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Guitar Hero: World Tour Hands On

PlayStation 3 Xbox 360 Hands On by Keza MacDonald

11 September, 2008

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Thanks to Guitar Hero: World Tour, we had to listen to Michael Jackson's Beat It blare out across the Leipzig business centre approximately 149 times per day for the entirety of Games Convention, interspersed occasionally with a brief rendition of Livin' On A Prayer. The former, at least, actually turns out to be quite decent typing music, so thanks for that, Activision!

There's something quite surreal about the speed with which Guitar Hero has captured the world. Three years ago, it was a curiosity import published by a peripheral manufacturer best known for its dance-mats. We distinctly remember the man in the godforsaken, middle-of-nowhere import shop where we first laid our eager hands on Guitar Hero advising us to hang on to it, assuming it'd be a valuable curiosity one day. Now it's a massive, global event, played on-stage by celebrities and in living rooms by, well, pretty much everyone on every console, and making an awful lot of money for everyone involved with it.

It's currently undergoing another metamorphosis, turning itself from a beat-matching videogame into a set of music tools, attempting to similarly morph its players into creators. We got the chance to see how exactly it's going about this in Germany, where Neversoft and Activision fully unveiled the new equipment and music creation software that we glimpsed earlier this year.

The finished peripherals really are things of beauty. It seems bizarre that we've managed to become connoisseurs in the field of pretend instruments at some point over the past five years or so, but the quality of the drum kit and new guitar would be obvious even to people who haven't spent inordinate amounts of time familiarising themselves with the old ones.

'Guitar Hero: World Tour' Screenshot 1

It all looks eerily familiar, but World Tour is actually an impressive step forward in a lot of key areas.

The drum kit, especially, is a definite step forward, and does far more than just raise two of the pads and make them roughly cymbal-shaped; it's sturdy, amazingly quiet, and has satisfying bounce to it, making drum rolls and improvisation easier - especially important for freestyling in music creation.

The guitar, too, has been designed with music-creation in mind. Small differences make the thing more pleasurable to play - a contoured strum-bar, funky-looking, dial-shaped start and select buttons, a Rock Band-style effects selector, a lovely (detachable) sunburst finish - but the major difference is a touch-sensitive panel near the bottom of the neck. It's used for soloing, tapping, and even strumming if you'd rather tap the neck than flick the strum-bar, but more excitingly, it's a second input in the music-creation suite, allowing you to modify what you're playing and enabling the guitar to be used as an all-purpose, flexible input device rather than just a five-button toy instrument.

The way that music-creation works is rather difficult to explain in words, but as soon as you get the chance to have a go, it all becomes clear. You start off in a jam session, where up to four players can choose an instrument - rhythm guitar, lead guitar, bass, synth or drums. You can then all play happily along in E Major on the default settings and make a surprisingly decent noise, or dive into the menus and start messing around with every conceivable aspect of the sound.

'Guitar Hero: World Tour' Screenshot 2

It also lets you play on an aircraft carrier.

The first thing you can do is choose a scale, which naturally changes the notes that you can play with the guitar's five buttons and their various combinations. You can pick from any scale, or create your own if you're trying to play something complex. Guitar Hero: World Tour is partnered with Line6 amps, so you can pick from about sixty predefined guitar noises or twiddle a screenful of virtual knobs to create your own. You can instantly save any sound that you create, and with the touch of a button, everybody will be playing on the same scale, so one keen person can be the sound engineer for the entire band.

Playing the instruments is perfectly intuitive. The drums act just as you'd expect them to, and you find yourself with a surprisingly instinctive control over the sound whilst playing guitar. Tilting the guitars up and down changes the octave, giving you adequate note variation to play most things you'd want to without constantly having to switch scales. You can start recording at the touch of a button, and of course all the instruments record on separate tracks, so if the drummer skips a beat it can be re-recorded later.

This is all stuff that you'd probably expect from World Tour's music-creation tools, but the drum and synth machines go far further than we expected from the game. If you don't happen to know an excellent drummer, or if you're looking for a different sound from that of a drum-kit, you can use the guitar to control an unexpectedly sophisticated backing-track machine. It makes our plastic guitars into actual synthesisers.

