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Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese
Microsoft has begun looking for brainy people to join its Halo Studio and build "an engine that will power future experiences for the next generation of gaming platforms".
That's according to a job ad for a program manager, which suggests work on the next Xbox may be further along than we had thought.
"Microsoft's new Halo Studio team is looking for a technical and highly talented program manager to work with an engineering team to help define the next generation of gaming software technology. As part of a next generation team, you'll be instrumental in helping to lead the development of the engine that will power future experiences for the next generation of gaming platforms," reads the vacancy advert, spotted by Game Guru.
"You will work closely with the software architect and the senior development team behind this critical new effort. You will have the opportunity to collaborate with artists, designers, and other creative functions within MGS to ensure that we are building the best possible platform for content creators.
"You will also work to ensure we are building collaborative efforts with expertise available across the company, including the Xbox platform team and Microsoft Research," adds the vacancy.
That Halo Studio will presumably be the one behind the mysterious Peter Jackson projects, which we expect to be a trilogy of episodic games based on Master Chief and friends.
Our most recent glimpse was a job advert in August looking for a "superstar" creative director to work with "key Hollywood talent" and bridge the gap between storytelling and interactive games.
Perhaps it will have motorbikes.
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BadBoyBonner
11/09/08 @ 13:58
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Hopefully none of the original Halo 3 engine coders will be working on this new one - perhaps this one will even run @ 720P with anti-aliasing - who knows, but hopefully it will not look any worse than Halo 3.
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MasterNameless
11/09/08 @ 14:04
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As a few others have said in the past, as much as I can't really afford a new system - my head, and my wallet, both scream, "NO!". Although, in the interest of anticipating, and eventually, unwrapping that new toy, my heart screams, "YES, YES, YES, GIMME NOW!". I just love that build up to, and eventually getting my filthy hands on a new console!
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BadBoyBonner
11/09/08 @ 14:05
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Wish the new machine was available now as BOTH my 360 have just gone RROD on me. Seems I have gone from the top 38% to the bottom 62% in one fell swoop.
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seasidebaz
11/09/08 @ 14:08
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PlatformS?
What's MS playing at now? @badboy: The sound + network guys did an awesome job. @mattyd: We all know the new Xbox is coming out within a couple of years. |
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ParanoidZombie
11/09/08 @ 14:09
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Xbox 1080 is definitely a couple years away IMO, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they will stop supporting x360 as soon as the new one hits the shelves. If microsoft manages to build a powerful (full 1080p with a 1080 gig hard drive, hence the x1080 name, brilliant isn't it?), RELIABLE piece of hardware, with good BC that supports x360's achievements, this could be big.
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Psychotext
11/09/08 @ 14:15
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mingster: 10 year lifecycle doesn't mean 10 year release cycle. There's a new PS released roughly ever 6 years. A new Nintendo roughly every 5. Right now we don't have a release cycle for MS... the last one was 4 years.
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I don't like this, people are starting to really kick into a second wind with this gen of games and there will be more steps up beyond that. Think about how good GTA3 was, then to have GTA:VC come along with double the size and half the loading... and then GTA:SA which was massive with no loading!
Don't want this cheap PC-esque route of choosing to go for new hardware for improvement rather than getting some lastability out of the software. Unless the new machines cost £200 or less for the top spec, nothing left out bundles. I doubt consumers who have just bought a machine would be happy, parental purchases too. Plus what would happen on the development front? Equal focus on new and old Xboxes? Or just dump the old audience and force them into an upgrade? |
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rhinoxious
11/09/08 @ 14:17
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The success of teh 360 should mean that MS have an interest in continued support, even beyond there next console's release. Plus Arcade title will probbaly be released to be compatible on both formats, to exploit the far larger userbase.
Be interesting to see how MS mange the transition from 360 onward. But it's all far too early for this kind of talk, the best of the 360/PS3 gen is yet to come. I mean look at the PS2 swansong years, some real classics there. |
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michaelius
11/09/08 @ 14:20
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Yay and then we will have new tidal wave of stupid fps like on x360 in early years :D
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sickpuppysoftware
11/09/08 @ 14:21
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@ParanoidZombie - Why would they carry on supporting the 360 when the next gen is released. As soon as the 360 came out they dropped the xbox like a hot potato. A hot potato covered in dog shit. With razorblades sticking out of it. Covered in AIDS.
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i always thought we would see a new xbox by 2010 - 2011 and to be honest i am looking forward to it....Paying £300 is a bargin compared to updating a graphic card in a gaming pc. paying £500 every two year to keep up with the top games is a joke even though the games are cheaper...ROLE ON NEXT GEN IS WHAT I SAY!!!!
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Psychotext
11/09/08 @ 14:25
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sickpuppysoftware: They had no choice but to drop the xbox, they didn't own the rights to any of the tech inside and couldn't cost reduce it (which is why they lost around $5bn). See "The xbox 360 uncloaked" by Takahashi. 360 is a different story as they own the tech (and they're now making a little profit on it).
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Must be a 'little' profit can't be much if they now sell the basic 360 for £120 how much of that can be profit? £20 at most.
I'm sure your LIVE accounts will carry over to the new machine and they may even do backward compatibilty of the LIVE downloaded games. Achievements? Hmm i think they will start from scratch for the new consol. |
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It takes 2-3 years to make this new Halo game. So if they want it as a launch game they better start soon. By the time they have a team up and running it will be end of the year. So new XBox in 2011.. just like a new Wii and a new PS4 since by that time PCs will make console games look like pong and PC devs want to port to console for the extra $$$.
