Halo 3 Comments by Rob Fahey

@niteninja

Why don;t you pay for your games and then maybe you can comment on them. And EG are not a site for giving in to hype.

Another Halo article? Are you serious EG? Jsus christ this site was built for the Halo Hype machine!

/actually wants this game and is jealous

Holy shit, that did NOT read like a 10. I was expecting a 9, and MAYBE an 8 (which is what Edge will give it).

What exactly makes a 10 these days at EG?

Dammit. I haven't played the first two, and can't be bothered. Will it ruin the third one not to have done?

@Yoss. :(

Interesting review, and nice to get it hot off the press. I was hoping for some details in one of those four (!) pages regarding the co-op mode in the main campaign, as that's what I'll be buying it for, but I can appreciate it may not have been possible to play through the whole thing again in co-op in time to finish the review.

Would be nice to get an addendum once you have, perhaps?

@ Owen.

It didn't really read like a 10 at all, but perhaps that was due to the restrictions Ms placed on reviewers. It's possible that Shinji wasn't able to discuss everthing that he liked about the game.

Unexpected, but awesome :)

Jamhead: no.

Covenant: baddies trying to kill humans and destroy earth

Flood: uber-baddies that the Halo ring was designed to imprison and, should they escape, destroy - by killing all known life across the universe, kind of a 'blanket bombing'.

Master Chief: cyborg soldier on our side.

That's all you need to know.

Faults seem bigger at a games launch, like you say. As time passes you sometimes look back on games that were treated harshley and say, you know what that game was pretty effing good. I hated Raiden with a passion in MGS2 when I played it all those years ago, but now looking back he was actually a pretty neat character and is the one thing I remember about that game more than anything else.

Whatever bad is being said about Halo 3, if it's small like the EG review says, then it will soon be forgotten and people will just get on with the business of fragging each other until Xbox 720.

EG not a site for giving in to hype?
Have you even read the review.

gaselite - I don't think Halo 3 is directly comparable to Bioshock, because they aim for totally different goals. Bioshock is all about the narrative and atmosphere; Halo 3 is all about the direct minute to minute gameplay. Each one succeeds wonderfully in their own arena. You can't realistically slam Halo 3 for failing to do what Bioshock did; that's like saying football is crapper than F1 because it has less cars in it.

That said - to my mind, Halo 3 is the more polished product - I would have struggled to score Bioshock higher than 9 had I reviewed it, just because the second half is so weak in places.

Polar: since when have EG ever ever EVER been restricted by a software company? Surely they can say what they like about the game?

I didn't know Rob was Shinji...

Also, niteninja has clearly worked out the truth of it - I'm now being paid off by Sony, Nintendo AND Microsoft. I have been forced to open a Scrooge McDuck style vault to hold all the money, just so I can swim around in it occasionally :)

@Yoss. :(

Yeah it's kinda a bitch, but it's self-inflicted both for practical reasons, and because I really want to dedicate the time and attention to my course. I guess this is what being a boring grown-up feels like.

And can all PC elitist tools get out of here with your Halo 3 doesn't deserve 10,

They said it is as perfect a FPS as you're going to find, with some of the best designed levels ever made.

So eff off.

I honestly only ever found Bioshock weak once, and I can't even remember when that was. Whereas Halo is gagging to be found 'weak' if all it is is one long shooting alley.

Still, I suppose you mark based on it's own merits and what you personally like, as opposed to relative to other games.

Still. 10?

Really really really read like a 9, and only just.

I think the PC elitists will just buy a copy when it comes out for PC...

\o/ No more playing as the Arbiter. Thank fcuk for that
Good review Shinji

Any news on co-op play?

Well it did say that the reviewers weren't able to discuss the story at all (as did other reviews). Perhaps some of the best set pieces and the like are directly tied into the story?

I thought it read more like a 9/10 but I don't think that a game can ever be perfect and as far as I'm concerned 10/10 marks should be given to games that are the best in their class. Rob clearly believes it is.

Owen-B - there's actually a little truth to that, we did get asked by Microsoft not to mention or allude to a large number of things in the plot of the game, so I can't go into that area in any depth. Their reasoning is sound though, and spoilers aren't something anyone will thank us for. It's an unusual restriction on a review though.

That said, I'm surprised you think it reads lower than 10 - if anything, I think the criticisms I make are largely made with the caveat that I don't think they're valid points to mark down the game for. It sets out to achieve an objective, and achieves it near-flawlessly - and it's a wonderful, wonderful game that people are going to be playing enthusiastically for years. That's a 10, clear as day.

This review isn't even 2 hours old and already has 125 posts and hummin

I'm predicting this thread surpasses Bioshock's in record time ;)

Shinji We both agree its a good game,but its far from perfect.
Its not even in the same league as Crysis.

