Hirai wants PS3 to beat PS2

By Ellie Gibson Published 21 July, 2008

Reckons sales could top 140 million.

Following the announcement that PlayStation 2 sales have now topped 140 million, King of Sony Kaz Hirai has said he's keen to see PS3 do even better.

"It's not fun for me replicating the PS2 numbers. I've seen that movie already," he told the Financial Times.

"I want to try to see if we can exceed the PS2 numbers after nine years, otherwise why are we in this business?"

As announced at E3 last week, it's taken PS2 nine years to hit the 140 million mark. PSone hasn't done too badly either, with 102 million consoles shifted since 1994.

It was also at E3 that Microsoft's Don Mattrick declared he'll do all he can to ensure Xbox 360 beats PS3. Contenders, ready!

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  • stevencole7 #1 4 years ago

    Just a few more years yet.....

  • SBfistfun #2 4 years ago

    And I want a 12 inch cock but it aint gonna happen

  • Dizzy #3 4 years ago

    Yea about 15.

  • kissthestick #4 4 years ago

    keep smoking that ookie ookie kaz :)

  • Eraysor #5 4 years ago

    riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge racerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • andijames #6 4 years ago

    God i see all you were kicked out of charm school then!

    The way things are going it may happen but it's not really important is it. Main thing is to keep the good flow of games coming and improve on what they already have.

  • alimokrane #7 4 years ago

    News of the Month! this has to be. This is just as ridiculous as MS claiming they will win this generation.

  • Garulon #8 4 years ago

    8m a year means it's going to take 18 years to sell that many, Kaz. Good luck with that!

  • ps3owner #9 4 years ago

    does anyone know when the next MS console is due? or will they stick with thei current one for the next 9 years (7 now) in order to compete with the PS3? or will they both release a new one within the next 4 years, and then Sony will carry on selling the PS3 (for no reason I can think off) and try to achieve 170 million with the PS4. Whereas MS will stop supporting everything done before and start from scratch again, third time lucky.

  • bad09 #10 4 years ago

    Well it's always possible. Sure the year of the Playstation hasn't exactly gone that great but the seem to be finding their feet a bit and it's less of a joke this year. Many problems with the console have been fixed this year (just B/C to go Sony) and some great exclusives like GT5p (still a demo!!!), MGS4, Siren this week, Haze....OK I was joking on the last one :)

    Still not quite there Sony and of course you actually do have competition this gen for both hardcore gamers and casual markets, but if Sony listen to the criticism aimed at them and do something about it they might sell as many as PS1/2. Those two you HAD to own if you cared about games and so far PS3 hasn't got that HAVE to own status IMHO

    My advice to him is look at what games made those consoles so great and must own consoles (especially PS1) and start to release some truly must have games on PS3. LBP, Killzone, R2, MS2 won't do it......

  • gingerlink #11 4 years ago

    and Nintendo are still unhappy, despite the fact the wii's now sold more than the gamecube...

    That being said, I reckon PR people sshould shut up sometimes, giving figures like this when the ps3 is laggging behind (at least the wii) so much just makes them look bad. The PS3 isn't selling as well as the PS3 was, the cheap blu-ray player isn't as much of a draw as the cheap dvd-player was. The shovelware is all going to the wii, so the game sections for PS3 are smaller in stores and it gets less exposure.

    Quite simply, compare last time to this time and I say cut their losses and preach the kind of things that could possibly happen..

  • bitesize #12 4 years ago

    This is PR. For the shareholders.

    erm, you do know what PR stands for, right?

  • bad09 #13 4 years ago

    @ blig_merk

    IMHO those games don't have what it takes to make PS3 must have. Just my opinion.....

  • Luvbeers #14 4 years ago

    The PS3 will never see 140 mil. Everyone will be wanking to 3D holographic projections of Tomb Raider XXIII before that happens.

  • penhalion #15 4 years ago

    Is this a competition for the most obvious business wish ever?

    Of course Sony want the PS3 to beat the PS2 in sales. Heck Microsoft and Nintendo also want their consoles to beat the PS2 in sales. If I had a console I would hardly go to the bank for money and promise NOT to try to beat the PS2 in sales now would I.