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bog_head,
'Look at it this way: If the us price cut doesnt do the trick then they are already on a downward curve, and last year was the real peak for the 360. ' The price-cut is doing the trick Microsoft: Xbox 360 sales double since price cuts - Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/11/micro... |
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'Look at it this way: If the us price cut doesnt do the trick then they are already on a downward curve, and last year was the real peak for the 360. ' The price-cut is doing the trick Microsoft: Xbox 360 sales double since price cuts - Engadget One weekend does not a trend make, though. You'd expect an overall rise in any case, but methinks it only qualifies as doing the trick if it's persistent and significant over the long-term. But it's about bloody time we had a console price war. EDIT; the double was from the previous week. But did the previous week see a drop in sales after the forthcoming price cut became commonly known?
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Looking at this story now, it's easy to believe that Microsoft released the Xbox 360 so early, and rushed (68% failure rate anyway?) in order to get their NEXT gen system out and make the PS3 look old hat.
I bet all those Microsoft fanboys are just overjoyed how their money's been used just to allow MS to monopolise yet another market. The Xbox was a trojan horse to get the brand into our homes, the 360 has built on that and now they want to topple Sony with hyperbole, spin and marketing exercises - of which the 360 is clearly one. |
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evilfox: and? For a company the size of MS (or Sony or Nintendo) is it odd to be preparing the next-gen of a system 2-3 years ahead?
A couple of months ago some analysts said it was odd that nobody wasn't yet doing anything regarding next-gen... now what? Regarding migrations: my Live account migrated from Xbox 180, and Major Nelson said they wanted to put Achivements on the "Originals" but it was too complex, so my guess everything will be migrated. schnide : since it's not your money you shouldn't be worried (or pissed). And I wonder how many "markets" MS monopolises ?
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Price cut + double the sales in september + new ppl being hired for "next gen" = fire sale for current (e)xbox360 and new Xbox withing the next 2 years, maybe end of 2009 ;)
platforms : maybe they are doing something similar to the PSP... or morph the Zune into a portable Xbox360 ;)
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BadBoyBonner
11/09/08 @ 15:38
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@Xerx3's
"who knows, but hopefully it will not look any worse than Halo 3. " Yeah because H3 didn't look crispy clear with awesome sceneries. Oh wait... Not sure if your being sarcsatic or not |
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TheNinkyNonk
11/09/08 @ 15:38
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A new Xbox? Bring it on. I'm bored of this gen's graphics already.
MORE POWER!!! |
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@evilfoxhound
"evilfox: and?" And there is still lots of untapped potential in the current-gen consoles. Microsoft have a nasty habbit of jumping ship far too quickly to the next gen, screwing over owners of it's current console. " A nasty habit? You mean like they did from the Xbox to the Xbox360? Or like they did from... when... erm... Regardless of whether or not they switched too quickly with the Xbox (I personally don't think they did) it's hardly a habit. Besides there is absolutely no evidence that the next-gen they're talking about is any time soon. Do people really think that Nintendo and Sony aren't similarly getting ready for the next-gen? Hell, all three are more than likely doing some work on the gen-after-next-gen. |
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"360/PS3 level titles take a long time and a lot of manpower to make, and any upgrade above that will require EVEN MORE EFFORT. So where's the software coming from?"
That's why they are preparing the next one. And I do hope Sony and Nintendo are doing the same. "Based on the fact that the 360 is yet to outsell the original Xbox , I'd say once the next Xbox comes out MS will hit the killswitch just like they did last time. After all, the real platform they are protecting is LIVE" So, and the 20 million 360 users (so far) are going to get a new Xbox the day it comes out just to use Live? Everybody knows those guys at Redmond know nothing about the buisness (they should come here more often), but that's a bit too much, me thinks. |
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With the Wii and DS proving that the least powerful hardware is the most popular, I'm begining to think that this time, 'first to market' will be first to loose.
Consumers have already shown they care little for incremental graphical improvements, and this gen feels like its still not gotten into its full stride. So if MS launch a console before people feel as though the 360 and PS3 have fully run their course, they could run into a wall of consumer apathy. Then all Nintendo and Sony would need to do is keep on trucking with their existing hardware and say "hey, come over to our side, we're here for the long haull". Well maybe, maybe not. But the Wii really shook up how people think about games consoles, and if MS are approaching their new machine with the typical 'bigger, faster, stronger' attitude then I dont think things will go well for them. |
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"the big-name pro's are busy working on the launch lineup for the next platform."
So, they better start asap, as you said it takes a long time. We don't want to have a new system in 2011 with no games (some platform suffered because of that), do we? "One title is hardly a launch lineup is it?" It's not a title, it seems to be a whole studio ("an engine that will power future experiences ").
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I don't get why people think the 360 will be dropped, I'd have assumed the ideal way to launch a new console is with the previous console ticking over with healthy third party licensing fees still pouring in to offset some of the initial losses associated with a console launch. They couldn't do it last time but this time they can. Do people care if first party titles dry up when a new console is released if there is still plenty of third party support? How did Sony handle this with their previuos launches, was it Sony games or third parties that kept the last gen consoles going?
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toy_brain - yeah, now it's generally accepted that the least powerful hardware wins, it's going to be a really interesting next generation as they all compete to have the worst hardware. Xbox 720 will use a single-core celeron CPU, PS4 will be an ultra-slim PS2, and Nintendo will trump them all by releasing a home-console version of the original monochrome Gameboy.
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