Harmonix's Rob Kay Comments by Ellie Gibson
On the price, DLC and more. But mainly the price.
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Der_tolle_Emil
09/04/08 @ 13:32
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Eurogamer: Perhaps Eurogamer readers could pop round yours to have a little go and see if it's worth it?
Nice one. Too bad he doesn't really say anything regarding the price but as a developer I didn't expect that he actually could say something relevant. |
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soylent_grey
09/04/08 @ 13:36
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Blaming VAT is possibly the worst excuse I have ever heard to justify something's price.
What are we supposed to do, turn around and blame Mr Brown for Rock Band's inflated price? |
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OmagnusPrime
09/04/08 @ 13:39
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We wanted to make sure that when we released Rock Band in the UK, we did it right. There's a few components to that. One is getting lots of UK-centric music on there, and I think we've done a good job of that.
Sorry, what? Are we talking about the pitiful four tracks that we're getting for a mere £80? |
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thefilthandthefury
09/04/08 @ 13:41
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"But I can say for sure, we've tried to set up a situation where people can not feel ripped off playing the game, and actually feel like it's well worth their investment. I'm going to sit here and say I think it's well worth the money. "
A hearty LOL at you sir! Absolute drivel. This interview just made him look like a moron. |
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"But I can say for sure, we've tried to set up a situation where people can not feel ripped off playing the game, and actually feel like it's well worth their investment. I'm going to sit here and say I think it's well worth the money."
Well Rob, I'm going to sit here and say that your a CUNT. It probably is well worth the money and the investment if you live in the US especially when they look at how much we have to pay! |
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Prodigy_BE
09/04/08 @ 13:42
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Seriously, they should not do these kind of interviews.
That guy is totally talking out of his ass. Now even more people will let Rock Band pass them by. And is it just me, or are other people also thinking that shipping this from US to Europe will kost you 100x more than with a regular game. As the gigantic Rock Band box can store about a hundred DVD casings? If I where him, that would be me excuse :-) |
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Eurogamer, used my line!
I'm really getting sick and tired of all these companies screwing us europeans over. ^^ http://www.eurogamer.net/article_discuss... |
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It is not really the dev's place to defend the indefensible as pushed on them by some greed-ridden corporate.
But I really don't buy any of the arguments, I listed yesterday 2 example of other products that are more expensive but in a sensible and expected way for exactly the reasons stated. I unfortunately will never get the chance to play it at a friends house and see if I like it, because all my friends have more than an ounce of sense so will not be buying it either. Maybe someone from EA or MTV would like to come and comment from a position of slightly more information? |
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thefilthandthefury
09/04/08 @ 13:45
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"I unfortunately will never get the chance to play it at a friends house and see if I like it, because all my friends have more than an ounce of sense so will not be buying it either."
Same here. I don't have a single friend who's interested in it now. The backlash yesterday was hard but deserved. |
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toythatkills
09/04/08 @ 13:45
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"Sorry, what? Are we talking about the pitiful four tracks that we're getting for a mere £80?"
Three, actually. And it's £90 more. Brilliant. |
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OmagnusPrime
09/04/08 @ 13:46
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Ellie: Are you genuinely saying you would pay £180 for Rock Band? I'm curious, do you genuinely think that they are right to be asking this amount of money?
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Midnight Raven
09/04/08 @ 13:46
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To sum up the pricing discussion: there is absolutely no reason at all why Europeans should have to pay roughly twice as much for the same experience than North Americans. No surprise there, then.
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Like I said on the news story, it's a little unfair to blame this guy - or indeed Harmonix - for their publisher's pricing decision. I actually think he deserves more respect for doing the interview and talking about his game in the face of some pretty venomous comments on the internet right now.
Personally, I do think £180 is too expensive and I'm pretty sure I won't be buying Rock Star. And each and every gamer can choose in exactly the same way whether they think the experience is worth it or not. On the plus side, if it is an absolute flop over here at £180, you can bet the price will be cut pretty swiftly, so I think it's in everyone's interests to hold back a little bit longer and see what happens. |
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This debacle has encouraged me to make my first ever post. I've read most of the comments on the other news threads about this and completely agree with everyone. Just want to re iterate that the price is simply outrageous. The interview still gives no good reason why the price is so dire.
I hope it bombs, bigstyle. |
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captainrentboy
09/04/08 @ 13:47
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Right, that's it I'm convinced. I'm buying 8, one for each room in the house.
That might very well have been the lousiest effort at justifying the rediculous price tag possible. Definitely not convinced. They're just greedy fucks, hoping to get as much moolah out of early adopters as possible. |
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AwesomeWells
09/04/08 @ 13:49
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"But I can say for sure, we've tried to set up a situation where people can not feel ripped off playing the game"
In which case matey, you've failed utterly. |
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I was looking forward to getting the full Rock Band package but NO WAY IN HELL I'm paying almost double the US price and 6 month after the US launch. There's no way to defend that inflated price... VAT and taxes??... stop insulting us!
I'm gonna buy the game only for 360 and play it with the GH3 guitar... too bad because the drums gameplay really looked fun. |
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Progguitarist
09/04/08 @ 13:53
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Theres obviously no way he would come out and admit that its overpriced. If it does sell badly it'll be a very hard slice of humble pie to swallow.
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Just to rub salt into the wound they're essentially saying you'll have to buy the innevitable sequel in order to play the online world tour mode which the dev says himself was intended to be one of the key focuses of the game. So it's missing a core component, has a grand total of 4 uk specific tracks, we'll pay double the money for our downloadable tracks as MS points handily ignore exchange rate differences AND it costs more than a new console- SOLD!
/gets chequebook out |
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nickthegun
09/04/08 @ 13:55
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The 'genuinely great experience' line could be trotted out if they had it up for £1000.
Its a good game and a shit load of money, you cant really get around that, especially when the forced bundle in the US might have been annoying to some, but was actually within the grasp of the average person. |
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4thVariety
09/04/08 @ 13:59
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100% pure hubris and ignorance. I just use one of my many choices and do not buy the game for that price. It's not like Europeans earn twice the money of Americans so there is an experience Harmonix can keep for themselves.
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TheDudesRug
09/04/08 @ 14:00
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The guy doesn't even realise he's having the piss ripped out of him all the way through the interview.
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Even though I know the developers have very little say on the pricing of the game, and he really had no other option than to defend the pricing, Rob Kay still came across as a total asshole in that interview. He didn't really answer any questions.
I wonder what Microsoft is thinking about EA completely fucking up their timed exclusive with this ridiculous pricing. |
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Blaming the VAT? Get real! And if Rock Band really is a long-lasting game then why don't you make a slight return, or even a loss on the instruments, safe in the knowledge that the ever expanding DLC tracks will bring in the coins and profit?
Or can we expect Rock Band 2 in the (U.S.) shops by Xmas and Joe Europe will be footing the bill? Jog on, and well done again for getting into bed with EA. |
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MightyMouse
09/04/08 @ 14:04
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@MikeN
Even as a huge fan of Steps, I'd suggest that line was sarcasm. He wasn't really going to say anything more about the price so there was no point in haranguing him over it. As it was the interview told us that we'll probably have to buy another iteration of rock band in some form or another to get a lot of the core features, so it did give information. P.S. I'm not a huge fan of Steps. |
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