Haze not in HD, has 4GB install Comments by Robert Purchese

Played the demo, its now deleted, didn't like it at all.

A fine comments thread this'll be, to be sure, to be sure.

Looks like it'll be solid but probably unspectacular.

Let's get the ball rolling.

I heard the PS3 causes cancer in babies.

Halo 3 was 640p and COD4 was 600p but ran at 60fps.
No excuse for this, we know the PS3 can do MUCH better.

Something's went badly wrong in the development.

I just heard a rumour that Haze got 4/10 in gamesTM magazine. I can sense a hazelol coming on

If it came out for the 360 it would run at 720p...

Quite ironic given the previous hyperbole created by the dev team.

4GB a minimal install? O_O

It goes to show how figures lie and liars figure.

Look what uncharted achieves with no install.... it's clear Haze is multiplatform under the hood.....

I too played the Haze demo, it's quite funny, it's like Halo and Half-Life never happened. Some of the worst textures I've ever seen too!

Its got the right name HAZE lol.

They should admit their incompetence.




UT3 has way better graphics than HAZE and it runs in High Def.

So are we into post-HD games now? We went there, then stepped back and don't really want to make the effort now.

BLU RAY 4 LIFE

Oh come on. That's the same fucking vertical resolution as standard definition. It's a fucking joke how more and more games simply can't be bothered to go 720p anymore. I hope these developers are hearing the outroar more and more. It gets incredibly public when their games get found out not to be 720p, and I hope it embarasses them enough not to even think about pulling it off again in future.

I said it in the forum game thread but I think it's disappointing that Free Radical's first PS3 game is effectively running at the same resolution as their previous PS2 game, TimeSplitters 3. The game looks blurry and the textures are especially weak so much so that it looks at times like a slick-looking PS2 game not one made specifically for the PS3.

I'm praying that the game plays a lot better than it looks but even so I was completely underwhelmed by the recent demo. Played like a mee-too Halo 3 clone with the novelty of having up to three other human players alongside you in co-op. Is this four-player co-op the real reason for the graphical downgrade or is the PS3 simply not as capable as Sony would have us believe? I can't help thinking that if this ever came out on the 360, it would be running at 640p or 720p and looking a lot less vaseline smeared... :?

Look up HD in the Fanboy dictionary:

HD (adj) Hopes Dodgy, allows users of rival consoles to condemn a game or technology despite it having no bearing on playability - the most important factor in any game.

see also, Highly Dubious (adj) any claim made by vendor or developer about their technology.

I also played the demo. You could tell its not HD from the cruddy visuals, some of the textures are PS2 standard. You know they arn't confident when they release a press statement like this.

I was wanting it, but can't now, not enough space for the install. Shame, I liked it.

I kinda have to agree with the sentiment here. 576 is really weak compared to what the machine can handle. It didn't look that good to begin with.

On the other hand. If no one said anything I wouldn't have really noticed. Apart from it not really looking that special part that is.

I've been hearing bad things about the finished version of Haze from various sources, unfortunately.

Isn't 1080p true HD, not 720p?

@bdc - I was playing high-definition games on my PC ten years ago at 1024x768 so it's a bit disconcerting that the two current "state-of-the-art" so-called HD consoles can't always manage to render games natively at 1280x720. I think it's clear now that the HD era as far as the consoles go is a little premature and we won't see proper HD games as standard until the next generation when the hardware will presumably be powerful enough to handle 1280x720 minimum for ALL games.

PS3 out of 10

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it's in fact disappointing that flagship titles of the new HD era, are not HD at all.... Halo, GTAIV, Haze etc... are not HD, and that just sucks. On the other hand i'm looking forward to Haze but with more prudence... and yes, most textures are very low. I can only hope that gameplay and story can compensate.

Nekotcha's too busy clearing his desk and stocking his bunker. The poor bastard.

I thought the demo looked fine (would not have guessed was as low as 576p) but the game play was terribly terribly meh. Voice acting was very grating but I got the feel this was deliberate to show the effects of the drug.

In an FPS heavy market, will Haze struggle to succeed? I say YES.

"I said it in the forum game thread but I think it's disappointing that Free Radical's first PS3 game is effectively running at the same resolution as their previous PS2 game, TimeSplitters 3. The game looks blurry and the textures are especially weak so much so that it looks at times like a slick-looking PS2 game not one made specifically for the PS3."

