • Dynamize #34 6 years ago

    I presume, this game being a life-story style thing, that it'll just involve hanging around street corners peddling crack. Then getting shot and being carted off to the ER.
    What's that you say, urban hero? Stopping an international conspiracy? Bringing down crime syndicates? Stopping corrupt law enforcement? Oh Fiddy! I had no idea you were so wonderful!

  • alexg #35 6 years ago

    EG's front page has 50 cent and the guy from True Crime both pointing a gun at me.

    Talk about perpetuating stereotypes...

    Stereotypes of games obviously...

  • Blerk #36 6 years ago

    I suspect the only thing that would get this game into my collection would be if 50 Cent himself held me at gunpoint until I bought it.

  • Carlo #37 6 years ago

    Blerk... What about a 9/10 review from EG?

  • tengu #38 6 years ago

    Only if they review the PS2 version Carlo :)

  • Rociel #39 6 years ago

    I love the fact that IGN have been fellating this game so much in the hype leading up to it. As soon as the game comes out, they give it a piss-poor review. If that's the opinion of a site that was looking forward to the game, imagine what it will be like to the rest of us.

  • Pike #40 6 years ago

    GOTY!!!!

  • Hog-lumps #41 6 years ago

    I bet this sells more copies than Shadow of the colossus though.............

  • Blerk #42 6 years ago

    Blerk... What about a 9/10 review from EG?

    Er... no.

  • jack_klugman #43 6 years ago

    I bet this sells more copies than Shadow of the colossus though...

    I feel it would be my God given duty to +25 Destruction every person who pushes the numer of sales of this game above that of Colossus.

  • ImGameCube #44 6 years ago

    You're about to witness the power...

  • Nikanoru #45 6 years ago

    Don't you love it how they keep ranting on about the fucking music in the game even when they're asked about gameplay elements?

    God I hate that whole cancerous fucking business. I hope all rappers become more violent and drug addicted every day so they'll shoot each other and die of overdoses.

    Yes, this whole interview was one big press release, despite Eurogamer's efforts.

  • Nillsens #46 6 years ago

    "I bet this sells more copies than Shadow of the colossus though............."

    You made me cry.

    "Antoine Molant: Bulletproof proves that music, videos and interactive environments can melt in order to create a truly new experience for the consumer. This could revolutionise the Entertainment industry."

    My eyes just fell out.

  • Hog-lumps #47 6 years ago

    I hope all rappers become more violent and drug addicted every day so they'll shoot each other and die of overdoses.

    I hope that was an Ironic statement? Otherwise its a pretty fucking stupid thing to say............

    You made me cry.

    Sorry man, it's just I find it frustating that original games like shadow of colossus consistantly get overlooked for formulaic games like this. I mean how many 'urban' games can we endure..........?

    Edit: maybe I'll be proved wrong and that SOTC sells well - I can but hope!!
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 16:43

  • Teeth #48 6 years ago

    This whole 50 Cent thing is just shitty nonsense. Love the antagonistic questions btw, good job.

  • Aretak #49 6 years ago

    Y'know, it'd have been great if this game had actually been fantastic. It'd be interesting to see if the "hardcore" gamers would be able to swallow their pride and admit how good a game based on a mainstream rapper is...

    Of course, it was never likely.

  • Teeth #50 6 years ago

    A game where you unlock music by 50 cent, and a good game, these things are mutually exclusive. Fact. Mathematically impossible.

    The garbage these two guys are speaking in this interview makes me want to puke!

  • ch0k0r #51 6 years ago

    I hate what games have turned into,

  • andrewwd #52 6 years ago

    This really represents the nasty, shameful face of videogaming. Please, this game should be starved of all publicity
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 16:58

  • davyuk #53 6 years ago

    If 50 was purely a videogame character, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing. It's just the fact he really exists, and this game is his own enflated ego fantasy of himself.

  • Hog-lumps #54 6 years ago

    If 50 was purely a videogame character, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing. It's just the fact he really exists

    That makes me wonder, has there ever been a good game that stars a real life person/personality?
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 17:05

  • rad5000 #55 6 years ago

    the irrational hatred games like this seem to attract really astonshes me. OK, so its for 50 cent fans, and its not aimed at the hardcore gamer. i'm not going to buy it and it does me no harm. haters.

  • Teeth #56 6 years ago

    It harms me by getting in my face, just like you are. I'll shoot you!

  • BillGaitas #57 6 years ago

    The title sould be.

    "50 cent. Lets educate children ... Gangsta style"

  • Scientist #58 6 years ago

    "i'm not going to buy it and it does me no harm."

    That's debatable. If it is symptomatic of the industry these days, we can expect less games for gamers and more interactive celebrity tie-ins.

  • BillGaitas #59 6 years ago

    "why even judge a game you have never played?"
    Im bored

  • Hog-lumps #60 6 years ago

    'does me no harm. haters'

    Well, its the 'me-too' games that are harming me by stifling creativity and 'dumbing to the masses'. Developers seem to be getting more risk adverse and more keen to play it safe with a 'games by numbers' aproach.

    Is this one of those games? I don't know til I play it but I wont hold my breath........

  • Lukus #61 6 years ago

    The irrational hatred is because in my opinion it's a pointless, self indulgent waste of time.

    I don't want to play as some talentless "poet" who's whole life style does nothing but glorify acting like a twat! In games I want to play as someone with something genuinley cool about them. Fictional characters are far more capable of inspiring enjoyment than this overrated dick!!

    Not only that, but taking someone who builds their whole reputation and image on breaking the law in one way or another and putting them in a game where said character can pretty much shoot and kill whoever he wants, is overtly ridiculous. It pretty much condones his (blatantly unacceptble) life style choices and opinions. That's just wrong.

    At least when fictional characters take similar actions in games it's not excusing any particular real life person of the same behaviour.
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 17:45

  • jack_klugman #62 6 years ago

    so why even judge a game you have never played?

    Cap 'im

  • BillGaitas #63 6 years ago

    I agree with the people who say that to perpetuate crimes with real life characters gives it a more dangerous meaning. Not that i care, im an anarchist.
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 17:47

  • Zuiyo #64 6 years ago

    "You don't see many people from Norwich in video games...is that prejudice too?"