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Quint2020
11/09/08 @ 10:40
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/taps X like a madman

Veto, veto!!
jaluuk
11/09/08 @ 10:50
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WANT
dazrichards
11/09/08 @ 10:55
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Cor. Wasn't expecting all this studio stuff. Thought it would just be a Rock Band clone.
gblegend
11/09/08 @ 10:58
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I'm thinking that creating music using this would be more painful than fun
DFawkes
11/09/08 @ 11:06
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I want this quite a lot. Looking forward to making my first album of near unlistenable stuff for people to not play.

mcmonkeyplc
11/09/08 @ 11:14
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Straight to the top of the list it goes.
Harrihotpants
11/09/08 @ 11:17
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I've pre-ordered it from play and got my free bass guitar... talk about living the dream!
NegativeZero
11/09/08 @ 11:18
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Tried out the instruments with Rock Band at all? I'm interested to know if they're definitely compatible - EA's terrible mishandling of the Australian release has lead me to the decision to buy GH:WT (it's substantially cheaper and stuff) for the music creation and the instrument peripherals, and then buy the standalone Rock Band for the actual gameplay. The irony being that buying it this way will work out the same price as just buying Rock Band's instrument pack + game. :\
Zebula77
11/09/08 @ 11:23
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Being a musician myself, this is a very intriguing prospect. Me wants this. Now. :)
johnnybrn
11/09/08 @ 11:23
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Not to interested in music creation but was wondering if people would create clones of existing music that people could download for free and not have to pay for. I.e Nirvana's Nevermind and call in NRVNA - Nvrmnd. Just wondering

Also as I have RB dont want to buy more plastic instruments so was curious if the drum kit would work on this?
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dsmx
11/09/08 @ 11:57
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At least this studio mode will enable people to put some queen into rock band seems insane that killer queen is the only one that they seem to think deserves to be in it.
rashes
11/09/08 @ 11:57
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will the price be more reasonable than Rock Band?

Rodafowa
11/09/08 @ 12:00
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A page and a half on music creation tools that are only going to be of interest to people with the talent, knowledge and patience to do the same sort of thing on professional music-creation packages and therefore don't need this game, barely a paragraph on the game itself. Thanks for that.

Cross-compatibility of instruments is something that should be applauded, though, and it'll probably turn GHWT from "Not A Chance" to a "Soon As It Can Be Got For 20-25 Squid" purchase for me. Shame so many songs are duplicated in RB2, though.
Erinan
11/09/08 @ 12:05
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Is it me or it isn't mentioned in the article that you can't record, like,... the singing part. So you'll only be left with instrumental tracks.

Sounds interesting anyway, I wish you could have had a go at the RB2 instruments.
galerian86
11/09/08 @ 12:07
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@johnnybrn
Yes, your RB drum will work on GHWT. I am just waiting for the official pricing in the UK
designerheadache
11/09/08 @ 12:13
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prediction: This will cost the GDP of a small country in EUR if Rock band 1 pricing is anything to go by.....
kangarootoo
11/09/08 @ 12:20
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@Rodafowa

They are writing about what they were shown. Can't really expect more can we.
Lemming81
11/09/08 @ 12:27
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I'm actually a little bummed this 'hands on' didn't have more about the game portion. The music editing is nice and all, but to some of us (certainly me), it's just an extra we may not even delve into.

I'm in it for the Tool, tbh.
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Harrihotpants
11/09/08 @ 12:32
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at the mo it's £150 for the full kit.....
Zomoniac
11/09/08 @ 12:41
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The studio will be a much-hyped and never used feature. I doubt many people could be bothered with it. Also how do they go about the fact that the drum pads share instruments in the game? For a start you can't play without at least a crash, ride and hats, but there are only two cymbal pads. Which means you'll have to go in and manually edit the sound triggered by some strokes and not others. And suddenly it ends up becoming very long winded. And the lack of vocals I think makes it a non-starter. If Harmonix focus on getting their great note charts, having a massive track list, have a consistent stream of well-priced DLC and online band world tour whilst Neversoft put all their efforts into a short-lived novelty, I think it's pretty obvious which one will be worth buying.
johnnybrn
11/09/08 @ 12:43
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'at the mo it's £150 for the full kit..... '

Does that include the game?
Rodafowa
11/09/08 @ 12:47
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@ kangarootoo