  • bad09 #16 4 years ago

    @ blig_merk

    Look I'm not gonna get into which game is good or not row. All I'm saying IMO is that sequels to mediocre games such as MS, KZ, RFOM won't shift consoles. LBP seems very niche right now. Of course I've yet to play it and will reserve judgment but I am in the "I don't get it" group on that one.

    For me PS3 is concentrating on it's older brothers later life. Buzz, Singstar, Killzone GoW all late PS2. Personally I think they should be looking further back for inspiration this gen to make PS3 a must have console.

  • miiiguel #17 4 years ago

    Next year ! Afrika, Lair, and all those killer games. Just wait and see (a bit of faith might come handy too).
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 11:12

  • bad09 #18 4 years ago

    @ blig_merk

    Well IMO does actually mean "in my opinion" so yes you are right As I said I'm not getting into a good game/bad game row I except people are different. List all the score and reviews and sale figures you want but FOR ME these franchises do absolutely nothing, and I'm not alone.

    I'm merely stating these franchises are not enough to make PS3 must have and sales figures prove I've got just a little bit of a point.......

  • FladgeMangle #19 4 years ago

    I remember people saying the same thing about the PS2 when it was first launched. Over-priced, hard to program for, competition better designed by comparison (Dreamcast). Plus the PS2 sales after it's first couple of years were about the same as the PS3's are now.

    Having said that, I almost agree with you farticusmaximus. The main difference being that I have a PS3 and I like having a PS3.

    140 million unit sold in 10 years? It's not impossible by any means, even likely in my opinion.

  • Rich72 #20 4 years ago

    are you apologie's replacement blig_merk?

  • stepneg #21 4 years ago

    PS2 had the benefit of also being a DVD player which helped to shift it as everyone wanted one to replace VHS, with PS3 you have Blu-Ray which no one gives a shit about. Not to mention the PS3 is still over priced and has no real system sellers, I want to get one but I can't justify the outlay to just play Uncharted and watch one or two Blu-Rays. I can't see the PS3 still being manufactured in 9 years time let alone surpassing the PS2.

  • ParanoidZombie #22 4 years ago

    I wish sony could just give up on that 10 year lifespan PR nonsense. At first, it was a funny joke, but now it's becoming embarrassing.

  • Rich72 #23 4 years ago

    no i just think that the ps3 is an incredibly hard machine to defend with any conviction.

  • miiiguel #24 4 years ago

    1. Wii is not the Gamecube.
    2. Xbox 180 came out when PS2 had already 40 million units on the market.
    3. Microsoft is not Sega.
    4. Just MGS as an "IP established" exclusive.
    5. Blu-Ray is not the DVD.
    6. PS3 didn't bring 4D gaming (no shit?) as PS2 brought 3D gaming.
    ...
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 12:03

  • Rich72 #25 4 years ago

    not at all. had a ps1, ps2, gamecube, wii, xbox & 360. now whittled down to 360 and will get a ps3 when it proves itself. played a friends MGS and while it is not technically anything special, the art direction is superb. GT is a tired racing game and although LBP looks incredible it is not my cup of tea.

    i am in no way anti Sony but because you are defending the indefensible, that makes me a fan boy?

  • miiiguel #26 4 years ago

    er... same here, I had at least 2 PS2's (I kinda recall of buying more though). In some circles there's some weird (desire?) of segregation.
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 12:13

  • ParanoidZombie #27 4 years ago

    @blig_merk: ok, so the fact that my grand grand father is 94 years old probably means I'm gonna live that long too?

    Hint: No, it doesn't.

  • Yaster #28 4 years ago

    I wish Sony the best of luck in meeting this target

  • Cloudane #29 4 years ago

    A more realistic target would be 50% of the total PS2 figures.

  • theindustrialone #30 4 years ago

    Anyone want to play a game of "spot who works for Sony"?

  • ParanoidZombie #31 4 years ago

    @blig_merk: i didn't try to give some reasons simply because the whole thing is a joke: the fact that NES and SNES both had a very long lifespan didn't help N64 and gamecube. And the fact that N64 and gamecube had a very short lifespan doesn't mean the Wii won't last 10 years. So the fact that ps1 and ps2 were very successfu and had a long lifespan l doesn't mean that the ps3 will.