    Knowing Me, Knowing You with Alan Partridge for the Sega Master System.

  • Hog-lumps #65 6 years ago

    ahaaa!

  • Zuiyo #66 6 years ago

    About ethnicity in games, Turok and the recent Gun which feature American Indian natives as lead characters. All Spawn videogames have a black man as main character, obviously because Spawn is black. And Shadow of Rome has black and afro-mediterranian characters as well. And there are thousands of games with Japanese lead characters and nobody says a word about anything.

    And one of the best selling, best quality games in history (San Andreas) features a black protagonist in a mainly black environment.

    So please... think before you write.

  • Lukus #67 6 years ago

    Correct me if I'm wrong "qualified", but has it not been stated many times over that he has been shot several times?

    Has it not also been widley publicised that gun trouble seems to follow him around:- For instance at the party after the premiere of his (appalling looking) film, was someone not shot dead????

    I refuse to believe that this man has not weilded a gun in real life.

    And besides, all the examples you listed were fictional. You simpleton.

  • jack_klugman #68 6 years ago

    he doesnt actually go around killing people in real life. so what makes what he does in the game diffrent from what james bond does?

    James Bond is not a real person. He is a fictious character in an explicitely fictious setting. Curtis Jackson is a real person, a person from a gangster background who openly endorses gun culture. His appearance as himself in a video game where he kills people with guns and promotes his music... is my point not clear enough here? In America and increasingly here this person is a very strong role model to people. His music sells in ridiculous quantities. He is a prominent, high-profile celebrity. He is in a game as himself killing a lot of people. With guns. Commiting crimes. It is fundementally irresponsible. This is distinctly fucked up.
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 17:58

  • Zuiyo #69 6 years ago

    Of course 50 cent has held a gun in real life. In record covers, for instance.

    According to writing about him, he used to sell drugs and intimidated a lot of drug sellers around his neighbourhood to expand his drug business. I assume he didn't do that waving with a Julio Iglesias CD in his hand.

    Maybe waving one of his own CDs?

    He he

  • Zuiyo #70 6 years ago

    I'm with Jack Klugman here.

  • BillGaitas #71 6 years ago

    hahahahahahah
    me too
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 17:59

  • Xerx3s #72 6 years ago

    Who...cares....about....this...twat....

    My granny could beat this wuss. Bet he plays with dolls.

    "Guys... Seriously... I've heard this is actually a good game."

    Its named after a wannabe who has a little money as name, there is no possible way that this could even be remotely interesting....even with divine intervention....

  • jack_klugman #73 6 years ago

    Who...cares....about....this...twat....

    A lot of people. People who spend money. Money which influences decisions within the music, film and games industry.

  • Lukus #74 6 years ago

    I'm with jack too!

    Word up my bitch/whore/homie etc (delete as appropriate)

    And word to your momma!

  • BillGaitas #75 6 years ago

    "50cent in the game is more of an alter ego than a real fictonal charecter"

    the problem is that when his fans alter ego's start to imitate 50 cent, its not gonna be preatty

  • jack_klugman #76 6 years ago

    the 50cent in the game is more of an alter ego than a real fictonal charecter. everyone knows 50cent doesnt do the sutff he doesn in the game.

    The lines are purposefully blurred. It is in the interests of Jackson's promoters that Curtis embodies the 50 Cent persona in reality. And his celebrity means that in the public eye he is 50 Cent before is his X individual.

  • Teeth #77 6 years ago

    I doubt playing a 50 cent game will turn people into drug dealers. Well, many people. Be realistic! Also you can't even get guns in England. The worst this game can do is get in your face, which it is doing, and poison decent gaming, which it is doing.

  • jack_klugman #78 6 years ago

    I'd quite like to see a Mr. T game.

    B. A. Baracus' Reluctant Flight Simulator 2005

  • jack_klugman #79 6 years ago

    The worst this game can do is get in your face, which it is doing, and poison decent gaming, which it is doing.

    But why is it even there to get in your face? Why is this entertainment?! It's fundementally morally-skewed nonsense raised to the level of gritty high entertainment. ACCEPTABLE entertainment.

  • Lukus #80 6 years ago

    He may live in a nice big house now but as pointed out by Zuiyo he has a shameful past of violence, drugs and gun crime.

    I don't think a person like this should be allowed a game which just glorifies his bad character and life style, whether that character is left in the past or not.

    Putting a real life face, with a reputation and history of this kind on a violent game and playing up to the whole gangsta bull shit in this way is far more irresponsible than doing it in a humouress, fictional (with regards to the characters you play with and interact) way like that of GTA for example.

  • jack_klugman #81 6 years ago

    Lukus, you're my hero for putting that far more succinctly than I could ever manage.

  • Lukus #82 6 years ago

    lol thanks buddy!

  • Kostabi #83 6 years ago

    Yet again EG captions save the day.
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 19:50

  • ClansOfIntrigue #84 6 years ago

    >> Developers seem to be getting more risk adverse and more keen to play it safe with a 'games by numbers' aproach.

    Those aren't developers you're looking at, those are publishers.

    As game budgets go up, so does risk aversion. No publisher wants to invest $20m unless they're pretty sure they're going to sell enough copies to recoup their costs - which means "tried & tested" and "cross-marketable" wins over "original and/or good".

  • Nikanoru #85 6 years ago

    I hope all rappers become more violent and drug addicted every day so they'll shoot each other and die of overdoses.

    I hope that was an Ironic statement? Otherwise its a pretty fucking stupid thing to say............

    Eh? No, I really mean it, why? I hope they all die. Every single last one of them. Hell, I hope some terrible contageous disease will sweep the globe that only affects people who appear on MTV, and kill them all. Hmm. *retreats to his laboratorium*

  • BillGaitas #86 6 years ago

    "I hope some terrible contageous disease will sweep the globe that only affects people who appear on MTV, and kill them all" LOL

    I know how you feel, but talking like that makes you sound a litle too much extreme

    Anyway this is becoming off topic
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/05 @ 20:38

  • Xerx3s #87 6 years ago

    I dont know whats more sad, the wannabe's going on tv and making some really dumb and low iq 'music' to entertain 15 year old screamer kiddies or the screamer kiddies that watch it and think that those idiots are cool.