I don't, really. I'm just frustrated that so much of the focus of this game appears to be on a feature that I (and, I'm betting, a vast majority of people) will end up having a 10-15 minute fiddle with and then ignore. Given how much was wrong with GH3 - the ridiculous, joyless difficulty spikes, those bastard boss-battles, the casual misogyny - I'm far more interested in finding out if those issues have been sorted than in reading about the bloody music creation mode. Again.
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11/09/08 @ 12:47
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johnnybrn, yes it does include it :)
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johnnybrn
11/09/08 @ 12:49
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Thanks, thats sweet
Zomoniac
11/09/08 @ 12:52
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@ Rodafowa

If GH: Aerosmith is anything to go by they've certainly addressed the difficulty spikes. Finished it on expert in about 3 hours with only one or two retries. And I can't even finish GH3 on hard!
Adam_T
11/09/08 @ 12:58
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This coming out on Wii?
JonFE
11/09/08 @ 13:04
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Ooh, screw this, I just pre-ordered it... Now I need a way to pass this from my wife undetected... Maybe I should sell Rock-Band-in-a-Box to make room for it, what do you think? I never really felt comfortable with RB's guitar.

/is a wimp
sanctusmortis
11/09/08 @ 13:06
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BUT HAVE THEY SORTED THEIR NOTE CHARTS?
yupyup
11/09/08 @ 13:38
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@Erinan

No vocals in music creation, can't remember where I read it, but Neversoft said it'd be too difficult to moderate content (racist lyrics etc).
metalnut
11/09/08 @ 14:10
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"at the mo it's £150 for the full kit....."
"Thanks, thats sweet"

I'm kinda wondering why people are just accepting this £150 price tag, when Rock Band was £140 from Play/Amazon at launch (once you'd added the game) and people were going batshit mental about it. Ok you get a 'free' bass guitar if you pre-order, but if you already have a guitar from GH3 that's not much use to you. eBay better be ready for the flood when this comes out ;)

Ah, the fickle intertubes....

kangarootoo
11/09/08 @ 14:49
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@Rodafowa

I see this sort of thing kind of like YouTube, insofar as the number of viewers massively outweigh the number of contributors, but the system as a whole works for everyone.

I expect that quite a small percentage of GH users will actually get stuck into this and create decent music, but we can be sure that some people WILL create fantastic music with this and their reputation should float them to the top of the inevitable pile of nonsense, just as it does in any game editing scene (assuming it includes a decent user ratings system, which it kind of has to).

In the end, everybody gets a free supply of new tunes whether they want to create any of their own or not. RB2 might have a larger catalogue of known artists, but there is the potential for hundreds of quality user created tunes to play all all styles.

The non-inclusion vocals is a real shame though. I can understand that recording and uploading your own vocals is a non-starter because of the huge increase in storage requirements it would cause, but being able to include your own lyrics and pitch information in a track would made the studio complete.
kangarootoo
11/09/08 @ 14:52
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"but Neversoft said it'd be too difficult to moderate content"

That seems a bit of a cop out. Other services (such as YouTube and SingStar) get by ok by giving players a "report dodgy content" option. Don't see why GH couldn't do the same thing. I can understand their fear, but its quite a massive limitation that they are putting in place to protect themselves.
hahayou
11/09/08 @ 15:10
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@yupyup

Well, the voice channels on all the FPS games have plenty of racist insults so why not just put a "rating changes with online interaction" sticker on it and be done like they do.
JonFE
11/09/08 @ 15:37
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@metalnut:

Rock Band's original price suggested by EA was GBP 129.99 / EUR 169 for the instruments bundle plus GBP 49.99 / EUR 69.99 for the game, which totaled to GBP 180 / EUR 240, a *bit* more than the 169 USD they were asking for the full package (instruments plus game) in the US.

The fact that retailers lowered the price to a more reasonable GBP 140 came second to the uproar :)
digiwalsh
11/09/08 @ 15:42
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Isn't the point of these games just to play along to the music you love?

Seems weird to create music in them, as they're going to be veyr much defined by what sounds the game allows you to make. It's more of a level editor than anything else I guess.
Rodafowa
11/09/08 @ 15:54
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@ kangarootoo

For sure, I can see what it adds to the experience but I primarily play Rock Band as, er, a band with the rest of the family. The only role that's always filled when we play is the vocalist, largely because my wife and daughter aren't really interested in any other instrument, so something that adds content that'll always be sans vocals is of limited interest to me.

