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Halo 3 Comments by Rob Fahey

23 September, 2007

The fight, finished.

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tonynibbles
23/09/07 @ 21:40
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I think you are confusing the term 'blockbuster'.
Most blockbuster titles are EA games that go straight in at #1 in the charts on all formats but yet have scores along the lines of mediocre.

I think you mean that PS3 doesn't, to date, have an exclusive retail released game that's scored 10/10 on EG. Which is of course very true but not surprising considering the consoles infancy. Does the Wii have a 10/10? I don't think anyone gives a shit - they're having too much fun dancing round their living room.

Why are you bothering to point this out? Are 10/10's really that important to you?

A good game is a good game you enjoy. Enjoy it.
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DjFlex52
23/09/07 @ 21:41
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Hmm.. After getting Oblivion and Bioshock based on the tens from this very site, I'm not so hyped about ANOTHER suspect ten from the team at Eurogamer..

@mkreku

Even if they're not 10s in your book...were they enjoyable++ and worth buying?
niteninja
23/09/07 @ 21:42
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Xerx3s You are very welcome to your opinions.
I do understand that people work hard to get the reviews done, no doubt about that
Im just saying that having played the game myself, its not perfect and isnt even the best shooter this year in my opinion.
Its getting fantastic review scores and they are not justified.
The map editor is tons of fun the co op is very good, but it doesnt do anything to warrent 10/10 thats just my opinion.
kelly's_h
23/09/07 @ 21:43
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I'm confused, don't know whether I should get Bioshock and Halo 3 or Hour of Victory and Vampire Rain... hmmm
jozz
23/09/07 @ 21:45
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My nan has better retorts than that. Must try harder pacman.
George Roper
23/09/07 @ 21:47
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@tonynibbles

Mr Connery once said 'Winners go home and fuck the prom queen'
IMO
23/09/07 @ 21:47
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WHY WAS I NOT HERE SOONER?! CAN I STILL SET UP A POPCORN STAND?!?!
MrsPacMan
23/09/07 @ 21:48
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where was yours?

Ask your nan to write it for you
Nikanoru
23/09/07 @ 21:48
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Yeah, after the horrible debacle that was EG's FF12 10/10 I'm gonna wait and see on this one, thank you very much!

Is it just me, or is there a specific "10/10 formula" that's just getting really effing boring?
captain-future
23/09/07 @ 21:49
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So better than Halo...?

Wow, that's a landmark review - if I trust one thing (almost) completely it's a solid 10 from Eurogamer.
GuitarWolf
23/09/07 @ 21:51
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wow 4 pages!
kelly's_h
23/09/07 @ 21:51
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I love EG 10/10 games and Jesus.
SHPanda
23/09/07 @ 21:52
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What a joke, I know going off the scores of the two previous Halo games not to pay any attention to the score of this one.
evild_edd
23/09/07 @ 21:59
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As sad as it may sound to some, I've got my pre-order in and am planning a mindnight pickup on tuesday night/wednesday morning. Very happy this got a 10 as it goes to show that the title live up to the hype unlike, for the SP at least, Halo 2.

This game is the one game to rule them all. The SP shall dominate my solo gaming time.... at least until Mass Effect gets released. The MP shall dominate my online gaming for the foreseeable future - though I can only see as far as the Call of Duty 4 release date!!! ;D

///kisses 360 for it's gaming goodness
///prays his 360 doesn't suffer another bout of RRoD
steoc4
23/09/07 @ 21:59
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Heh some nice work from Microsoft on Gametrailers. The first two pages are nothing but videos of Halo 3 Halo 3 Halo 3, and a good thing too because they're now hiding the flood of incredible games that were coming from TGS like Valkyrie of the Battlefield, No More Heroes, MGS, White Knight Story, Patapon and many others that are primarily for Sony and Nintendo consoles, which interest me far more than Halo ever will.

I wonder how much they paid for that.
MrsPacMan
23/09/07 @ 22:03
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@Steoc4

Your pissed because the PS3 pad doesn't rumble when it's stuck up you ass.
Turrican
23/09/07 @ 22:04
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Still no word on the co-op - did you only have the one review copy?

I'm going to pick this up in a few weeks and wait for my 3 friends to do the same for some co-op campaign gaming, not bothered about playing it solo again, especially as I have Bioshock to trudge through first.

And yes, it reads like a 9, in my opinion 10 should offer something truly original or an advancement of gaming, this just looks like a polished version of Halo 2. Of course its their site so its their opinion that counts for the score ;p
saysomething
23/09/07 @ 22:05
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"It may not be gold, but it's the most perfectly polished silver we've seen."

Good enough for me.
KingOfTheC
23/09/07 @ 22:09
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It's 10/10, not 100% (i know that, mathematically that's completely wrong but bear with me). It doesn't mean that nothing can or will ever surpass it.

That kind of thinking would imply that when pong came out any reviewers should've given it a 1/10 in order to leave room for future games reviewers.