  • Stickman #88 6 years ago

    Will this game allow me to make Fiddy suck white supremacist's cocks in the shower room at St Quentin, using R and L triggers to keep a steady rhythm, all the time mashing the X button to stop tears of shame streaming down my bulging cheeks, while I wait for the day when the cyanide pills drop into the acid following my brutal slaying of 7 rival gang members?

    Because that'd just be nasty.

  • Bitkari #89 6 years ago

    B. A. Baracus' Reluctant Flight Simulator 2005

    that deserves a lol, methinks :]

  • Talha #90 6 years ago

    Actually Qualified, we are dissing rappers in general. Tell me, what does 50 Cent stand for? Naked dancing girls, sex, bling, that sort of stuff, that's all. Today's rappers have only one thing on their mind, and in their videos all the time. On top of that, their music is SHIT and nothing but. You don't find any semblance of melody or music - it is just plain, pure crap. Oh yes there are quite a few good rap/hip hop artists, but scum like 50 Cent etc stands for nothing but shock value and showing off their cheapo taste in clothes, houses and cars.

    Tell me, why every rap(e) video has to feature a de-humanization of women, loads of jewellery, hideous expensive 'pimped' cars, guns, promises of violence, and vocals as if they are not coming out of the mouth but the other end (and lyrics to match)? They all suck, and suck big time. All rap records debut at No. 1 but I don't know ANYONE who owns one. And haven't there been actual deaths in rap/hip hop scene? Are you telling me that the whole business is not infested with the whole east coast/west coast rivalry? Tell me, sugar, do you find any of this bullshit in ANY other music genre? And tell me, don't all rappers in their record claim to be the richest/coolest/most dangerous? Aren't there daily news items where rappers are rounded off/locked up/charged/apprehended? Do you find rockers, or country singers, or pop stars behind bars that often? Case closed.

    Back in the heydays of Run DMC and DMX, etc, Rap meant something. Today, thanks to people like 50 Cent, it represents the bottom-sewer form of music. The reason Eminem is so successful is because some of his songs can actually be heard and are quite catchy - the same reason Outkast are so successful. It has nothing to do with being black or white, stupid.

    And in case you didn't notice, Saint 50 Cent's MENTOR is Eminem - have you ever heard a 50 Cent record or you just buy them (10 copies each) and hide them in the cupboard? Music has been polluted by this scum - I simply can't see the same happening to gaming.

    Again I am not a racist, and I am not 'white' as well. It is a bad thing that 99% of today's rap/hip hop artists are black - that does not make them any better or worse. I will take 'Jesus Walks' by Kanye West any day over this talentless pile of crap.
    Edited by 3 at 25/11/05 @ 05:18

  • Talha #91 6 years ago

    "some of the musics best producers mainly produce rap music, and play real instruements and even score movies such as rza."


    Actually it is not difficult to find good producers in ANY genre. And yes, that truly is Oscar worthy material, I bow in respect. My bad. (By the way, I did like 8 Mile, but that is an exception that proves the rule).


    "50cent has cheap taste in cloths and houses? lmao u serious, he has one of the most expensive houses in america. and his cloths cost more than your house. "

    Ha! As if money could buy you taste. Tell me you don't intend that as a joke! No? The above statement alone sums up the mindset of today's rappers, and proves me right. Yo, man! My house is bigger than yours/ My car is bigger than yours / My c**t is bigger than yours.... there is your new Christmas No.1 right there!

    And brother, I don't have a problem with Rap music as such, and I categorically said so. I have a problem with TODAY"S rap music. And yes, rockers are known for drug abuse - that is why I said 'that often'.

    " theres so many rap videos that don't have guns, drugs, violence, women... but you wouldnt know because your ignorant to rap. " Which tells me that MOST OF THEM DO. Thanks a lot.

    "rappers are involved with the law on a daily basis? name me 7 rappers been involved with the llaw in the last 7 days. " Are you familiar with the concepts of 'figures of speech', 'irony' or sarcasm? Thought not.

    And yes, I didn't realize that East Coast/West Coast was over in 1996 - Now its California and Miami or something. Are you kidding me? THAT particular bout may be over, but they keep coming up with new ones. Ever heard or seen Eminem's "Like Toy Soldier' - a great song but you wouldn't know.

    Yes I am ignorant about today's rap scene - because it disgusts me. I can't watch their videos for their nausea-inducing qualities. And most rap records do debut at No.1, but quickly fizzle out (MOST, I said) - it is their sheer number, and the easy money involved (no singing, dancing, decency, talent required) that makes it the top selling genre today. Alas, there is no 'Gangsta's Paradise' in today's Billboard 200 and you can't deny that.

    'All rappers are different'
    Yeah sure, only most of them look the same, act the same, wear the same, and sound the same - like a procession of particularly foul-mouthed donkeys.

    Anyway my taste for rap music comprises of the stuff aired on MTV, and I have no desire to dig further, thank you, since I know the stuff that ISN"T AIRED will be even fouler.

    Thanks for validating all my points.


    Edited by 3 at 25/11/05 @ 07:11

  • Baldanders #92 6 years ago

    Hasnt this gone way off topic?

    So while it is off topic ill add my 2 pence.

    Im a hip hop fan but im no 50c fan and i cant stand most the crap hip hop artist that i see on mtv & any other channel as thats most likely the hip hop that makes people beleive in all the sterotypes of a hip hop artist.

    What I find funny is the people who judge eveything hip hop on what they see on mtv & that goes for the hip hop fans who only watch the stuff on mtv & the people who just hate rap in general.

    So what if 50c has a video game!!!!

  • jack_klugman #93 6 years ago

    I quite like Eminem. But I wouldn't buy a game where you beat his wife for damage combos.