@ Shinji.

I think people rate the score of a review based on how much txt is given to plus points versus minus points. As you say, people will find fault with anything, so it's only reasonable to assume a 10/10 review would detail the flaws of a game. Having said that I thought your last post was more positive that the review itself for some reason.

OH NOES THE GAME HASNT GOT THE EXACT SCORE I WANTED IT TO HAVE I MUST COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMEONE ELSES OPINION GRRRRRRR

That review had 8/10 all over it.

Oh thank god. Can't wait till tuesday to get my copy.

Still can't be arsed to finish Halo 2, though.

@ rob177467

I can't see Edge giving it 10 that's for sure. I'd say they'll give it 8.

Just my personal feeling that a 10 wouldn't have caveats, and that frankly yet another Halo game can't possibly be a 10 unless it does anything wholly revolutionary and astounding, but you seem to think it does so that's cool. Mine arrives tomorrow but I'm not remotely excited about it although I'll give it a good old go.

Also, before anyone says so, doing something revolutionary and astounding in the MP and not the SP means fuck all to me. I'm not very good MP and will barely ever touch it as in my experience there's absolutely fuck all margin for error playing alongside all the usual pricks on Live.

They gave halo 2 a nine though, and they ran a large feature on it a few months back where they were v positive

As much of an advocate as I am for Bioshock's awesomeness, I also feel it's a terribly flawed game in some respects, and I think a lot of the people who, like me, are initially sucked in by its atmosphere, ambition, plot, etc. are overlooking the game's many faults. You may not like Halo 3, it may not match up to your idea of what a first person shooter should be, or where the genre should be headed, but from every review I'm reading, it sounds like it ultimately succeeds at being exactly what it wants to be (to paraphrase Shinji: a barn-storming, blockbuster sci-fi epic about shooting aliens in bursts of thirty seconds of fun, again and again). Bioshock falls at quite a number of hurdles, especially the last few.

Well written review. Pleasure to read. Thanks.

10/10 though? I seem to remember someone saying this had "8/10 written all over it" :-p

Oh and by the way...

BETTER THAN SPACE GIRAFFE :-D

Hey duffking... hey... duffking... yeah, you...

It's a comments board. That's my comment. Didn't read like a 10. I have no problem with Shinji's opinion though - why on earth would I? I've not even played it yet!

Now, we mortals, need to wait 'till 26th ...

>niteninja
Shinji We both agree its a good game,but its far from perfect.
Its not even in the same league as Crysis.

Yeah, the game you haven't played is worst than the game no one has played...

I stop caring about EG score when Oblivion got a 10.

Also I given up on reading after the 2nd page of the review, I guess this is going to end up as Halo 2 for me ... I get it months later at a reduced price.

PS3 is all but dead now

@Yoss, I'm doing my masters, own a house and am married with a child. There's always space for Halo! ;)

good for you, everyone who was desperately looking forward to this. Sounds like it's come good after all. I was never much into Halo, and thought it would be going downhill non stop after the first one, so glad to see they didnt just make a cheap cash in. I've also blocked all the xbots so I haven't even seen any "LOL IN YOUR FACE NON-360 OWNERS" comments. I'm happy!

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Sell your PS3 and buy these!!!!

"PS3 is all but dead now"

TGS was last week...

Haven't played except in multiplayer, and by pretty much every comment I've heard, the Crysis multiplayer is a bit gash.

I admit the review read (to me) more like a 9 but that's perhaps my jaded cynicism more than anything, albeit combined with my wariness of the Halo hype machine and past scores. And yes, 10 is a score that should be rare, but awarded to exceptional games. I've always figured the score was more as to exactly how special the game was, how much the reviewer liked it etc., rather than a scientific evaluation where 10 = PERFECT NO FLAWS WHATSOEVER BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE EVER WHETHER GAME OR OTHERWISE. Different strokes, though; whether or not you believe games should ever get a 10, you should be able to realise that it really does have to be fairly spectacular to get that score. Which is the main thing, right? Right?

I'm more than surprised about the 10 to be honest, I expected a 9 at most, makes my excitement about it even greater :D

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lol

you should be able to realise that it really does have to be fairly spectacular to get that score. Which is the main thing, right? Right?

Oblivion got a 10 so no, it does not.

lol @ MrsPacMan

At least those PS3 games are exclusive.

They wont be coming out on PC 6 months down the line...

I've played this now as far as Level 8 on Heroic. The review is entirely correct. Best Halo ever.

nowt to say just wanna jump on what could turn out to be the longest thread ever.
And the reivews only been up an hour or two!
let it roll.

Tony, get a life and a 360

you know you want to!!!