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News by Ellie Gibson

21 February, 2008

Game designer Brenda Brathwaite has said she believes it's "inevitable" Hentai games will become more popular outside Japan and more Western developers will start creating them.

Brathwaite was speaking during a roundtable session at the Game Developers Conference titled 'Hentai, hardcore and hotties: Sex in games'. You can't not go, really.

"We don't have an underground way to distribute games. Well, I guess we do; it's called the Internet. But it's not easy to find sex games," she said. (One roundtable attendee suggested sex games should have their own digital distribution network - called, of course, Steamy.)

"I think it's inevitable, on so many levels, [Hentai] games are coming here. Go into any bookstore and look at the anime section," Brathwaite continued. She said that at the moment, Western developers are "not holding a candle to anything done in Japan". However, she believes the future of the sex games industry is in Hentai and the market will grow.

Perhaps inevitably, the subject of the tit in Mass Effect came up more than once during the roundtable. Brathwaite's stance was clear: "Why is that not okay? Why is that not all right? As an industry it's an issue, because must we have these happy little cookie cutter Disney games? Nothing against Disney. Although ironically, many people working in the sex game industry come from Disney," she observed.

But as mild as the sex in Mass Effect was, Brathwaite said, it may well have helped to push the game up the charts. "A lot of people think sex sells. To an extent, sure it does. Sex sells if it's in something like Mass Effect. It makes people who would not otherwise care about Mass Effect go, 'There's a lesbian scene in it? And they're blue? I'll get it.'

"Or the sex mini-game in God of War - I mean come on, really. If that was in a movie and you saw a vase wobbling off a table, that's barely PG-13. It's kind of Happy Days-esque."

However, games like 7 Sins and Singles struggle to achieve high sales because major North American retailers such as Wal-Mart refuse to stock them. But there is a market for sex-focused games - one attendee who worked on the Leisure Suit Larry series said sales have topped seven figures, although 50 per cent of those units were sold outside the US.

Brathwaite then brought up the issue of hot female game characters - and the lack of male counterparts. "On that end sex will sell. Clearly with hotties in games, really attractive female avatars, absolutely. Really attractive male avatars? Anyone? No. Although the dude in God of War was pretty hot."

In fact, Brathwaite reckons, the options are limited generally for women as sex games are almost exclusively designed for men. "You have games where the guy walks out and he's naked, but generally the response I hear from women is, 'Whoa dude, wait. Put something on.' It's not that there's something wrong with a nude male, but it's like there are five steps that need to happen before we get to this point. Whereas guys are just like, 'Bring it.'

"So there's this huge difference, and I think the metaphorical mechanics need to precede the explicit stuff, the sense of the chase."

During the session several ideas about new ways to feature sex in games came up. How about a serious game which helps couples to overcome problems in the bedroom, for example?

"Just imagine you and your partner are having sexual issues," said Brathwaite. "Maybe you've been married for 10 years and you want to spice things up and have some fun... Wouldn't it be amazing if your sex therapist could say, 'You and your partner take this home and in the comfort of your own bedroom, do this.'"

Another suggestion was a game about practicing safe sex aimed at teenagers. One roundtable attendee said he was approached with a pitch for such a game at last year's GDC, so you never know.

This one's a little more off the wall. "Just suppose you had a swinger party and you didn't want to say, 'Listen, here's the deal. There's like 20 people in the room but I would rather rip my face off than sleep with that dude,'" suggested Brathwaite.

"What if you had a computer sex game that was controlling the entire thing, so you could say 'I'm willing to do this and this, but not with this'. A computer could actually do that and you could avoid whatever social issues."

Now that's what they call broadening the gaming demographic. Watch out, Nintendo.

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Cataferal
21/02/08 @ 00:49
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So. When's the next eurogamer hentai games feature/round-up?
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21/02/08 @ 01:26
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What they're talking about here is vastly different from the average Japanese Eroge. Those are rarely more technically ambitious than Myst. There are a handful of 3D ones which show some promise, but I doubt many people would actually pay for that sort of thing - most people just pirate them.
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21/02/08 @ 02:28
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the best h-games aren't so much about the sex.
Luckz
21/02/08 @ 02:43
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I thought the best thing about H-Games typically were the hilarious titles.
3william56
21/02/08 @ 03:15
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/shivers at the sordid uses the wiimote will be put to
Davemanz
21/02/08 @ 03:29
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Swingers parties are depressing, I would imagine.

