Haze Comments by Rob Fahey

No one dares to talk shit about my spiritual guru headxlog!

And this games rulez cos it's on a PS3! Read Les posts, he knows better - 360 = corridors; PS3 = something else! see, see! Take that XBOTS!

and the rings! lulz!
edit: end it's bulky, and some more shit! PS3 FTW!

Les, you obviously didn't play BioShock, not even until 2/3 of it, because if you did, you'd know why Jack injected the "unknown substance"...
would you kindly play the game ? (to proprelly support that verbosity towards it, that's all...)

About this game I have no feelings at all, just find it funny the "going to happen/not going to happen" thingy, which is a weirdo way to hype a game, and I suspect it's not working.

"I'm buying this day one, because as a PS3 gamer, this 'll be loads of fun"

That sentence makes no sense ;)

@Xerx3s

You haven't put headbog on ignore yet? Get with the program man!

As for Haze. I was never interested in it from the start so I may rent it for a weekend. Seems like one of those love it or hate it style games.

"Right on queue"

Right on cue.

Fixed.

@Les

Jesus dude, did you even play the game?

"Didn’t get to the end of the demo..."

Ah, that explains EVERYTHING.

If you had actually played to the end of the game ALL your questions would have been answered. As it is, you just look rather foolish.

well i think haze is looking and sounding fantastic. shame i'll never get to play it unless they do in fact do a 360 release after all...

have some faith in free radical!

Give the game a chance people.

"and from seeing the way he dresses and shaves, he's probably happy where he is now."
That doesn't make any sense also, but hilarious, nevertheless...

Q2 is a corridor shooter. Played it this week again. It still is by some margin one of the best games ever made
This is why people pay no attention to your opinions.

Spent 3 hours playing this co-op yesterday. Dull dull dull. Lots more boring corridors full of the same 2 types of enemy than Rob's initial preview hinted at. Awful reuse of the same 5-6 stock phrases from soldiers around you. Average gameplay and none of the impressive and dramatic set piece goodness we've been spoiled with in recent shooters like Halo, CoD and BioShock. Really DULL DULL DULL!

My prediction : 6/10

One of those marks will be a consolation mark "because it's from the team that brought us Timesplitters"

@ tnomad :where did you play it man if i may ask?Just curious...

Well guys,as many people mentioned already, in this day and age of constant "i shoot you, you shoot me" in first person, something has to be REALLY special (or extremely ultra fun) to make an impact on the already over saturated gamers (fps ones mostly) .

Unfortunately, haze doesn't seem to provide/present absolutely anything new, and even from a gameplay standpoint, most previews have been extremely unenthusiastic and "meh" about it.

It's a shame because i really want it to be good,never bought the hype, it's just that i need a good "smooth", story driven shooter with co-op (had enough of Halo3 and COD4), thing is though, i can feel than even F.R knows that the game is destined to fail, it's just a gut feeling i have...

"I'm buying this day one, because as a PS3 gamer, this 'll be loads of fun"
That sentence makes no sense ;)

Hm... you're actually right.

Point is, it's Free Radical Design ffs, they haven't let gamers down in over 10 years.
I'm not saying this game will break new grounds, but it'll be somewhere between good and very good.

Drop in, drop out 4 player co-op is new for me, so I'm looking forward to that the most.

Looks okayish, nothing special.

Give me Timesplitters 4!

As a 360 owner I'm a bit jealous, to be quite honest.

Anyone with the track record of Free Radical (I have owned and loved Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Timesplitters 2. In fact I STILL play Timesplitters via my Wii) should in my mind be making a top class game. A bit gutted it won't be on 360

I like the Co-op methodology, thats quite good. I haven't got the time to sit down and set up Co-op games, so being able to dive into one would be ace. I think RSV2 does this does it not? Really hoping that Resistance2 also follows this path.

Graphically, its looking nice, storywise it seems ok. Will it be good or will it just be average? The big questions there.

Sadly I've just sat and read through the ign feature from some bod who has got to play MGS4 right through and that seems a hell of alot more tempting at the moment.

@Les

'- You find a syringe and without knowing what it’ll do inject it immediately into your arm'

I remember this, thought it was bloody hilarious; totally broke suspension of disbelief.


On Haze: Preview told be bugger all really, in fact it's a bit worrying when a previewer 'reserves judgement', But then, I loved Timesplitetrs, so fingers crossed.

3rd person, well at least it offers a VAGUE bit of difference. I mean the camera is slapped behind Drake on Uncharted and that certainly doesn't play like an FPS.