  • Talha #94 6 years ago

    @Baldanders : Glad to see you can't stand hip hop artists on MTV either, despite being a hip hop fan. As I clarified, I 'don't hate rap in general', and all my comments were LIMITED to 50C and his cronies on MTV. Well OK I got a bit judgmental about not wanting to dig deeper, but your comment just reinforces the points I made. Thanks

  • ch0k0r #95 6 years ago

    Okay open your minds real wide for this i have a great idea:
    lets get EA to make a sim game where you are a big money making CORP
    you have to find clebs and get them to join in a tv show like "I'm a cleb shot me out of this cannon" then you have con them into making a music cd about the tv show and making a computer game. Sell that to the public and get it to number one Plus get all the video card sponers, gamespy GOTY and your own mother to buy the crap you push out.

    Lets see anyone claim computer game don't inspire violence after that hits the shleves. I'd go fucking mad!!!11

    i put as much coke up my noise at EA's markting team anyday!

  • Eighthours #96 6 years ago

    Just musing for a second here, is there a reason why almost everyone in this comments thread who is against this game and the kind of image that 50 Cent represents, can type in proper sentences and spell/punctuate, whereas most people with the opposing view (who like commercial rap, think that 50 Cent is great, and are defending the image/lifestyle) can't?

    Hate to generalise here, but the contrast is obvious. And I don't know about you guys, but it tells me something.

  • jack_klugman #97 6 years ago

    cos fiddy from da street init

  • Talha #98 6 years ago

    @Eighthours: IF that is your tacit way of praising my comments' elegant eloquence, I am flattered...

    /blushes

    Seriously though, I noticed the same thing but thought better than to comment on it. You are still alive though, so...

  • Hog-lumps #99 6 years ago

    Eighthours, people in glass houses............

  • Zuiyo #100 6 years ago

    Are you suggesting 50 cent and his parafernalia is only for the uneducated masses and such are the nature of his supporters?

  • ClansOfIntrigue #101 6 years ago

    >> some of the musics best producers mainly produce rap music, and play real instruements and even score movies such as rza.

    But RZA is an exception rather than the rule, no? It amuses me when my little brother offers the fact that some rapper "writes his own lyrics" as if that makes them some kind of musical god... NO! Writing your own songs and/or playing your own instruments are the base line for qualifying as a musician at all!

    >> 50cent has cheap taste in cloths and houses? lmao u serious, he has one of the most expensive houses in america. and his cloths cost more than your house.

    There's nothing cheaper than feeling a need to tell the whole world how much money you have ;)

  • Talha #102 6 years ago

    @ClansOfIntrigue : I salute you. Actually in modern rap's four-word, four-letter dictionary, 'cheap' can only mean 'low in price'.

  • BillGaitas #103 6 years ago

    I dislike rap, I hate eminem and I would also be against a game were a death metal band members would be allowed to sacrifice people to satan on the altar of a church, hang priests in crosses, rape nuns in the vatican and...

    I just think mixing real life with games will influence stupid people and since theres a lot of stupid people in the world I consider it dangerous

  • Hog-lumps #104 6 years ago

    Why is everybody slagging off rap music/artists?

    Yes I agree there's is a ton of rubbish rap music (like 50c) in the charts where image is far greater than substance - however this is just pop music at the end of the day and most pop music is image and marketing driven! Duh!

    There are still plenty of progressive, original and creative hip-hop artists out there doing their ‘shit’, like Mr Lif, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Neptunes, Common, etc, etc.

    To say that all rap artists are ‘not real musicians’ is doing our whole musical history a great disservice. Hip hop has been one of the most innovative and creative musical genres of recent years………

  • ruckus #105 6 years ago

    I couldn't care about role models or any of the other stuff here - celebs in games is just plain wrong and wanting to 'play' as one should be cause for imprisonment.
    Original musics gone, next it will be always having to play as some dumb celeb and gaming monotany will be complete :(

    Plus - how could they NOT get the sandbox thing in GTA? Takeway that element and GTA would have died at version 1 imho.

  • MisterFalseName #106 6 years ago

    "Eurogamer: Can we expect more games featuring 50 Cent?"

    Come on Fiddy Kart!

  • Eighthours #107 6 years ago

    Eighthours, people in glass houses............

    Wow, 28 years on this Earth, and this is the first time anyone's ever insinuated that I can't spell or punctuate! You should win something! May I suggest an appointment with an optician?

  • Hog-lumps #108 6 years ago

    first time anyone's ever insinuated that I can't spell or punctuate! You should win something!

    Well actually, you're the one criticising the spelling and punctuation of everybody else. I thought it prudent to point out that your punctuation was not the not the best either - your spelling is spot on though, you must really be the teachers pet!

  • Talha #109 6 years ago

    "Wow, 28 years on this Earth, "

    Er... what planet were you on before that? If it is X3456 - VCX2, I wonder why we never crossed - I came from there precisely 28 years ago too!!

    PS: Who cares that much about punctuation while writing on forums? I don't.
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 12:03

  • Hog-lumps #110 6 years ago

    Who cares that much about punctuation while writing on forums

    Not me, but what I think eighthours insinuated earlier was; that people who listen to rap music can’t use the correct Queens English.

    I thought it was a bit of generalised statement and a bit unfair to people who like hip hop that’s all……...

  • Talha #111 6 years ago

    @Hog-lumps: Get your point, dude, no sweat!! ;-)

    I won't generalise either, but at least what eighthours said is true of THIS forum with one or two exceptions. Please read Qualified's posts, which contains this golden nugget: "50cent has cheap taste in cloths and houses? lmao u serious, he has one of the most expensive houses in america. and his cloths cost more than your house. "

  • Hog-lumps #112 6 years ago

    what eighthours said is true of THIS forum

    I still think that's a little unfair.

    We are probably all guilty of making English mistakes on these forums, if we start arguing one demographic is better than the other, then it starts to get a bit pedantic if you ask me!

  • CosmonautX #113 6 years ago

    "PS: Who cares that much about punctuation while writing on forums? I don't."

    Not enough to proof-read every post, but I do make the effort to use punctuation correctly in even the shortest reply. Some people seem to believe that spelling & punctuation don't matter at all, then get shitty when people misunderstand - or don't understand - what they're trying to say.

    Anyway, back on topic:

    This game really does look quite awful, and I'd echo the comments further up the thread about the dubious nature of the concept. Hopefully it will bomb, as that's likely to be the only thing that will convince publishers not to get involved in this kind of title again.