A very good review, has made me very excited for wednesday now. I enjoyed halo 2 an awful lot online so for this to get a better score, well, that's just fantastic.

See you guys on wednesday night ;)
mkreku
23/09/07 @ 22:11
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@DjFlex52:

Hmm, if you put it that way, then yeah, I think I got my money's worth from Oblivion after modding it to hell and back.

But Bioshock.. I was so hyped about that game (I absolutely loved System Shock 2, which I consider being a RPG) that I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition for 60€. When the ridiculous endboss fell after appr. 10 hours of gametime I realised the game has no multiplayer, I had already gotten all the plasmids & tonics, photographed every enemy in the game and that there was nothing there to keep me coming back.

And five enemies?! Why didn't the review mention that there were FIVE enemy types in the entire game?? That's a HUGE flaw for me at least. Also, it felt completely dumbed down in the game mechanics department. All character development has been ripped away and the only thing remaining is combat. I liked the story, but it's still just a shooter as compared to System Shock 2 that had a lot more depth.

OK, I should stop ranting now, especially in a thread celebrating Halo 3's great score :) I'll just say that it's sad that I can no longer trust EG's scores to pre-order games. It was so convenient to have a place to go to for trustworthy reviews.
dredd97
23/09/07 @ 22:13
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@MrsPacMan

hey how you doing pissy breath.. still talking bollocks, or did microsoft sack you?
mkreku
23/09/07 @ 22:15
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MrsPacMan: Your pissed because the PS3 pad doesn't rumble when it's stuck up you ass.

That makes it sound like the reason you're happy you have an Xbox 360 is because its pad rumbles when you have it stuck up your arse.. :)
jozz
23/09/07 @ 22:16
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:/

I'd feel a bit bad for him if it weren't for that whole 'being such an utter cretin' thing.
The Bodybuilder
23/09/07 @ 22:17
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I love how so many anti-halo guys have poured in to attack rob's review and the score.

Face it, no matter how much you try, it's not gonna stop things. Halo got a 10. DEAL WITH IT, LOSERS.

Oh, and FYI for those who don't know, halo 3 isn't coming out on the PC (as stated in a recent interview). Halo came to the pc is it was intended for it in the first place, halo 2 was a marketing tool to push windows vista games. There's no reason for doing the same with halo 3.
Waffleaber
23/09/07 @ 22:18
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Wow I can't miss an opportunity to get in on this massive event (the comments thread not Halo)

Can't remember this much fuss when Slitherlink got a 10
MrsPacMan
23/09/07 @ 22:21
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@jozz

Did she write that? Your gran needs some lessons.
xdiesp
23/09/07 @ 22:24
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10/10 after all those complaints?
You have become a disappointment, Eurogamer!
It looked much more like a 7.5-8 review.
jozz
23/09/07 @ 22:24
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Latin
23/09/07 @ 22:24
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All sounds good, initially looking forward to the single player (starting at heroic difficulty) but can't wait to start messing around with Forge
MrsPacMan
23/09/07 @ 22:24
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@mkreku

I like it in any hole, but the xbox 360 controller is by far the best, imho
projectmayhem
23/09/07 @ 22:27
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the "Bungie effect" of loosing fidelity through the campaign in both storyline and actual game design coupled with Microsofts flagship developer coming out with an engine that doesn't push the 360 to its very limits (or maybe it does, and the 360 just isn't as powerful as we want it to be) doesn't scream "10/10" to me.

yes, it's probably a finely crafted experience like the other two. yes, it's very cinematic in a way that no FPS has managed to create previously, or re-create since. yes, it's "cool" to like it. but 10/10 doesn't sit right with me. the flaws listed aren't huge aping issues, but they're enough to dock a point or two from the score.

i suppose Bungie and Microsoft will be pleased with this one. makes them look that bit better on Metacritic when IGN and other such dolts slap 10/10 for no reason after reviewing it like 10 year olds. such a shame EG pulled an IGN...
captain-future
23/09/07 @ 22:27
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Did I miss something? What about the Saved Films feature?
foamy
23/09/07 @ 22:29
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It's 10/10, not 100% (i know that, mathematically that's completely wrong but bear with me). It doesn't mean that nothing can or will ever surpass it.

That kind of thinking would imply that when pong came out any reviewers should've given it a 1/10 in order to leave room for future games reviewers.


I actually laughed. Thx.
xdiesp
23/09/07 @ 22:30
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If Eurogamer starts giving 10s to big productions no matter their faults, then it's no different than Gamespot and IGN which are at least sweeter on the eye.

Where aren't we hostage to fanboys yet? The Escapist?
DjFlex52
23/09/07 @ 22:31
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@DjFlex52:

Hmm, if you put it that way, then yeah, I think I got my money's worth from Oblivion after modding it to hell and back.

And five enemies?! Why didn't the review mention that there were FIVE enemy types in the entire game?? That's a HUGE flaw for me at least. Also, it felt completely dumbed down in the game mechanics department. All character development has been ripped away and the only thing remaining is combat. I liked the story, but it's still just a shooter as compared to System Shock 2 that had a lot more depth.