To be honest the ENTIRE game feels like a PS2 game, with the dated level design, graphics and gameplay. I downloaded the enormous (1.5GB!) demo only to turn it off in disgust after 5 minutes and went back to playing MoH Airborne as that is a far better game in every respect.

Its like the last 10 years never happened.

MaxiSleep

Voice acting was very grating but I got the feel this was deliberate to show the effects of the drug.

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I saw some videos of the rebels and the voice acting was just as bad... very cheesy.
Multiplayer will be good (i hope), and the gameplay too because graphically it's just by HALO's standards...

Oh and another mandatory 4 GB HDD install which is sure to annoy PS3 owners with the 40 GB HDD. Doesn't bother me now particularly as I've installed a 320 GB HDD specifically because of the number of games with forced installs but I think it highlights a weakness of the PS3, namely its slow BD access speeds. That or lazy developers, one of the two!!! Console HDD installs IMO should always be OPTIONAL not mandatory.

Wow, what an almighty fuck up this is going to be.

I hate installing games. Was afraid this would happen with consoles if each and every one of them had a hd drive. The only thing keeping this from happening on the xbox as well is the core unit.

This game always looked wrong. Me and many others pointed out that in the jungle scenes you couldn't make out the enemy with or without nectar. At the time we thought that was just because of early code. Seems the demo corrected that misconception. The game is crap sadly and why they made it exclusively PS3 now seems to be more because at 576p Microsoft simply wouldn't accept it.

I too have deleted the demo from my PS3 and will be settling back down to wait for Nija gaiden 2 and metal gear solid 4

PS3 have amazing games like Uncharted, GT Prologue, COD4 etc... that can perform amazingly despised they'r state of the art graphics, Haze should be just as good.... it's a dev problem, but don't diss the game for that, HAlo3 graphics are shit and yet many people seem to look at it like nectar from a junkie perspective , if Haze can deliver good gameplay and an extensive multiplayer, people will forget about HD, trust me...

the all powerful Cell CPU bow before it all comers!!....no wait.....

That guy should have kept his mouth shut.
Haze will get even more killed at retail now.

I loved al FRD games up until now, but the Demo, and all the stuff I played while I still was a games journalist, really didn't convince me.

I was planning to pick this up anyway, but with GRID being one week away, and the ol' COD4 microbe again rearing its head (Finished GTA4 this weekend, btw), I'll guess this will become a cheap ebay buy in a few months.

Or maybe never, if Bad Company's online move lives up to its legacy.

@Darren

It's down to the slow BD drive sadly. It is quite possible for newer generations of PS3 to have a 2x or 4x drive installed but, these would actually end up sounding like the 360's jet engine of a drive (though people usually wrongly blame the 360's fans which are whisper quiet). It would also mean that some PS3 owners would need a mandatory install and others wouldn't, which would cause a riot of people screaming they'd been used a test lab rats.

so.... does the PS3 have any good exclusive FPS's yet?

@ MazzingerZ - Can i have some of what ever you are on - sounds good.

Haze is utter garbage, after 4 mins of playing i vomited at the screen in gameplay and visual disgust.

Free Radical for the bin!.

This will still sell. It has "exclusive to PS3" status, y'see.

I'll wait and see if a 360 version appears and get that; no point buying a system for a game. 5-6, maybe...

Three cheers for single speed drives.

Hip hip...

@evilfoxhound

If you still have the demo. Wait for a clearing in the action and have a long slow look around. Especially at the floor and walls. Then seriously ask if it looks any better than say Black on the PS2.

Demo was very meh. I will await the review before maybe buying it much later in a bargain bin.

Still, if it ever came to Xbox 360 the RROD factor would be untold.

Aren't Free Radical made up of ex-Rare employees? If so then it's sad that they've gone from making technically impressive looking games that made the most of their respective hardware to making games that look like Hazy... sorry... Haze. Yeah, I know the gameplay is the most important aspect of a game but this game is running on an expensive console that cost me £425 so I'd have at least appreciated something moderately pretty to gawp at while I'm playing. Still I don't see this game as being anything more than a stop gap before the release of Metal Gear Solid 4 in a few weeks...

The demo was awful.

That's all I really have to say about that.

576p..? Is that all they can muster? I'm playing MUCH better looking games in MUCH higher resolutions on my PC. I can't even remember the last time I had to use such a low resolution. In 1998 perhaps?

Seriously, no matter how you twist it, that's weak. REALLY weak.

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