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On topic though, this would just give games an even worse reputation. Unless a select few feminists decide that it's empowering to women and don't let the other feminists speak!
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Wobble
21/02/08 @ 07:31
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TTIWWOP
Mentalist(air)
21/02/08 @ 08:57
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Unless a select few feminists decide that it's empowering to women

It seems to me that most of the articles about sex and games these days are written by women. This article was written by Ellie, mostly featuring the opinions of a female designer, and over at Kotaku Maggie Greene always seems to be banging (sorry) on about it, and linking to Leigh Alexander articles like In "In Defence of Breast Physics".

It was a woman who came up with that DS Bunny-wanking experiment, too.

Perhaps the fairer sex are just more interested in sex than violence for their 'mature' rated interactive entertainment.
Kirly_Wombat
21/02/08 @ 09:08
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I dont doubt they`ll come to the west but it will be a shame. I can only see them setting back any attempt to handle sex in games in a mature manner.
SlackMaster
21/02/08 @ 09:22
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Bring on the demon porn ;)
Olemak
21/02/08 @ 09:41
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Xiphos: Right. Anyone with half a brain will understand that... well, if we're talking about half a paper maché brain made from a dictionary soaked in liquid LSD, of course.

Anyway - sex is good. Sex is lots better than violence, I know, Ićve tried both. Not shooting anyone, but I did beat some folks up a bit and that was OK. But not better than sex. Shooting people in games are fun, but I've never had the luxury of playiung a game that's even a little bit sexy, but I bet that would be very nice. I'm not the least intrested in tacky games like Lola, tho.

It's a wide-spread myth that women are not interested in sex and erotica. There are loads of sex products and erotic media content aimed at women, but it is usually packaged a little more discretely than the stuff aimed at guys. Fewer pictures, more ready bits and stuff. More clever, sort of, more subtle. Pick up any girlie magazine, like Cosmopolitan or whatever, and you'll find more sex bits in there than in your average Maxim or FHM.



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21/02/08 @ 09:46
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Indeed, one need only look st the Black Lace phenomenon.




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7creature
21/02/08 @ 09:58
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H-game (eroge) doesn't mean "hentai" game. F***ing english slang. Bah, it seems that this stupid use of Japanese words won't disappear any time soon... Whatever :/

/rolls eyes
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Re: Mentalist(air)

Perhaps the fairer sex are just more interested in sex than violence for their 'mature' rated interactive entertainment.

Probably more do to with the editors. If you want to have an article about sex in games on your site/in your magazine you can't have it be written by a man because then it'll be labeled as sexist, immature and sleazy, even if it's sensible and informative.
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21/02/08 @ 12:05
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At last, a proper Euro SKU for Oppai Slider!!
coojam
21/02/08 @ 13:36
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Haven't these guys heard of Second Life?
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21/02/08 @ 16:31
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I've been a long time advocate of more sex in games for ages, though this doesn't necessarily more Hentai games. Hentai games are either about some teenage boy trying to seduce the class hottie or about some thirty-year old following the class hottie home and raping her. Niether make particulaly good games and would be banned by the BBFC no question (and not because of Manhunt 2 because of their strong stance on rape and underage sex as seen in their policies).

As far as I'm concerned games should have as much sex as required by the plot of the game. Mass Effect pitched perfectly as the sex scene wasn't at all jarring. Vampire the masqurade however is full of swearing, violence, strong flirting etc. but you go to a strip club and all the women still have their bras on. I mean WTF? What is the point of including a strip club in the first place? The Witcher's just as bad. It's basically saying wow aren't we mature we have sex in games... but games are for kids so we won't show anything. The industry should be mature enough to handle itself.

PS I personally blame america as if GTA:SA's hot coffee mod (irc) wouldn't have caused a fuss if it was included in the game proper in uk/europe/canada/japan etc but the world imploded in the US (this a game where you can murder prostitutes to avoid paying ffs).

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