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Haze Comments by Kristan Reed

22 May, 2008

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Foat1
22/05/08 @ 13:53
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looks awsome
BlankOBlank!
22/05/08 @ 13:54
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Are you watching FRD? You need a team of dedicated game designers, not just level designers and scripters!

Designers should always be utterly distinct from implementation.

Absolutely essential these days to avoid disasters like this.
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ps3owner
22/05/08 @ 13:55
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I blame the economy! :)

who cares. I don't (anymore) back to COD4 then
asphaltcowboy
22/05/08 @ 13:56
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@disc: Err... The Darkness was awesome! And MoH:A was... alright, but this sounds truly horrific!
Waldo
22/05/08 @ 13:56
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Just wait until ______ comes out!
SBfistfun
22/05/08 @ 13:56
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Sb loves bot-play
SteveB
22/05/08 @ 13:58
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Goldeneye > Timesplitters > Second sight > Haze.

Wow, I can't wait for their next game it looks like FRD are on a roll !
The_Inquisitor
22/05/08 @ 13:59
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It looked bad from the very first screenshot, generic and bland with few points of interest. The fact that they concentrated on the story highlights how much it must be lacking in other areas.
supersoldier01
22/05/08 @ 14:00
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I'm going to regret this but..

"Elsewhere, on the rare occasions that you have to destroy a bridge or a piece of equipment, the insultingly basic process of pressing a couple of switches to make it all happen wouldn't trouble a four-year-old. "
How is this any different in Halo 3?

"Hilariously, when they become incapacitated (which is often), you can revive them by wandering up to them and, err, touching their heads."
You mean just like Gears of War?

"goldfish memory of everyone around you."
Any of the major FPS's that don't have this?

Disclaimer - I haven't played the game...
Gaol
22/05/08 @ 14:03
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I also think The Darkness was a bit shit. I got it for £20 earlier this year and its the worst game I've bought this gen. I think I ranted a bit in the 'games completed' thread. The actual gameplay and controls were very loose.
LHH
22/05/08 @ 14:03
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Well atleast Bioshock has (somewhat) been confirmed for PS3, they will get a decent shooter after all.

*puts on MS sponsered underwear*
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ps3owner
22/05/08 @ 14:05
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"goldfish memory of everyone around you."

sounds just like my office hrhrhr :)
kangarootoo
22/05/08 @ 14:06
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"In all seriousness, Jericho is a masterpiece next to this."

/cries

@BlankOBlank!
"Designers should always be utterly distinct from implementation."

What does that mean? I'm not picking on it, I think its an interesting comment. I just wonder what exactly you mean by it.
Aloominum_man
22/05/08 @ 14:07
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Haze is shaping up to be a very solid PS3 exclusive, visually it's got its own unique style, with four player co-op (Haze's campaign will be a blast with three friends online), big levels, lots of vehicle driving, turret firing settings and some spectacular set pieces these game is gonna rock, the jungle scenery is much welcome too... we're getting a bit bored of identikit Unreal Engine 3 shooters, so Haze's aesthetic should prove to be a selling point, it should keep PS3-owning shooters happy until big-hopes Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 arrive later in the year... to me, Haze is a must buy and will place somewhere between 8/10 and 10/10.

Free Xbox360 for the first person to correctly identify who said that. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Might as well get some fun out of the situation.
Super_Zee
22/05/08 @ 14:07
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Shit. That's gonna hurt.
peterfll
22/05/08 @ 14:12
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I see the comments filling up nicely as expected.

I was a little surprised with a 4/10? The actual review text didn't match my mark expectation. 4/10 is almost too generous.
Razz
22/05/08 @ 14:13
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*Sony 2007*

Just you wait! Sony will own 2008!

*Sony today*

Grrr! Just you guys wait! Sony will own 2009! Next year will be ours.