Yeah, it'd be nice if someone could throw together a good version of Purple Rain or Another Girl Another Planet for me to have a fiddle with, but a wide range of well-put-together and reasonably-priced DLC is much more important, personally speaking. Also - no word yet on how this stuff integrates with the main game. One of the small but excellent ways the structure of Rock Band was superior the Guitar Hero games was that it treated bonus and downloadable songs the same as the "main" on-disk tracklist in terms of in-game incentives to play them. Will GHWT follow suit?

Given that the song-creation tools are probably only going to be of interest to me in terms of what other people are doing with it, another preview primarily covering how that mode's going to work is particularly redundant - as I said, I'm way more interested in finding out whether any steps have been made to sort out the problems with GH3's actual gameplay before worrying about the extra frills.
coastal
11/09/08 @ 16:22
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just less shite american tunes would help. and i really mean a lot less.
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11/09/08 @ 16:30
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Sounds cool, but I'm wondering how it'd handle anything more complex than basic chords. How are they going to implement the equivalent of palm-muting fr'instance? I'm sure they've thought of this stuff but if I'm going to have to wiggle a little lever about it's going to be a bit clunky.
Lemming81
11/09/08 @ 19:05
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@coastal: Where do you think the best rock and metal comes from? China?
metalnut
11/09/08 @ 20:28
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@JonFE: yeah I know, but they were still bitching about it long after the game was available for £140, continuing to whine like crazy in the Amazon comments about the actual price, not the theoretical RRP. And yet no-one bats an eyelid at the £150 for GH:WT - maybe coming out second means the community outrage is all used up already ;)

metalnut
11/09/08 @ 20:34
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"just less shite american tunes would help. and i really mean a lot less. "
"Where do you think the best rock and metal comes from? China? "

Britain. I agree there's a little too much US influence, but that's entirely down to the size of their audience, not musical merit. British bands are still a bit underrepresented in these games in comparison to their influence.
Ninja_Tino
11/09/08 @ 21:27
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If you have the Rock Band 1 drum kit, does that mean you can buy an extra drum (as I see there's 5 instead of 4)
IneptPercy
11/09/08 @ 21:53
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I remember in an interview they said the rockband drums will work and they have included something which remaps to the 4 pads, they also said that when you RB drums brake you can buy theres :-)

I am yet to invest in either so it looks like this is the one for me and then I can buy the rockband games, win win for me!
kangarootoo
12/09/08 @ 08:44
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@coastal

I think this comes down to the kind of music you like. Britain might have a lot of bands making the kind of music you like, but I think Lemming81's point was that when it comes to the kind of music that GH has at its core, the US has the best bands. Now maybe you think GH should change its musical direction, but that isn't really to do with the bands' country of origin. The US has lots of good bands doing all kinds of music.
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12/09/08 @ 21:15
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in reviews of Guitar Hero: World Tour and Rock Band 2, I'm really interested in how they stand up as guitar only games. I don't have a house full of people who would be interested in playing all the instruments so some feedback in the reviews as to how they stand up as single player games would be helpful
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Guys, there is a good video on ign demonstrating the music make, and it does seem really good! There are plenty of amp models so you can get the sound you want. As for palm muting! Yes they thought about it! and yes! you can palm mute! The guitar has a bridge piece, which also acts as a button, if you press it while strumming, it mutes. So it's practiiclly just like playing a real palm muted note.

From what I have seen and played of this game, it is a world apart from guitar hero 3. And I cannot wait for this game. The singleplayer has been refined, and the general layout of the game has been polished, which will please some people.

For me the music creator excites me, because me and friends can create songs and share them between each other. At first we will probably see some stupid things that are impossible to play, but activision have already said they will pick one a week or so as theire favourite... Something to aim for!

As for the note charts. Activision have employed a lot of people just to create this game, they have thousands of people working on those note charts. One of the main men at activision metnioned it in an interview recently, how activision has pumped a lot of money into the franchise to take it to a level beyond rock band.

I just hope their efforts are not wasted and people really do get stuck into the music creator.

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