Might give this a go on my PS3; it'll give the thing a rest from Super Stardust! :D

@Prodigy_BE - "Point is, it's Free Radical Design ffs, they haven't let gamers down in over 10 years. I'm not saying this game will break new grounds, but it'll be somewhere between good and very good."

Free Radical did make Second Sight though and that was poorly received if I remember correctly plus TimeSplitters 3 got some mixed reviews. There's a possibility that Haze might be a disappointment but I'm quietly hopeful that it won't be.

"I remember this, thought it was bloody hilarious; totally broke suspension of disbelief. "

It's explained if you actually play the full game. Comments like this only make you look like a tit, just like Les.

@headbog Haze = not a 360 shoter so therefore shit.
Wait for the 360 fanbois to turn up and state how meh this is.

I have all 3 next gen machines and still this game just looks so generic. Give me the corridors of Bioshock any day @ least the gameplay was good.

Considering Timesplitters, will there be bots in the Haze multiplayer?

"Jesus, Les. It's a game, not real life."

I'm fully aware of that. But when a game is all about atmosphere and story, I expect the story itself to be consistent and convincing in relation to the game world. Look at HL. Totally ridiculous story but game world and story are perfectly merged, soaking you in. And if there's something that isn't consistent (like dying but being able to continue the game) don't try to window-dress it (as with the vitachambers) unless you can do it in a way that makes perfect sense in the game world.

Jesus Les, you've not even played it so you have absolutely no friggin' idea what you are talking about.

Would you kindly STFU.

"If you had actually played to the end of the game ALL your questions would have been answered. As it is, you just look rather foolish."

Might be but a game has to be enticing to me from the get-go. It's like with a good book. If it doesn't capture me in the first few chapters I'm not going to labour through it just so I can experience a finale that puts everything in its place. Bioshock did nothing for me while HL grabbed me from the start.

But I must say that I am intrigued by an apparently perfectly reasonable explanation for it all. That's quite an achievement. I guess it's more the sort of story for people that love detectives (which I hate).

"from the get-go"
From the "get-go" is one thing, but you seem to opinate from the synopse of the games' box. And you love to hate, it seems.

And believe me, it has nothing to do with detectives.

I don't get where the hype for this title comes from. It seems like a generic FPS to me.

I must admit though I am having problems getting excited about yet another FPS these days. There just seems to be a new FPS every few weeks these days and it’s all beginning to feel like shovelware.

Everyone is knocking old Les but remember just because he didn't like the Bioshock doesn't mean it's a bad game (although you're reasons for not liking it are pretty weak Les!). He sites HL as great in one post but personally I found HL2 so dull to play I couldn't finish it.

Horses for courses people, try not to take it personally or you'll end up like Headbog! :)

>"As a 360 owner I'm a bit jealous, to be quite honest."

Don't worry, you have your own average, over-hyped exclusive from a team that brought you goldeneye, it's called "Perfect Dark: Zero" (the zero standing for zero out of 10).

Yeah, you're right, I tend to get a bit personal when it goes BioShock, because I love it so much. Well, I do.

Of course, he's entitled not to like (I wouldn't entitle him to "hate" though) it, but I wish he didn't mention the "reasons".

hear my man! everyone who has a 360 (fuck! lulz! and shit! we hate it! hate it!!!) doesn't deserve to play on mighty PS3!

Hold my hand headxlog, lets sing!

and RRoD, and bad stuff allover!


edit: XBOTs are bad, or worse, or else! XBOTS! lulz!

'I'm taking the piss out of all those XBOT fanbois who piss on Haze but go gaga over Gears.'

To be fair though Headbog, Gears is actually out and has been enjoyed by many, whereas Haze isn't and hasn't. Personally, I hope it's great, but in the current climate, there doesn't seem to be much about it to get aroused over. Apart from it being on the PS3, if you own one and therefore don't have much else in the same genre to shout about.

@headbog

It was never on pre-order as I did not like the first one so I really doubt the second one is going to sway my opinion.

wait a minute while headtlog is using my Sony dildo.

pre-edit: XBOTs! lulz! and Gears is bad, and more bad shit from xbox.

Haze is shaping up to be a very solid PS3 exclusive, visually it's got its own unique style, with four player co-op (Haze's campaign will be a blast with three friends online), big levels, lots of vehicle driving, turret firing settings and some spectacular set pieces these game is gonna rock, the jungle scenery is much welcome too... we're getting a bit bored of identikit Unreal Engine 3 shooters, so Haze's aesthetic should prove to be a selling point, it should keep PS3-owning shooters happy until big-hopes Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 arrive later in the year... to me, Haze is a must buy and will place somewhere between 8/10 and 10/10.

you can't give a game a rating until its released!
Thats almost as bad as the swarms of people who reviewed Fifa 08 1/5 with their review argument essentially being "wait until PES2008 comes out, that will kick arse"... and then PES2008 turning out to be a total travesty.

