Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer Comments by Ellie Gibson
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Sounds interesting - but they have taken so many standard game elements out (no guns, puzzles, enemies etc.) you do have to wonder what is left in terms of interaction. Though if that bloke wasn't an enemy then what was he exactly? At this stage it's interesting that they are exploring this sort of game genre, but it will either be brilliant or really, really shite. :)
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shamblemonkee
22/08/08 @ 11:03
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remains unconvinced. doesn't sound greatly interactive (yes i discount quick-time events as interactive)
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squarejawhero
22/08/08 @ 11:03
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miiiguel, it's clearly more than that.
I own a Xbox and want to see more stuff like this. It's a shame it's not multiplat, to be perfectly honest. A game that'll require thought, a mature storyline to boot and an interesting approach to narrative deserves applause. It's a game that revels in what made adventure gaming great, so get over it. |
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squarejawhero
22/08/08 @ 11:11
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miiiguel - it's the only game that makes me want to turn over to the dark side so far...
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farticusmaximus
22/08/08 @ 11:12
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I like that they are trying to do something different with the gameplay but I can't help feeling that they have accidentally created a fancy Dragons Lair.
Especially the comments about pressing triangle when running down the stairs or you trigger a canned animation, that instantly brings back memories of Dirk being fried or crushed.. However you cut it, it still sounds like a QTE driven movie, which is a shame as the style and artwork look really nice. |
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but to select one you tilt the Sixaxis. The idea is you can move, interact with the environment and talk at the same time
Sounds great in theory. In practice how would I keep track of anything? What happens if I go to move and tilt the controller by accident? So far, the more I hear and see of this game. The more it seems to have nothing but looks going for it. |
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Ninja_Tino
22/08/08 @ 11:15
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Hope there's no AI thingys or dance offs with insects in the work place!
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Please promise me there is no weird alien deus ex machina to resolve the story line.
It really gets my goat when great games are ruined by having the storyline resolved by throwing aliens into the mix - I'm looking at you Fahrenheit and Far Cry and yes, I'm going to say it, the end segment of Half-Life as well |
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SpaceMidget75
22/08/08 @ 11:24
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Sounds great. I'll reserve judgement until it's played rather than watched being played by someone who worked on the game.
I actually got whiffs of the old Lucasarts adventures like Full Throttle reading that. I hope that's true!! |
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Agent_Llama
22/08/08 @ 11:38
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Looks awesome and the themes etc sound like it'd be right up my street, but Fahrenheit was personally my biggest ever gaming let-down. It promised so much and destroyed it with hideous QTEs, cliches and that god-awful stealth bit.
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espadachin
22/08/08 @ 11:39
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wow, great article, this game has shot up to the top of my 'interested' list.
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" the man controlling Madison must hold down triangle, circle, R2 and L1 to keep her hidden in a wardrobe."
Seriously... who comes up with gameplay like that??? I am sorry... but despite liking their previous efforts is still sounds like a big meh to me. These kind of "games" were discredited in the late 90s. I would be impressed if they managed to have some procedurally generated plot engine or something like that, but this sounds pretty mediocre. This is just Dragon's Lair with more variations. And yes I am not a fan of "games need to be interactive fiction". I like my games to be just games and have gameplay.
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SpaceMidget75
22/08/08 @ 11:51
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It does make me wonder just how good QD are. It's like they're not brilliant games developers (Stealth Mini-Game, QTE's etc etc) but they're also not particularly great at making CG films either (stupid ending, annoying and stereotyped characters)
Nomad was their best game when they didn't have this obsession with movies. |
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It's so nice to see developers actually having the balls to go ahead with projects like this. I'm sick to death of generic FPS blasters and franchise games.
I agree with the comment that this is true next-gen. Games need to progress. Storytelling in games needs to progress and this seems like just the ambitious project to do it. Granted, the concept of quick time-events has gotten pretty boring lately, as more and more games feature them (tho they work well in the God of War games), but here's hoping Heavy Rain won't be all about QTEs. One here and there is ok. All the time would be a big letdown. I must say I love the look of this, and the emphasis on storytelling and emotional responses is very intruiging indeed. And I loved Fahrenheit. |
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>You only have to apologize if you have something positive to say about a PS3 exclusive.
Yeah must be that. This possible can't be bad... The trend has been to try to develop sandbox worlds with real physics, better AI and procedural generated content (be it graphics or real gameplay data) to get rid (or reduce) of scripted gaming and here comes a game that discards all that and goes back to a QT events driven gameplay with branching scripted events. I am sorry... but as a dev I feel like that is a step back. But who knows.. maybe the story will indeed be so good that it will be a worthwhile experiment. In the end, if it is great fun for a good number of people I am not going to give it bad scores. I just feel like this kind of stuff was behind us technically.
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"We try to tell a real story that's happening in a real world. No supernatural powers, no monster to kill, just real life."
Thank God! Fahrenheit's main draw was as an interactive story - which was quite good until the terrible final act. A dead guy fighting an alien AI? What?!?! Glad to hear they've moved away from that crazyness! I'm much more excited for Hard Rain with an assurance that they will not go down that road again.
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SpaceMidget75
22/08/08 @ 12:21
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@Widge
Actually lots of Shenmue's QTE's weren't like that. If you fucked them up you just got a different outcome e.g. having the football kicked at your head, or chasing the bag thief in part 2. Some of them also gave you multiple chances in the same QTE so if you missed a button Ryu tripped over but he continued the chase anyway. Pretty much what they keep saying about this game as if it's the saviour of QTE. The actual events where quite spaced out too so you actually got to enjoy the action a bit. It was Fahrenheit that got it wrong not Shenmue.
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Negotiator
22/08/08 @ 12:22
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The fact that it's all AI driven, and not pre-set scripted routines gives this one scene an almost limitless amount of outcomes. You won't know what the guy is going to do at any time, this is the PS3 game that has convinced me to buy one. The fact that Sony is publishing the game, means that a 360 version is never going to happen, so my hand as been forced. Heavy Rain could well be the first true next step forward for gaming, Sony you just won me over, well done.
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