  • Zuiyo #114 6 years ago

    "that people who listen to rap music can’t use the correct Queens English"

    It's Ja Rule that's from Queens. Fiddy is from Southside (I think).

    Anyway, while 50 cent can be an objectable figure in hip hop, it does not represent its entirety. That is a dumb thing to say - sort of like saying since Freddie Prinze Jr. or Roland Emmerich suck, the art of acting and directing is to be buried and forgotten. It is not.

    And, on the other side, consider 50 cent's popularity, and his undeniable charisma and capability of getting people's attention. He creates controversy, strong reactions on everyone. And he is a money making machine, reaching out to grown ups and kids alike, males and females of all races. Now if you do this with other rappers or artists, you don't get the same result. This is fine - there needs to be pop music after all. But it does not need to be garbage. And 50 cent is probably the most influential black man in the world, so many feel he should be conveying more complex ideas through his music and persona and (obviously) his videogames, considering many youngsters will buy them. What we would rather watch is 50 cent talking to people about poverty, aids, education, racism, unemoployment, clash of cultures, rather than recycling the millionaire thug ghetto fantasies again and again.

    To end with this, here are some quotes from a investor conference for Reebok, recently bought by Adidas: two companies that, as most sports apparel makers today, start just now to understand that a hip hop artist endorsement make them sell as many or even more shoes than famous sports figures... that's something to think about.

    "At Reebok’s annual investor conference, division officials echoed Fireman, saying, ‘’These kids hang on every word” of Jay-Z because ‘’his influence on youth culture is tremendous and what he represented 2.5 years ago he still represents today, but even more so, because he’s evolved.” They said of 50 Cent, ‘’This guy is truly a marketing machine and will have a lot of momentum. We’re going to really capture and provide that momentum and be with 50.” They said, ‘’50 Cent is very large and his influence is incredible and he’s really captured a major movement and people are following him and going with him."

    For more unbiased hip hop information: www.daveyd.com

  • Eighthours #115 6 years ago

    Not me, but what I think eighthours insinuated earlier was; that people who listen to rap music can’t use the correct Queens English.

    Nope, that's the easy conclusion to draw (the same train of thought, in fact, as the "EG are racist" theory, which is similarly wrong) and it's not correct, as well as being pretty simplistic. It's very easy to overreact to a statement and immediately go OTT on the "racist" angle, as it neatly sidesteps the issue at hand.

    I'll try to clarify: It seems that the people on this forum who listen to commercial rap AND are defending this game AND are defending 50 Cent's lifestyle don't seem to be using the Queen's English as well as those with the other viewpoint.

    There is a broader argument that education and opportunity should be one of the things that someone with the influence of 50 Cent should be espousing, rather than drugs and guns.

    At the end of the day the guy can do what he wants, but he does affect impressionable people's aspirations, attitudes and lifestyles, and should be open to criticism when his actions have a potentially negative impact.

  • djchump #116 6 years ago

    BTW - anyone actually played the game yet?

  • Eighthours #117 6 years ago

    and there is no beef between miami and the westcoast

    Must be hell for Steakhouses.

  • Zuiyo #118 6 years ago

    LOL Eighthours

  • Hog-lumps #119 6 years ago

    It seems that the people on this forum who listen to commercial rap AND are defending this game AND are defending 50 Cent's lifestyle don't seem to be using the Queen's English as well as those with the other viewpoint.

    Eighthours, isn't that basically what I said? (i.e. people who listen to 50c’s music are less ‘eloquent’ than yourself - which is debatable)

    God this is getting to be a pedantic and pointless argument. I really don't understand why you are bringing racism into it either............

    (Edited for clarity)
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 14:25

  • Eighthours #120 6 years ago

    Eighthours, isn't that basically what I said?

    Let's have a look...

    what I think eighthours insinuated earlier was; that people who listen to rap music can’t use the correct Queens English.

    So no, nothing like it at all.
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 14:38

  • Hog-lumps #121 6 years ago

    It’s obvious the combined force of 50c and all his disciples could not match the shear brain power of yourself, Eighthours. You are the master of all correct English and we should all ask for your permission before we speak…………… I bow to you.

  • Eighthours #122 6 years ago

    I bow to you.

    Doesn't require a master of all correct English to work out the difference between the following, but since you're a sarky little bugger I'll just have to put it in black and white (no pun intended), so that you can see for yourself how much of an idiot you're being:

    "What I think eighthours insinuated earlier was; that people who listen to rap music can’t use the correct Queens English"

    And...

    "It seems that the people on this forum who listen to commercial rap AND are defending this game AND are defending 50 Cent's lifestyle don't seem to be using the Queen's English as well as those with the other viewpoint."

    As for Qualified:

    and I'm probably doing better than alot of you on this forum...

    Oh here we go.....

    my OWN house, no rent mortgage, 2 cars, and 3 jobs. and i strive for more so i can become rich like the 2 names mentioned above.

    THREE jobs? Bloody hell!

    By the way, many of us have houses. So what? It doesn't mean our arguments on this issue are necessarily any better. That's in the detail, not in how much money we may happen to earn, and the fact that you want to brag about such things is yet another indication of how screwed up your priorities are.



    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 14:48

  • Stickman #123 6 years ago

    "and I'm probably doing better than alot of you on this forum. my OWN house, no rent mortgage, 2 cars, and 3 jobs. and i strive for more so i can become rich like the 2 names mentioned above. "

    Oh boy, oh boy! I wish I was more like you. You're the best ever.

    Wind your neck back in.

    PS - the fact you're calling Talha racist is really quite funny!
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 15:03

  • Nikanoru #124 6 years ago

    what makes you think 50cent takes drugs? Nikanoru what makes you think that? you are very stupid, 50cent is health freak he doesnt even smoke cigs.

    Haha, I'm stupid because I don't know which rappers take drugs and which ones don't? I wasn't even talking about 50 cent in particular, just rappers in general, stupid. All rappers suck hairy man ass, period. Get the fuck out, you retard, and go post on the MTV forums or something, where all the preteens might care.

  • Hog-lumps #125 6 years ago

    Eighthours this is getting ridiculous now.

    My original post criticised you, for thinking you had the right to criticise other peoples English (when you, yourself start sentences with ‘And’ among other things).

