Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" Comments by Robert Purchese
Itagaki bites thumb at thee.
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@Lambtron
I get the impression that most people who like QTS (is it Quick time sequences or events?) never got to the end of GOW2 at all. The sequence with Zeus was one of those where you either got through it first/second time or stayed there for dozens of tries. Once you thought you knew the sequence and timings the buttons would change and, because of the split second you have to respond, most people ended up hitting the buttons they remembered from their last attempt. It wouldn't have been so bad if failing hadn't required you to fight Zeus all over again. edited for spelling. And to Steroyds post further down. Yep I was the idiot who played in titan mode...
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ManicDrunkMonk
06/08/07 @ 14:55
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If Ninja Gaiden were his only games then fine, but suggesting Dead or Alive is anything other than a pile of poop compared to any other major fighting series is a bit rich.
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BTW, the QTE in Resi 4 were brilliant. The device kept the player fully engaged because you were never sure whether you were watching a cut scene or a QTE. The purpose of the tool is to develop the narrative thread without breaking the player involvement and no game did that more convincingly than Resi.
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The only flaw with RE4 was the Krauser vs Lyon knife fight when you first went through it, it was trial and error the second time you had to just have quick lightening reflexes.
Just about my least enjoyable times with QTE's along with Fahrenheits storyline coupled with the QTE's and ugh, linear-ness of the second half of the game just made the game collapse ontop of itself. |
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afghan_jones
06/08/07 @ 15:25
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is this a big deal? At the end of the day it goes like this:
One man who makes games says other games are bad and his are the best games. The end. |
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kangarootoo
06/08/07 @ 15:28
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That is embarassing.
Whether he is right or not has nothing to do with how bloody unprofessional flinging poo is. Thats what we are supposed to do anonymously in here :) Plus anyone who insists wearing shades in a dark room should be viewed with suspicion. |
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Issues of whether it's any good or not aside, the title of this article seems to be a massive misrepresentation of what he said
EG seeing to be doing this a lot recently. And Tony Blair even pointed out the damage of sensationalist headlines in his last week as PM - you could tell he had EG in mind. |
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kangarootoo
06/08/07 @ 15:42
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So what did he actually say (before I slander him any further)?
:) Sorry if its already been posted. I was busy when this thread got started. |
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@space ace
Thanks for that linkage. I hadnt seen HS 'in the flesh' until now. Was probably THE only game i'd have stumped up the dosh for a 2nd hand PS3 for. But, thats just gone out of the window. Nice detail close up (scaled?) but the animation sucked and the number of jaggies was just incredible. Fighting looks nowhere near as refined as Ninja Gaiden - infact, The original Xbox Ninja Gaiden through VGA looks 10 times better than that peesh. Thank you for saving me £280 and +2 respect to you.
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BillyBrush
06/08/07 @ 16:12
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I really liked Kung Fu Chaos...and suspect this will be pretty good...what's wrong with a bit of hack n slash?...Ninja Gaiden whilst great would have been traded by most normal non hardcore people for being too frickin hard...i got past the dude on the airship, past the guy on horse on the bridge, past the big slimy thing holding wossername, then it all got too much for my broken fingers...show of hands those who completed the game (i beleive the last boss was so difficile the only way to beat her was to use jump + attack, only the most hardcore could pull that off) Tenchu z ftw in the Ninjery stakes!
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I really like the Dead or Alive series but making almost the same game a couple of times and then start a spin-off franchise which is.. well.. video game porn really doesn't make you the best developer out there..
Maybe some comments were taken out of their context but the man is just too arrogant. |
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@BillyBrush
Totally agree with you - the learning curve was perhaps a little on the steep side for your average gamer. But you see, thats why I still play NG after all this time - it's challenging and beautiful. The fact you can get it for £4 in some stores just makes it all the better when you consider the RRP of some of the 360 and PS3 shit doing the rounds. |
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el_pollo_diablo
06/08/07 @ 17:34
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Well I thought it was a bit of a duff demo too, but given that Itagaki is a total bell-end who makes shitty adolescent titty volleyball games whilst simultaneously harassing female employees and wearing a leather jacket and shades Steven Segall wouldn't be seen dead in, I'm going to ignore absolutely everything he ever says ever again.
The twat. |
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Machiavellian
06/08/07 @ 17:47
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Maybe it's just me but I really cannot get all worked up when Itagaki talks about Tekken or even Heavealy Sword. Tekken is my all time favorite Fighter even over Virtual Figther. Itagaki has always hated Tekken and I doubt it will change anytime soon because Tekken is the same game pretty much each release.
Itagaki remarks on HS actually are correct for me in certain contexts but I will have to see how HS do QTE to see if it is overly done and detracts from playing the game. NG is still my favorite action game because of the difficulty level even over GOW1 and 2 which I must say I hated the QTE with ZEUS. |
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yagisencho
06/08/07 @ 18:02
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I had a chance to play the Heavenly Sword demo on a friend's PS3. It was very pretty, especially at 1080p, but I was bored after one minute of fending off endless swarms of enemies. My comment at the time was something like, "How do I get past this part? Do they just keep spawning endlessly? Is there anything else to do?"
The game could be much more interesting than the demo makes it seem. But if so, they goofed big time on the demo content. |
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JediMasterMalik
06/08/07 @ 18:16
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I think Itagaki's comments are half-assed, there's no constructive criticism, or acknowledgement of the fact that the game's not even out or that it clearly already does stuff better than any of his games.
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Then there's the 3d Zelda games. Those also have a big icon to show what the context sensetive A-button does at any given time.
Gears of War could actually do with a constant presence of what the context sensetive button does at any time, to alleviate some of the frustration of the character diving in cover hen you wanted them to dash and such. |
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TheStranger
06/08/07 @ 18:28
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"They'll all be better than Tekken 6 and Heavenly Sword, obviously."
Glad we agree. |
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patchbox360
06/08/07 @ 18:32
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"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen,"
thank you |
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"I think Itagaki's comments are half-assed, there's no constructive criticism, or acknowledgement... that it clearly already does stuff better than any of his games. "
That's the point. I get the impression he's working on his next big project (i.e. NG2) and is pissed to discover this small time company develop this big time game, that directly puts up stiff competition to his, still well away from completion, project. That's why I think this story is significant to HS. |
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Artemis_Matsas
06/08/07 @ 19:51
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Oh boy...
Itagaki's statements reminded me of a ten year old boy, crying over toys that he cannot play with. |
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captain-future
06/08/07 @ 22:13
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I love Itagaki, he's the last real rockstar developer and you can call him anything but he's always entertaining, never boring.
Also did you know: Itagaki was born wearing shades. |
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Kill_Crazy
07/08/07 @ 07:48
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"DOA has bouncing titties, therefore wins.
Any argument after this statement is now rendered null and void by doll-like jubbly juggling shenanigans and the bemusement contained wherein." Some of us have ACTUAL girlfriends/ wives and we prefer real titties to graphics. Therefore your argument is null and void. Now pull your pants up and put that joystick away |
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ParanoidZombie
07/08/07 @ 11:59
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Ninja Gaiden is the best action game ever, there's no QTEs in it, so I respect this guy's opinion. I also like the fact that the guy candidly speaks his mind, because i'm really tired of all that bullshit PR mumbo jumbo. And BTW I agree with everything he said.
Reason for editing: too much coffee.
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el_pollo_diablo
07/08/07 @ 15:29
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Ninja Gaiden isn't the best action game ever.
The best action game ever is Final Fight. |
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