    Happy now, or will you "utterly fail to grasp the most simple of things"?
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 12:55

  • Rash' #32 4 years ago

    blig_merk, It is futile trying to reason with posters on this site regarding an issue with Sony. Most of what you say I agree with (except the "Halo 3 is shit" remark) but convincing these guys with logic is like banging your head against a wall. I sympathise.

  • mkreku #33 4 years ago

    Since Blu Ray is the only HD choice for movie viewers now, I can see the PS3 getting more sales as the HD era gets its grip on people. Same when the PS3 gets those inevitable price cuts.. It will sell well, it is only a matter of time. I also believe Sony when they claim it will outsell the Xbox 360. But 140 million? That sounds like an awful lot of consoles and might be aiming a bit too high.

  • ParanoidZombie #34 4 years ago

    blig_merk wrote: "Do you realistically think Nintendo actually planned short lifecycles into the N64 or Gamecube from the start? What san company expects their product to be an utter flop? "

    Come on, I didn't say that and you know it, you nigwit.
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 13:11

  • SpeedyThing #35 4 years ago

    "However, you are berating sony for having that aspiration, and that is what I am criticising you for"

    Yeah - there's far better things to berate Sony for! :)

  • FladgeMangle #36 4 years ago

    Blimey, there's a lot of anger seeping out of the anti-Sony camp.

    What you so cross about blokes?

  • the_dudefather #37 4 years ago

    @FladgeMangle

    Sony killed my parents, so I had to become a internet vigilante against them, much like Batman

  • DrDamn #38 4 years ago

    This is a completely different market to the one the PS2 launched into. PS2 had very little serious competition. This time it has two very strong competitors.

    I think the 360 and PS3 both need something to take them to the next level and I don't think a price cut or any of the games either have shown are that something. I think this is probably a good thing and will make for a better next round. Sony have made mistakes with console design the last two times, but this time they have paid a price because of the strength of the competition - that should be the impetus to do better next time.

    I've got all three consoles and I'm happy that each of them provides me with something worthwhile. If I could only have one it would be the 360 though.

    Having said that if it wasn't Hirai's goal to better the PS2 numbers then he shouldn't be in the job should he? It would be more news worthy if he accepted he wasn't.

  • eepic #39 4 years ago

    hah yeah right maybe they'll reach 140 million if they start selling them for 1 dollar a piece, to poor blacks in africa. cos anyone in the developed world who wants a ps3 already has one.

    not even mgs4 managed to drive up ps3 sales even tho it had a "multicultural" cast and was designed to appeal to "everyone"... so i spell doom for sony
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 14:07

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #40 4 years ago

    Yes.

  • MilkYMoO #41 4 years ago

    The madness of blig_merk has arrived to eurogamer.net. Yes!, I'm a big fan. Fly the flag for sony.

  • Rash' #42 4 years ago

    "Put bluntly, it cant."

    Are you trying to pass off assumption as fact?
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 15:07

  • Rash' #43 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus, I'm trying to tell you that as you can't name me a single MMO coming to 360 in the immediate future, PS3 can provide you "with an enhanced gaming experience".

  • Rash' #44 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus, A last gen FF game. Are you kidding me?

  • FladgeMangle #45 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus - You're a nutter. Calm down before you pull a muscle.

    It's clear you have issues and reality management clearly being one of them. Pointlessly spewing forth sweeping and wildly inaccurate statements about something doesn't make them true.

    Here's a fact for you: The PS3 is a great games machine. It's also a great media hub and HD movie player and that's why it costs a bit more. Some of us don't mind paying a bit extra to get all the features it offers.

    Why is criticising the PS3 and the people who like it so important to you? Go away and play with your 360 or have a wank or something. Anything you like, just calm down.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #46 4 years ago

    You have to ask yourself why would someone like me have a thing against Sony and it's latest console?

    There's no fanboyism about it. I'm 33, a family man, a gadget buff and a film/game/music enthusiast. I've also owned just about every console and computer since the start of the industry including most Playstation consoles...except an Xbox. ;)

    I was completely ambivalent about Sony when the PS1 came out. It was a better system than the Saturn even though a prefered Sega's own titles.