I am guessing Apologie has got that from a PR release for the game. It does not seem like the sort of thing an actually person would write.

I do agree though that visually the game does have a unique style apart from Halo, Timeshift, Turok etc. and every other game where you play a space marine. Hold on what does unique mean again?

"Jesus Les, you've not even played it so you have absolutely no friggin' idea what you are talking about.

Would you kindly STFU."

Don't really understand what everybody gets so worked up about. I played (I guess a significant) part of the demo and didn't like what was in there. It didn't click with me and whatever story devices the creators have worked out later on in the game come too late for me. Maybe it's a game for which a demo shouldn't be released. For me it was all poor story, unbelievable world and ugly engine (loved the sound though). No reason for me to get back to. There's plenty to play so I'm not going to labour myself through a game that I don't like instantly (especially if it didn't cost me any money as in a demo; had I bought the full game I might very well have pushed through).

But back to Haze: I don't think I have the stomach to play through another FPS after HL for quite some time. Have played too much of them recently. And a Free Radical game without monkeys... I'm curious how they handle serious story telling.

Is this coming out for the 360 as well? Its just that I went to the release dates on this very site, and Haze is penciled in for the 360 as well? For some reason I though this was PS3 only...

Man, I've got such a Pariah vibe off this.

@Les

If Bioshock just wasn't for you, then fair enough. No one can tell you were wrong not to like it. But if you are dismissing it because certain things in the opening areas don't seem to make sense, you are honestly cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Rent it and give it another blast. It may still not do it for you, but it may just impress the socks off you once it gets going. No harm in spending £4 and finding out.

This looks a lot like some sort of a timeshift - turok - dark sector thing (generic stuff with a cool few gimmicks inside, be it time-bending or stealth killing dinosaurs), but it has coop, and a good coop mode can really turn an average game into a good/very good one.

... Now I'm gonna copy this sentence and paste it into all the incoming Killzone 2 - RFOM 2 - Socom 3 - GeOW2 comment threads, ah ah ah ah. Wait, does Killzone 2 actually have coop? If it doesn't, my devious plan falls apart!

"It does not seem like the sort of thing an actual person..."

That seems like a fair summary of Apologie to me. More sock than person.


@Les

"Don't really understand what everybody gets so worked up about."

The thing that people were getting stroppy about (me included of course) is that your main critisisms were of aspect of the game progression that appeared not to make sense, too many coincidences and unexplained actions and so on (you now seem to have moved onto saying it looked crap too, which smacks of diversion of a little, though your opinion is valid). IF you had played the game, it would have all made sense. That is the key thing that got people upset.

Many said at the time that the demo was not an ideal introduction to the game, because without the wider context it just didn't come across "right". I would agree, though I rather liked the demo and didn't worry too much about the suspension of disbelief it demanded.


I do agree with many that say it got a bit repetative btw. I'm not singing its praises blindly. For me the repetition was not a deal breaker and I still enjoyed playing the game to completion. There were still strong moments throughout most of the title, and no game is perfect.

I've got such a deus ex 2: invisible wars about this.

@ Les

I didn't like bioshock either, but your comments are still ridiculous. I mean really, attacking early elements of the story, without completing the story is absurd. That's like playing the first half of shenmue, and claiming how ridiculous it is for some mysterious chinesse guy to fight and kill your dad over a freakin mirror? Or playing the first quarter of MGS and saying the storyline is ridiculous because because why is there a cyborg ninja in it? (the storyline become ridiculous from MGS2 onwards).

You can attack the gaming mechanics you got from the demo, sure. But you can't attack a story you haven't played.

You mst have a serious problem suspending your beliefs.
You remind me of a friend whom I watched cloverfield. From beginning till end, he constantly mocked why the guy would still be recording from his camcorder, when the real thing to do was to just run away. WELL IF HE STOPPED RECORDING, THERE WOULDN'T BE A FREAKIN FILM TO WATCH NOW, WOULD THERE?

Am I the only one wondering how many controllers this "the bodybuilder" bloke wears out a year?

If this is crap I may* cry.

*will

@darren
"Free Radical did make Second Sight though and that was poorly received if I remember correctly plus TimeSplitters 3 got some mixed reviews."

Um, no.