    I know that my English is terrible too, that’s why I said ‘people in glass houses……….’ So please feel free to criticise back.

    Now this is all getting rather petty and immature, so shall we shake hands and agree to disagree? Thanks.

  • Eighthours #126 6 years ago

    everytime there is a 'black' game released hip hop always get mentioned as well.

    Well in this case, there is quite a good reason wouldn't you say?

    shall we shake hands and agree to disagree? Thanks.

    Yeah, sure. You've been sarky, I've been raaaargh, I'm fine with ending it! :)
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 15:32

  • Hog-lumps #127 6 years ago

    Yeah, sure. You've been sarky, I've been raaaargh, I'm fine with ending it! :)

    Cool. :)

    \gives eighthours manly hug.

  • Stickman #128 6 years ago

    GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!!!

  • BillGaitas #129 6 years ago

    kill them alllllllllllllllll

    lol

  • Talha #130 6 years ago

    @Qualified: I hate to inform you this, but you are a GONE CASE. In case you read my post, I like SOME EMINEM SONGS, not Eminem himself. I also mentioned my liking for Outkast and Kanye West. But i think you have a very short memory.

    'Toy Soldiers' is BETTER than any crap put out by 50 CEnt. The fact that you think it is a terrible song is a pleasant surprise, that;s the way it should be. Go listen to IN Da Club ad nauseum. You deserve that and nothing more.

    And lastly, LIKING EMINEM AND BEING DISGUSTED BY 50CENT - does that make ANYONE a racist? I will hold nothing here: you are a fucking moron for thinking that. You seem to have a one-track mind, like most of your (c)rap idols.

    I don't feel anger or furor over you - just pity. You are blindly in love with 50 Cent and you even refuse to acknowledge that Eminem was his mentor.

    'racism was brought up because certain people in here are knocking 50cent, but then praising eminem. when eminem is worse, racist songs, addicted to drugs, women beater, abusive to his own mother, and has had guns and used them before." - well what does 50 Cent sing about? Jesus and the saints?

    You sad, sorry, deranged soul. Just because I think some Eminem tunes are catchy makes me a racist. Listen, even if being labeled a racist justifies my hate of 50 Cent, so be it. I know that I am not a racist and it is you, idiot, who BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT ON THIS FORUM.

    'Don't talk on something you do not know"
    Beside being a complete grammatical nightmare, this sentence is also wrong - it is YOU who don't seem to know anything beyond 50 Cent. And I don't give a flying fuck if there is no east/west coast going on - honestly I don't have time for that.

    And then you find the time to brag about YOUR riches. When did wealth ever make a person better? Your frame of mind is DIABOLICAL. You get from worse to horrible every milisecond. I hope other posters are seeing your posts. Listen, fellow, I have only one house and a Company car - I am a street waif compared to your glittering majesty - but I like to think I have some COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY, and guess what: You can't buy that even if you sell your entire fleet.

    Never CALL ANYONE A RACIST AGAIN UNLESS YOU HAVE A FRIGGIN IDEA OF WHAT HE IS TRYING TO SAY. I love people of every shade and if anything, I love REAL African-origin people the most for their humility, diligence and politeness.

    This is probably my worst post ever on EG but you deserve every word of it, and them some.

    PS- Thanks Stickman for , er, STICKING UP for me.
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/05 @ 20:01

  • Trillion #131 6 years ago

    That must be the gayest screenshot I've ever seen (the last one)

  • CosmonautX #132 6 years ago

    50cent was raping and making albums before he met eminem

    Blimey...








    ;-)

  • Talha #133 6 years ago

    @Qualified: Well you just get funnier. Do you usually recycle all your stuff like that? Tell me 'Candyshop' is about Jesus. And if you don't like his commercial stuff, WHAT THE FUCK do you like about him so much?

    You sound like a fucking broken record. 'You don't like rap'/'50Cent and Eminem are the same'. I am BLOODY SICK OF THIS POINTLESS REPITITION. I DO like rap, and there is a LOT of difference between Eminem and 50 Cent, though I don't like either.

    I think you are 50 Cen't's publicist or something. Saint 50 has been 'raping' and 'making records' - as in 'videotaping his rapes', eh? Wow, DOES sound like him! As for which crap label he is on, I don't care - and don't pretend there is no link between Eminem and Dr Dre.

    Just read your previous posts and realize that they have been SAME except for new , disgusting lines of thought (I own three cars! 50 Cen'ts house is big, and so is his c**t! I am richer than most of you!!! Not liking 50 Cent is racism) and glorious contradictions. I wish you had the decency to hang your head in shame.

    Toy Soldiers is good, and was in the Euro top 10. You don;t like it , fine - I am honestly delighted. For someone who 'doesn't realy like 50 Cent', you are one big lover of him. I have nothing more to say to you, except try not showing up on a 50 Cent forum next time - won't make you look good.

  • jack_klugman #134 6 years ago

    50cent was raping

    Nuns?

  • ClansOfIntrigue #135 6 years ago

    Dear EGcomments,

    I think GIRLS ALOUD suck. Am I a sexist?

    Yours,
    A.S. Exist

  • Talha #136 6 years ago

    "why would 50cent have to rape, he has had some of the best looking women in the world. "
    "im not saying he is racist because he doesnt like 50cent, im saying it because he doesnt like 50cent because of his background but has no problem with eminem "

    Oh I don't believe I am back in your exalted company. You sound like a FUCKING. BROKEN. RECORD - oops, I told you that already but I guess you need to be told ten times for something to sink in. OK for the tenth time, I HATE 50CENT BECAUSE I HATE HIS SO-CALLED MUSIC, NOT BECAUSE WHO HE IS. SIMILARLY I LIKE SOME OF EMINEM'S SONGS BUT I DO NOT LIKE THE MAN HIMSELF.

    Is that so hard for you to understand? Or are you a rapper yourself, perhaps an understudy of 50Cent, trying to emulate the one-track mind of today's rappers? And WHY THE FUCK do you guys like to flaunt your PATHETIC cars, your PATHETIC houses, and your PATHETIC, Two-Cent sluts that you have a dozen of in every video? You did that by boasting about your cars and three cars (no doubt black off roaders with golden wheels, 20 billion lights on top, purple seats), and then you do the same for your SAINTS. Is wealth the main way you justify hip hop?