@mkreku

totally agree, mkreku...they dumbed down the game for consoles which ultimately made depth expendable. Just be glad SS2 was made for the PC :)

I wish Bioshock could be modded as Oblivion was. Thats what intrigues me about H3. For a console game, Bungie gave console gamers these semi-modding functions that no other console game in history has even attempted....with Forge. I'm curious to see what evolves from it.
ExitGhost
23/09/07 @ 22:37
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Halo 3 deserves a 10/10 more than Bioshock imo. Bioshock was a amazing game...for a few days. The last boss and ending was a damp squid, the last 20% of the game felt rushed and lacked the quality of the first half of the game (even the developers said they spent most of the time on the first three levels) .I'm not going to hate on Bioshock anymore as I like the game, (enemy variety lolz)

but if you want to complain about perfect scores, go piss on the Bioshock and FFXII scores before Halo 3, as that deserves the score it got here. Yes I know you're sick of hearing about Halo 3, I think we all are by now, but that's no reason to troll the fuck out of it.
gaijin
23/09/07 @ 22:39
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my 360 bricked today.

perfect timing

:-l
mkreku
23/09/07 @ 22:40
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@MrsPacMan: Man, you must have a huge ass.
Eighthours
23/09/07 @ 22:44
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...and this is why we just dropped scores.

For Christ's sake, guys: THE TEXT. Concentrate on the text!
ExitGhost
23/09/07 @ 22:46
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And about all this talk of a PC version, Shane Kim has said there will not be a PC version as far as plans at the moment go. He said they've been down that road with Halo and Halo 2, and there is no need to do it with Halo 3.
morriss
23/09/07 @ 22:47
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No scores ftl.
GrandpaUlrira
23/09/07 @ 22:47
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I thought this was reading like a 9. Good review!
projectmayhem
23/09/07 @ 22:48
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@xdiesp:

the escapist can be overly critical to stand out from the crowd. no fanboys for sure, but they can bitch and moan like a hormonal woman when they want to. that said, zero punctuation is hilarous.

@Eighthours:

it's the fact that the TEXT critiqued some serious flaws in the game that should have been addressed since halo and halo2, then went on to give it the "perfect" score that's the problem...
Ace_McCloud
23/09/07 @ 22:50
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I hate Halo, WAA WAA WAA!!

Shut up and go home ffs, you're boring.

For the record, this "no game can be ten out of ten" argument is ridiculous. Why the fuck not? Who says 10/10 is perfection that cannot be bettered? Do you say the same when film reviewers give a film 5/5? The reviewer states in his opinion it's the best FPS of its type yet. Some other FPS's have gotten a 9, so surely if they are to be bettered then we need that hallowed 10?....

Fuck it, it's all just semantics, 10/10 should not be untouchable, what's the point in having a number you can't use!!?!?!?
ExitGhost
23/09/07 @ 22:51
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People live for scores though, it's what makes sport interesting. Take away the score and Eurogamer would go down the shitter pretty quickly.

99% of the people here didn't even read the review before getting to page 4, looked at the score and posted here. The score is what they've been waiting for, fuck the review.

:)

I love Eurogamer reviews really, very well written, and I agree with the score...40% of the time.
Isere
23/09/07 @ 22:55
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I swear some people around here would give up something they dearly love, only if somehow they could cause another person grief. Which is quite sad, just like these individuals who sit on both sides of the 360/PS3 fence waiting for the other party to die.

Not happening.

@MrsPacMan

Since you asked.....

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Haze
Unreal Tournament III
Infamous
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Heavy Rain
Eight Days
Getaway
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
White Knight Story
flOwer
echochrome
Afrika
Aqua
Gran Turismo 5
MotorStorm 2
PAIN
WarDevil
God of War 3
Rockstar's PS3 Exclusive Project
Team Ico's Next Project

..... are the ones that interest me.



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ExitGhost
23/09/07 @ 22:55
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Gonna pick this up next week along with Sega rally, that massive Sega Rally advert here on Eurogamer is making my pants wet,

mission accomplished Eurogamer.
Latin
23/09/07 @ 22:57
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@projectmayhem

What "serious" flaws are mentioned? The reviewer clearly says that the flaws are not serious. Here is the actual quote:

"the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down"

Once again show me where serious flaws are mentioned.

Get over it, the game is actually good, why does this bother you?
JayeM
23/09/07 @ 22:58
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Great review. Well written. :)
ExitGhost
23/09/07 @ 22:59
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Don't mind them, Halo haters can spin something to the point that would make Alistair campbell blush. They gambled all on Halo 3 flopping and lost. Listening to them you would think Halo 3 fired a missile straight into their houses which killed their parents and left all the babies crippled for life.

Halo leaves a strong impression on some people, for some good, for others it's like the devil himself has possesed their soul. These people we call Halo haters or "PC gamers"
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