    When the DC came out it was an awesome games system. This is when things started to go wrong. Sony started bullshitting like you wouldn't believe about what their system could do. People fell for it. Either that or the wanted a DVD player! When the console was released it was utter lies and the PS2 was no better at games than the DC. The DC, a great games machine, died. It died, not like the Saturn, against a superior games machine but against Sony lies and DVD!

    So what happens this time around? Sony start the bullshit all over again! And I see the same people who fell for it are falling for it again OR buying a cheap Blu-Ray player this time. FFS, that is not the gaming industry that has supplied my hobby since I was 5! No one before or since lied about their machines the way Sony do and no one used the allure of a subsidised film player to inflate the numbers of games consoles sold.

    Honestly the parallels between the DC/PS2 & 360/PS3 are startling. 1 Console with great games and no next gen disc format being released early. 1 console being haled as a supercomputer with next gen films undercutting the stand-alone players.

    I'm not saying that people don't have valid reasons to buy either of the 3 consoles but in my experience the reasons I hear for people buying the PS3 make my blood boil... (as a gamer.)

    Yet another friend said to me at a party last night that he'd bought a PS3. When I called him a cunt =] and said the Xbox was cheaper with more games he simply said "I don't give a fuck about games...I wanted a blu-ray player and the PS3 was the cheapest one"

    THAT says it all.
    Edited by 2 at 21/07/08 @ 15:42

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #47 4 years ago

    TL;DR It's not the PS3 that's the problem (I like some of the games), it's Sony's lies and the reasons my mates buy them.

  • ps3owner #48 4 years ago

    FarticusMaximus

    farticus

    One who farts in a spartan manner. One who farts frequently and shows a cavalier attitude about it. A coneseur of rectal wind.
    after ripping a huge fart, Simon exclaimed " I AM FARTICUS"

    maximus

    A product used for penis enlargement.

    source

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #49 4 years ago

    Cavalier attitude towards farting. haha.

    I though that was most blokes. ;)

  • Rash' #50 4 years ago

    SpaceMidget75, Well if it's a matter of principle then maybe I shouldn't buy 360 because MS have historically cheated their way to success...

    The point is no company is innocent. They all have their failings so what's the point in getting into a huff about it. Just get the product that best suits your tastes, without getting all political about it. It's a commercial business, not politics.
    Edited by 3 at 21/07/08 @ 15:53

  • johnnybrn #51 4 years ago

    My dislike for Sony comes from the way they regard Europe as if we are second class citizens willing to put up everything. (Which unfortunately people dont mind doing!)

    Nearly always getting products last that also cost more. DS3, PS3 etc.

    I dont hate Sony just feel slighted by them to be honest.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #52 4 years ago

    @Rash
    You've missed the point entirely.

    Well done.

    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 16:07

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #53 4 years ago

    No one is saying that any company is whiter than white. This is about one particular company's tactics that affect the hobby I love. The affect of this is that lots of stupid people buy something because they believe the hype or because they want something (BD) that has nothing to do with the market the device is supposed to be in.

    Now you could say it's not a problem as long as you've got your own machine but when you've seen these tactics kill of support for perfectly good consoles then it is a problem. Especially if I own the fucking thing.

    Sony do this in the console arena. Citing MS in other areas is not for this discussion and is something I may well agree with you on if we had that discussion.

    That's exactly the reason I feel attach rates are important along with total sales. What appears to happen is you inflate your use rbase by selling to people that only want the ancillary item. Publishers then look at this huge user base and think.."you know we need to makes games for this machine instead"

    To be fair it doesn't seem to be a problem this time round as games tend to NEED to be multiformat but it was a problem in the past and I still don't agree with the tactic.

    It also works the other way round with PS3. They managed to convince lots of people/company's that BD players were in more homes than HD-DVD even though some of those people bought a games machine not a film player.
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 16:21

  • ps3owner #54 4 years ago

    @farticusmaximus

    I checked myself as well, I am in there too :)
    look up PS3 (loads of definitions, although... I consider some of them less attractive than other's) and owner. I like the owner part. fits.

    edit: typo
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 16:20

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #55 4 years ago

    @blig

    You're obviously angry because I couldn't really understand half of what you were saying there.