    If anything, you are coming across as the WORST AMBASSADOR POSSIBLE for your favorite form of music and hopefully thousands of readers who don't know what REAL hip hop is, have turned away from the genre in disgust. I wouldn't blame them either. Who has the desire to investigate a genre infested with arrogant men, flaunting their houses/cars/sluts, whose almost every video deserves a XX certification at least, who release porno tapes to go along with their albums, whose videos are filled with gyrating girls because there is no music to speak of?

    Your comments show such a low level of IQ that I can't believe I am still talking to you. Makes me look stupid as well. And let me say this: The fact that you are a fan of 50 Cent, coupled with your amazing capacity for lack of understanding, comprehension skills (relating to these comments), repitition and downright arrogance, looks to BE NO CO-INCIDENCE. Go decode that....
    Edited by 2 at 28/11/05 @ 06:01

  • jack_klugman #137 6 years ago

    I think GIRLS ALOUD suck. Am I a sexist?

    No, just wrong.

  • kangarootoo #138 6 years ago

    Quotes from Qualified.

    "now most of you people are talking about a game you have NEVER PLAYED. so why even judge a game you have never played?"

    "you people just don't understand, most people going to watch a 'hood movie' are gonna be from that type of enviroment so something could happen. 50cent didn't do it."

    "alot of you people are so ignorant"

  • Talha #139 6 years ago

    @kangarootoo: Thanks man, finally some support.

    @Qualified: Go and derive whatever meanings you fancy. I am not about to clarify myself further with YOU PEOPLE, YOU PEOPLE HEAR? And thanks for enlightening us to the fancy rides you own - I feel completely demolished.

  • tengu #140 6 years ago

    The Smurfs?

  • Talha #141 6 years ago

    Instead of asking Kangarootoo, let me answer this: "Today's rappers themselves and fans of rappers like 50 Cent'

    But I must praise you for one thing: while my tone of messages has blasted through the boundaries of acceptability, you remain polite and non-agressive - which makes me feel sorry for my earlier posts. But then you called me a racist... and that justifies everything!

  • Genji #142 6 years ago

    Pot to Kettle: You are black

    Kettle: OMG YOU RACIST PIG. HATE CRIME!

  • kangarootoo #143 6 years ago

    @Qualified

    I believe he was generalising about rappers, the same way you are generalising about the people on this forum.

    I don't really want to get caught in the middle of this, I honestly just found it slightly amusing to pull you up on your "you people" comments. Everyone is getting so angry that at this point I think "deliberate misunderstanding mode" has been engaged somewhat on both sides. There has been a fair bit of putting words into each others mouths along the way too, which I think is why things got so heated.

    Usually these things go full circle and people start to realise that they have quite a bit in common and are agreeing about most points of discussion. I think we are getting there slowly.

    I'm rather too late to contribute to the discussion properly, hence my slight dig at you with my "you people" post. I know your use of the term was clear, but I would suggest that Talha's use is also clear and that you are looking for a more sinister meaning in his words because both of you are in combat mode.

    I think you will find that after two steps back, you both agree on the more general issues here. That is how it has read to me anyway.

  • Talha #144 6 years ago

    @kangarootoo : At the risk of sounding like a whiner, I ask you to please read Qualified's last 10-12 comments and my rebuttals. For one, they make interesting reading. For another, they will prove to you that we are NOT about to agree on anything since that will involve me being termed a racist which I cannot tolerate. Also, might I mention that the question of race in this forum was introduced by Qualified himself.

    You will probably hate me after reading my comments, but try finding reason in Qualified's comments and I will give you a candy. Also, it is ME who is in combat mode and not him, to be fair.

  • kangarootoo #145 6 years ago

    OK, when I get the time I'll go through the history of this page. That will be for my own amusement though. Im not coming back on here and declaring a winner.

    And there is hardly anyone on this earth that I hate. There is a lot of people I don't like very much, but hate is reserved for the gifted few :)

    EDIT: To clarify, I'm not saying the discussion was without merit, or any high brow crap like that, I'm just thinking that perhaps the time has come to chill out and find some common ground. Thats rather patronising of me as well I realise, to walse in and go "come on everyone, lets just get along". So spologies for that.
    Edited by 1 at 28/11/05 @ 12:46

  • Talha #146 6 years ago

    @kangarootoot: Just go through them once and see what's what. I am not asking you to declare a winner (there are sadly no winners here) - just to clarify as to why I am in combat mode and why my weekend was positively ruined because of this.

  • kangarootoo #147 6 years ago

    @Qualified

    The fact people haven't told you they have played the game is no guarantee that this isn't the case. That is an assumption on your part. To assume that anyone who has played the game would see informing you of that fact as a requirement for taking part in this discussion is a bit rich.

    A small bit of advice, which of course you can take or leave. In one of your early posts you called two different people here stupid. As a general rule, as soon someone starts calling other posters names instead of debating fact, a lot of other posters will stop being interested in what they have to say whether they make valid points or not.

    With that in mind, there could be a fair group of people here who have played the game but had no interest in discussing that with you because of the way you began insulting people early into the discussion.

    Anyway, I don't mean to have a dig at you. I'm just saying what I see. I'm not saying you are a rapper, just that I thought it was reasonbly clear that was what Talha meant when he said "you people" (whether it was a correct assumption or not).

    EDIT: Also, some people such as Talha get upset when people accuse them of being racist. I would share his feelings if someone made the same accusation of me. Depending on how seriously you take something like racism, some people would brush off the accusation whereas others would actually be quite bothered that someone saw fit to accuse them of thinking that way. It may be "sad" or whatever to carry anything that is said here outside the pages and still be bothered by it, but no one is made of stone and I would suggest that Talha is the better person for finding such an insult hard to brush off. And if you give it some thought, I'm sure that you would hope him and others to feel that way.
    Edited by 1 at 28/11/05 @ 13:58

  • Stickman #148 6 years ago

    Qualified, the fact that you find it so laughable that anyone should be bothered about what gets said on a forum, does go some way towards explaining why you post like a penis.