LOL! :D I have a PS3 with Everybody's Golf WT, I've got other games but this is the only game I currently use it for. Looks like that will be the case for a long while seeing as I'm not a fan of MGS. :/
bad09
22/05/08 @ 14:13
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No surprise really, from the start Haze never looked like being a good game to me. Never mind MGS4 and Ferrari challenge (god I hope that's good) next month to keep the gaming side of my DVD/blu-ray player operational :)

No swam or apologie here I see, I wonder why.........
rotmm
22/05/08 @ 14:13
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Answer: Apologie

Hey. I'm de winnar!
redneon
22/05/08 @ 14:14
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I have to say, as much I'm enjoying 'lol'ing at the PS3 fanboys for all these shit PS3 games; I'll be severly disappointed if Little Big Planet turns out to be pants.
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syphaa
22/05/08 @ 14:14
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What can you say...I am not surprised. After playing it at Gamecity last year in Notts, it was awful then...but really thought what I was playing was an early build...maybe it was not that early! :)

PWNd
Xerx3s
22/05/08 @ 14:14
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"MGS 4 had better be darn good...the PS 3 simply has to win this console war..
and i pray it does..."

Any particular reason that sony 'simply has to win this console war'?
monkie_king
22/05/08 @ 14:15
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Aloominum_Man: hmm, it's too grammatical for Aplologie, and it's not Headbog/Swam as he always types it as "Ps3" ...

I'm going to go for Apologie, but cut and paste from somewhere else ;)

edit: heh, it's cut'n'pasted together from bits of videogamer.com preview.
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Miths
22/05/08 @ 14:17
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I've been playing for around an hour and half today (just made the faction "switch" a few minutes ago and just taking a short break before I move on), and I've actually enjoyed the game so far.
Granted, I haven't played a lot of shooters (though after getting hooked on CoD4 multiplayer I imagine I'll rectify that in the future), so I don't have a whole lot to which to compare Haze, but if the rest is as... well, good might be pushing it, but decent then, as what I've seen so far, I would probably give this a 6 or 7.

Since I had already read all the other horrible reviews, I really picked it up mostly in the hope the multiplayer might serve as a good occasional break from CoD4 until BF:BC is out next month, but since I haven't had a chance to try that yet, it's too soon for me to say if it might be more impressive in that area.
lambtron
22/05/08 @ 14:17
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"How is this any different in Halo 3?"

Hmm, in Halo3 when you blow stuff up its usually not a switch. E.g. the huge scarab tank that you actually climb inside of while its moving around. Still, its true that myriad FPSs are guilty of this.

"Hilariously, when they become incapacitated (which is often), you can revive them by wandering up to them and, err, touching their heads.
You mean just like Gears of War? "

Can't fault you here :).

"goldfish memory of everyone around you.
Any of the major FPS's that don't have this? "

Actually I would argue this is far less evident in some of the better recent FPSs.
grantc7
22/05/08 @ 14:18
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Disappointed, and I don't even own a PS3. These generic FPS games are getting far too common.
ps3owner
22/05/08 @ 14:18
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Apologie it is:

the actual thread

good game ;) any more quotes?
Widge
22/05/08 @ 14:19
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its Apologie, only one person on here writes like a press statement

I love my little shiny black box, but GOD, something inside me internally cries when he does one of his onslaughts
Widge
22/05/08 @ 14:20
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Seriously can't wait for MGS4, plus certainly one of those games where I personally don't need a review score to validate my joy for it!
TheNinkyNonk
22/05/08 @ 14:20
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Free Radical have been on the ol' crack-pipe methinks...
Widge
22/05/08 @ 14:20
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Nectar Pipe....
rotmm
22/05/08 @ 14:21
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@monkie_king,

Seems you're right about the cut/paste.

Here's the thread where apologie pastes http://www.eurogamer.net/article_discuss...

And here's (with a little help from google) when the cut came from http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/haze/previ...
BiscuitBase
22/05/08 @ 14:23
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Is it possible to die of a schadenfreude overdose?
Aloominum_man
22/05/08 @ 14:24
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Yup - Apologie. I had hoped that the semi-grammatical, almost-adult structure that he managed there would throw you all off a bit longer. No disguising Eurogamer's Nostradamus I suppose.

It is a good game though - let's see some more. I'm sure he wrote (I like to imagine he has one of those wands you attach to your head with a headband) more on the subject.
monkie_king
22/05/08 @ 14:24
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Heh, yeah, I just found that too and edited my previous comment. You can actually tell where the cut and paste ends and Apologie begins, as it stops being proper English. Also ... the trademark use of ... ellipsis between every statement ... is a giveaway.

(love the wand theory incidentally, although pressing Ctrl+V would be hard then).
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Quint2020
22/05/08 @ 14:24
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Christ that was a scathing review!