    I would reply but I'm not sure what I'd be replying to.

  • stepneg #56 4 years ago

    I think you make a good point SpaceMidget but don't expect blig and his ilk to understand, as far as I am concerned the PS3 has no games at all to make me want to part with 300 quid especially if you already own a 360 and a Wii. Express this opinion and you will get labeled an Xbot as they can't believe anyone doesn't get wet at the thought of MGS 4 and a GT5 demo...

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #57 4 years ago

    Thanks.

    Can I just say I love Persona, FF Series, GTA Vice City, Ico, SotC, GoW, GoW2 on my PS2. :)

  • Rash' #58 4 years ago

    SpaceMidget75, You're welcome to your opinion but it is extremely biased, ignoring what the tactics you speak have achieved for this industry. Now I like many others here didn't want Sega to bow out of this market, but it's naive to assume that Sony are solely responsible for their demise as a hardware manufacturer. You only have to look at how Sega's portfolio of titles have evoluted since they became a software company to realise that Sega's creative identity wasn't relavent to the changing face of videogames. Some of their best and well known franchises are rarely revisited. Where is Shenmue? That was mean't to be their saving grace in the face of PS2's assault. The fact of the matter is Sega bowed out because their creative identity was too Japanese/arcade/core centric. Look at them today along with titles from Platinum Games they have Football Manager. A football management game. Could imagine the Sega of old producing such titles? You place to much significance on Sony for Sega's demise. It isn't imo a credit they deserve.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #59 4 years ago

    Blig, it's got nothing to do with losing an argument mate. Sometimes it's clear that you're talking to an idiot and no amount of my time is going to convince them of anything I'm trying to say.

    At this point I cut my loses and move on.

    I do the same thing with religious people.

  • Rash' #60 4 years ago

    SpaceMidget75 wrote: "Sometimes it's clear that you're talking to an idiot and no amount of my time is going to convince them of anything I'm trying to say."

    That's the smartest thing you posted on the whole thread... shame it's in an inappropriate context.

  • Rash' #61 4 years ago

    blig_merk, Again I whole heartedly agree re. ex DC owners migrating to MS consoles and Sony having the last laugh.

    What's you PSN ID?

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #62 4 years ago

    Look it's really simple. None of this extrapolating of the discussion required.

    Whenever I speak to 'real' people about buying Sony consoles (2&3) they either state something other than games or tell me how much more powerful the system is/will be compared to the competition.

    That is a statement of FACT and as a gamer I don't like it.

    Is that OK?

    I would like it if a console, ANY console, that was deserved of lasting ten years and selling XXX millions of consoles got there on merits that I think are worthy - mostly gaming value.

    The PS1 did, the PS2 didn't and the PS3 hasn't.

    Edited: Just because it annoys blig
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/08 @ 17:28

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #63 4 years ago

    My Upgrade Path:

    PS1 -> DC -> PS2 -> GC -> 360

    How does that fit in with being a DC owner and upgrading to 'MS Consoles'. I mean seriously WTF.

  • Khanivor #64 4 years ago

    Si is blig the new swam, now with added shift-key feature?

  • ronuds #65 4 years ago

    I think the biggest difference between the PS2 and PS3 is the games. 3rd parties simply aren't as interested this generation is going out of their way to make Playstation versions of every game. It's too expensive to develop for and games don't sell well enough. Unfortunately, it's a trend that I've yet to see reverse itself and we're going on year 2 for the console.

    Not only that, but Sony has MUCH better contenders this time around. Say what you will about the 360 and its sales, but the facts are that it's almost 3 years old and hasn't had more than $50 taken off the price in the US. Once ITS magic number hits $200, who knows what'll happen - especially with the common perception that the 360 still has the most and best games.

  • DjFlex52 #66 4 years ago

    wow, Rash', I can't believe you're really siding with Sony extremist blig_merk and then have the nerve to tell others that their opinions are "extremely biased".
    Pot = Kettle = Black ;)

  • Khanivor #67 4 years ago

    'Rash is quite the Sony fanboi, but he rarely needs a bib, unlike many others that infest this place.