    My advice to you, would be to get in your flash motor, tootle back to your massive crib and find yourself another forum to infect.

  • Talha #149 6 years ago

    @Kangarootoo & Stickman: Thanks buddies for understanding.

    @Qualified: Of course when some calls me a racist, it is bound to ruin my weekend.I hate it when I am accused of discriminating on the basis of race or sex. IMHO the only case where someone will NOT BE BOTHERED AT ALL being called a racist is when he actually is one, or when he simply doesn't care one way or another. But then I don't expect you to understand.

    And hey, I just re-read some of the GOOD posts in this thread and now I am convinced that you are advocating a former drug-dealer and confirmed gangster. Moreover, you are advocating a game where this person actually goes around living his former life, and as reward unlock his very real 'music'. Which just confirms that myself and other forum posters here are not the stupid ones.

    And next time you quote my name (or anyone else's), take five friggin seconds and bother to spell it correctly. Or else don't use names at all.
    Edited by 4 at 29/11/05 @ 07:45

  • Talha #150 6 years ago

    'Media got some of you'

    OK right, so everything media says about him is a lie. Whatever he 'sings' about in his 'songs' are lies. For the last time, it is not WHO HE IS, but WHAT HE STANDS FOR. Oh but these are complicated thoughts so I have got a few simple ones for you -



    What makes you SO sure that Eminem is an addict and your Saint is not? What makes you so sure he has never killed anyone? What makes you so sure that he is holding a gun in this game and NOT LOVING IT? Are you his.... nevermind. And your saint had the courage to suggest that this game should be used to teach lessons to young kids. Like anyone in their right mind would WANT to play this bag of shit. And yes, I HAD the misfortune to play the game and I am pleased to report that the only thing I hate more is 50 Cent himself. Satisfied?

  • Talha #151 6 years ago

    Ha! As usual you veered completely off track. So take things SO negatively that it is funny, and perhaps that is why I feel the need to keep coming back here, like an addict..

    You have a fair point about drugs and 50C's fitness. I am not a terribly educated person about these matters, but I sure have heard that it is possible to employ artificial means to achieve a fantastic body.

    I only asked about you being sure that he hasn't killed anyone because you had said '50C never killed anyone' about fifty billion times, when in fact people did not actually accuse him of killing anyone but glorifying a certain lifestyle - of course he is not alone in that.

    And yes, my question about him holding a gun was rhetorical - without any substance. So don't take that too seriously. But if you expect I will defend Eminem now as you have been mindlessly doing with 50C for the last three days, I am sorry to disappoint you. I am sadly, not in love with him. I told you that about a billion times too but you seem immune to straight answers.

  • Talha #152 6 years ago

    Hey, do you even READ the comments before pasting portions of your earlier answers as replies?

  • Baldanders #153 6 years ago

    You guys still going on. I think the "phrase lets agree to disagree" applies here as nothing new is coming out of this arguement. You guys have entertained me and I thank you for that but the subject matter has got boring and things are being repeated alot.

  • Talha #154 6 years ago

    @Badlanders: You are right mate about this getting boring. But at least I am not the one repeating things and at the very least, I am not responsible for this repitition. Glad to have provided good material for you though, the posts must look totally funny.

  • kangarootoo #155 6 years ago

    The first person to stop posting from now on wins! All previous points made are null and void, the winner is absolutely right on all counts and owns the loser as their pet from now on.

    ;)

  • Galvanizer #156 6 years ago

    All this comotion about a game about a nigga!?

    I'm black so that statement wasn't racist. ;-)

  • kangarootoo #157 6 years ago

    " its not a game, with a winner and loser."

    Man, you really don't get my humour at all. I guess that makes me wrong ;)

  • Razzajazz #158 6 years ago

    I've been reading through this forum highly entertained, it's without doubt one of EG's finest for a long time! I quite like some of 50's music, but my god, when we've got people like Qualified stating our case, we're in big trouble.

    I like 50's music for what it is. Well-manufactured, nice beats (but I admit, Candyshop was shit), ok rhymes. It's brilliant party music, but under no circumstances would I treat the man like a messiah! His message IS exactly the same as pretty much every other rapper, just sold better, with a more charismatic head figure. I DO think that most rap videos are painfully boring, where do they keep finding these beeatches anyway?

    Pretty much all hip-hop is manufactured nowadays, but the mistake people make is not realising it. I'm down with G-Unit, but I'd like to think I'm a bit more intellectually capable than following them blindly. I'd also like to think I'm a bit less shallow than needing America's most expensive house, stupidly-priced clothes and 'Bling' to make me feel like a real man.

    Anyway, as for the game, it's mindless fun, with some nice touches, but overall, it's pretty much as disappointing as everyone thought it would be.

    Peace bitches, I'm out! :)

  • Stickman #159 6 years ago

    "its not a game, with a winner and loser."

    Ha-ha! You lost, loser!

  • Talha #160 6 years ago

    I WIN! I WIN! I WIN!

    Razzajazz: Thanks Almighty for people like you. Proof that not all 50's fans are like Qualified. You nail it when you say that it is the same package with a more charismatic (I admit) figurehead. As for good videos, just see the one of 'Diamonds from Sierra Leone' - THAT is what rap/hip hop is meant to be. Out.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/05 @ 05:22

  • Talha #161 6 years ago

    Hey, I am not trying to tell YOU any-friggin-thing. The ones who understand plain English know what I mean. And how come you ignore to reply to really solid points in posts and stick on to a non-consequential part of EVERY comment? Why don't you comment on Razzajazz's post instead of taking cheap, half-witted potshots?
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/05 @ 11:24

  • Stickman #162 6 years ago

    Quick, quick! Everyone into the forum! Qualified's expanding on his sheer stupidity in there. It's really funny!

  • kangarootoo #163 6 years ago

    "lol@ you trying to tell someone like me what real hip hop is"

    Wow, thats quite an ego. I feel a "trust me I'm a Dr" moment hoving into view. What if Talha turned out to be JC001 or MC Ren? I mean, you don't know him and he doesn't know you, so wheeling out your hip hop credentials could all backfire.

    In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb here. Talha, I declare you to be Ming Xia and I claim by 5 shillings.