............ Hazelol etc
Lukus
22/05/08 @ 14:24
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Reads more like a 2 than a 4. An amusingly scathing review I might add!
TheNinkyNonk
22/05/08 @ 14:25
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Why do FPSs attract so much hype? I love em, fo sho, but why are they such gushy-journo-magnets?
gohda
22/05/08 @ 14:26
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How can you give such a bad review then give a 4?
I'm disappointed as well, but that review was definitely a 2 or 3.
Lukus
22/05/08 @ 14:26
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Snap Quint2020!
Kalinin
22/05/08 @ 14:26
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I can't say I was all that hyped in the run up, but one look at the demo and frankly I was astounded at how retrograde the whole thing felt.

What annoys me most is that, as a studio, Free Radical are better than this and were doing much more immediately entertaining projects on the last gen consoles like Second Sight and Future Perfect.

I only hope that a bad game released at a very bad time between the two biggest action titles on the platform isn't going to have repercussions for their future and that it's merely going to be a sour note before they release something more on form.
fattulip
22/05/08 @ 14:27
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I am looking to buy a ps3, completing this generation's triumvirate, and was hoping this would come out better. At the moment the only thing I would really get one for is Eye of Judgement (M:tG nerd of old) and Singstar for my kids. Disappointment :(
Buztafen
22/05/08 @ 14:28
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As scathing reviews go, not many can beat this F@*king Piece of Sh$t
TRACTORBOY1971
22/05/08 @ 14:30
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WHy oh Why, no wonder MS did not pay the money to have it on their system, because they knew it would be rubbish.

When oh when am I going to play something decent on my PS3, I have unchartered, I have rachet and clank which are all exclusives, but that is it.

As I said before, I always buy mulit platofrm games on the Xb 360....Sony please let me enjoy your consolse, I am not looking forward to MGS4, mainly because there are too many cut scenes, it is not my cup of tea. lets hope resistance it better then a 4/10, needs to be at least an 8/10 for me to buy it.
Killzone not out until next year....

why did I buy the PS3 at launch...........at least when I bought the 360 there were some good launch games.

a cheesed of PS3 gamer.........but a happy xbox 360 gamer
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deathdealer619
22/05/08 @ 14:32
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Well I have the game already and I dont think its anyway near as bad as 4/10 And people are missing the point from an audio design point of view it is supposed to be comical and cheesey.

i would give it a 6.8/10
IAmBatman
22/05/08 @ 14:32
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> Designers should always be utterly distinct from implementation.
> Absolutely essential these days to avoid disasters like this.

And "disasters" like GTA4? Because R*North's designers are mission scripters too.
ISmoke
22/05/08 @ 14:33
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FRD said this would be the shooter that made everyone know how 'stong' the PS3 is . Pricks.
Widge
22/05/08 @ 14:33
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lol@HourOfVictory.com

not seen that one!
magikdodo
22/05/08 @ 14:34
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@Xers3S; i for one will be sad to see the PS 3 die a slow but painful death..
and that could happen if we don't buy the PS3 console..i'm not sure i'm ready to go
back to the family nintendo.

nintendo was great while growing up (owned the gameboy, NES, SNES, N64 consoles)

but sony playstation 1, my favourite console to date, brought loads of joy what with driver
and mgs 1. playstation 2 was good too though but the best titles were made towards the
end of its shelf life

PS 3 has been beset with many problems since launch not least the high price entry..
shitty games have kept me from getting on

but hopefully june 12 will prove me right as i dole out my hard earned money for mgs 4..

cant bear to play MGS on any other console, and IMO GTA 4 should have stayed loyal to SONY..

rant over
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22/05/08 @ 14:35
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WHy oh Why, no wonder MS did not pay the money to have it on their system, because they knew it would be rubbish.

When oh when am I going to play something decent on my PS3, I have unchartered, I have rachet and clank which are all exclusives, but that is it.

As I said before, I always buy mulit platofrm games on the Xb 360....Sony please let me enjoy your consolse, I am not looking forward to MGS4, mainly because there are too many cut scenes, it is not my cup of tea. lets hope resistance it better then a 4/10, needs to be at least an 8/10 for me to buy it.
Killzone not out until next year....

why did I buy the PS3 at launch...........at least when I bought the 360 there were some good launch games.

a cheesed of PS3 gamer.........but a happy xbox 360 gamer
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