  • Ryze #68 4 years ago

    /baits fanbois

    PS3lol

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #69 4 years ago

    @Arbiter

    1) I apologise if I didn't write a full dossier as to why the DC failed and instead pointed out the facet that was relevant to the discussion.

    2) We have no idea what the full evolutionary power of both systems would be as only one survived. Your statement that the PS2 is vastly superior just cannot be proven. I based my statement on the games available at the time on both systems.

    3) I mentioned the DC as part of a larger point I was making and I'm now been drawn into a debate I have no interest in at the moment. ????

    4) As for what I call my mates. I'm from the East End of London and that's just what we're like. They don't take any offence from it and neither do I. I'm a right charmer I am. And yes, his criteria for buying the games console IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF MY POST.

  • Khanivor #70 4 years ago

    Calm down dear, it's only a moron ;)

  • Rash' #71 4 years ago

    Khanivor, I prefer to think I'm an enthusiast. ;o)

  • Rash' #72 4 years ago

    DjFlex52, You're joking right? Just because there are those here that don't agree with MS hegenomy doesn't mean they're biased. Labeling people because they don't agree with your views is quite sad.

  • DAN.E.B #73 4 years ago

    spacemidget75

    you speak the truth i salute you good sir!

  • bad09 #74 4 years ago

    @ blig_merk

    Damn man, I own a PS3 and it's a decent bit of kit but the levels you are going to trying to defend it against the evil people who dare to defy Sony dogma is a sure sign of fanboyitis, a serious condition if you don't vary your console "loyalties".

    Chill out dude it's only peoples preference, face it there are people out there who don't like what Sony has done so far with PS3. Besides your own ramblings are nothing but opinion just as much as ours......

  • Ryze #75 4 years ago

    Chill, chill, chill. If Sony don't play their cards right, and everyone buys tonnes of them as Blu-Ray players, then the games will dry up and it'll become a PSP2. A media-playing, pirate doorstop/paperweight that had tonnes of potential - never realised.

    Sony'll continue to lose money, and regardless, the 360 is going to continue to receive massive strong game support until the next gen because it SELLS GAMES. Great looking, fast loading, smooth games with a great controller and a great online community to play amongst.

    It's up to Sony what happens next, and it's already fucked it all up so far, and is playing catchup.

    Your move, Sony...

  • DjFlex52 #76 4 years ago

    I'm not arguing that people cant have a different choice to me in console gaming, I'm arguing with people that talk bullshit to justify their choice.
    (but then again, in here, anyone who defends Sony, regardless of how well, is dubbed a Fanboy).

    @blig_merk

    And, of course, you NEVER talk bullshit to justify your choice, right?
    Hey, you're all facts even if they are made up ones :)
    And you're wrong. Anyone who defends Sony is not dubbed a fanboy but YOU ARE.
    What a maroon!

    Rash' - Calling blig_merk a Sony extremist is not labelling. Reread your own posts to see what labelling means.

  • FladgeMangle #77 4 years ago

    @ SpaceMidget75

    " I apologise if I didn't write a full dossier as to why the DC failed and instead pointed out the facet that was relevant to the discussion. "

    That sounds like the words used by the people who read the Bible solely as a means to cherry-pick bigotry.

    "I apologise if I didn't use the whole of Leviticus in my argument and instead pointed out the facet that was relevant to my prejudices"

    You have your devil, your martyr and your messiah. There'is no arguing with that kind of mentality.

  • Rash' #78 4 years ago

    DjFlex52, So what the fuck is calling someone a Sony extremist? Without any grounds... It's those that are clouded by their own biase that have come in here spouting fanboy drivel and accusations.
    Edited by 1 at 22/07/08 @ 02:07

  • Rodney #79 4 years ago

    Wow, Its all kicking off in here.

    It must be kind of frustrating when you know you have the, objectively best console, and everyone else is wrong.

    I suppose its how the Jehovahs witnesses must feel about their religion.



  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #80 4 years ago

    Don't be an idiot all your life fladge.

    LOL @ Rodney. Made me chuckle.

  • FladgeMangle #81 4 years ago

    I didn't expect you to understand, but what a clever comeback. Well done.