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Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Comments by Keza MacDonald

22 November, 2007

Putting PS2 and 360 to the test. No need to fret.

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Erinan
16/11/07 @ 08:24
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Can't wait for next week \o/
gamerbunny
16/11/07 @ 08:25
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But seriously, this is a great buy for any Rock fan. Easy to pick up, and very fun with friends around.
hula hoops
16/11/07 @ 08:27
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My workmate is a fan of this. But personally I am a bit scared to try. By the look of some videos the of button pressing is just to much to make me enjoy this sort of game.
Tejstar
16/11/07 @ 08:29
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My main concern about the game is the tracklist. I'm not into heavy rock and I could only name less than 5 songs from the games tracklist that I could recognise. Playing the demo didn't really allay those fears either.

Whilst technically the game is very good, it still lives or falls on the accessibility of its songs. For that reason alone it will have a tough job of living up to Guitar Hero which I still enjoy playing more than Guitar Hero II.
Azazel
16/11/07 @ 08:32
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I'm not into heavy rock

GTFO

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Triggerhappytel
16/11/07 @ 08:33
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The GH games have never really done it for me. I had the first game, but sold it to a mate for £20 (with the guitar), because as much fun as it was in theory I never particularly enjoyed playing it.
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Stifler
16/11/07 @ 08:36
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"(indeed, I'd venture that it's about as cool as pretend guitars can look)"

Hmm, i personally think that the Rock Band Strat looks about a bazillion times cooler :)
DUFFMAN5
16/11/07 @ 08:46
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Guitar queer-o
I'll stick to the thing with six strings. Although it does look to be a good bit of fun, maybe after I finish assassins Creed then.
afray
16/11/07 @ 08:58
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16/11/07 @ 08:58
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Question is should I save my cash for Rock Band instead... ?
BrokenSymmetry
16/11/07 @ 09:00
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No complaints about the redesign of Judy Nails?
Valis
16/11/07 @ 09:03
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The new eurogamer scoring principle - everything is nine!

No need for innovation. No consideration of the fact that we all know rock band will be better, but they have given out too many 10's this year so will give it a 9 too, making the two apear equal.
mentat [mod]
16/11/07 @ 09:06
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Does the new wireless controller work ok with GH2?
epic_wanderer
16/11/07 @ 09:12
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it does, apparently. Also works with rock band
Killerbee
16/11/07 @ 09:15
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Is this out on the Wii as well?

I've never played a Guitar Hero game before, mainly due to being completely unimpressed by the track listings of previous versions, but this one actually looks good and I'm wondering if I should take the plunge...
bdaggers
16/11/07 @ 09:20
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I thought this review was heading for an 11 out of 10.

The killjoys ain`t Metallica, its EG !


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shido
16/11/07 @ 09:22
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"Gone are the covers - save for One by those notorious killjoys, Metallica"

This is why i shalt waiteth for Rock Band.
FabricatedLunatic
16/11/07 @ 09:22
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I've never played Guitar Hero before; perhaps I'll have a go at this. It looks good but I have a suspicion that the game would end up the same way as my real guitar: seldom played and gathering increasing amounts of dust.
Brogan
16/11/07 @ 09:28
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people need to stop stressing over track lists. you learn to enjoy the song through the game being fun you don't have to enjoy the song to find the game fun. Case in point Lamb of God really isn't my normally cup of tea at all but i love that song afterafter it was in GHII.
WinstonChurchill
16/11/07 @ 09:33
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Which is worse: console wars or franchise wars?

FIFA vs PES
Football Manager vs Championship Manager
Guitar Hero vs Rock Band

I think I'll buy GHIII and enjoy it. And then buy Rock Band and enjoy it.
moggsy
16/11/07 @ 09:36
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@ Valis

The new eurogamer scoring principle - everything is nine!

No need for innovation. No consideration of the fact that we all know rock band will be better, but they have given out too many 10's this year so will give it a 9 too, making the two apear equal.


How does anybody know Rock Band will be better? Assassins Creed was shaping up to be a classic but fell at the last hurdle. Also how many people will really fork out over £100 and then find space in their living room for a drum kit?

Also, you are quite correct. There is no need for innovation when you just add polish and extra content to an already great game.
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JonFE
16/11/07 @ 09:48
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I purchased GH2 on the x360 and debate whether to get this with or without the wireless guitar. There's only so much space wasted on "toys" missus can tolerate and Rock Band is just around the corner...
mowgli
16/11/07 @ 09:57
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This is the only fucking game i want!! Mario and Mass Effect can fuck right of im waiting for this!!
Pachinko
16/11/07 @ 09:59
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A nice read, but what the hell do you mean by 'gone are the covers'? There's a bunch of covers in there, starting with Rock You Like a Hurricane being sung some eight octaves lower than the original.
Wendelius
16/11/07 @ 09:59
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I take issue with one thing Keza said:

"Some American reviewers have even been complaining about the difficulty, but frankly, they're wimps. For a rhythm-action game - especially one with as many skilled devotees as Guitar Hero - there is no such thing as 'too difficult' on the expert levels, and as always the game's four difficulty settings are designed so that everybody has their comfort zone."

I have played and enjoy GHII quite a lot and so does my wife. We both aren't quite done with Hard and She has done a few tiers on Expert but that's beyond me.

In GHII, the first time you transition from Medium to Hard, the transition feels brutal (I'm sure the reviewer can remember something like that countless hours of GH ago). By many accounts from people who played GHIII, the transition to Hard is more brutal this time.

I know there are GH pros out there. And I have no qualms with either making Expert harder or creating another difficulty level. But reports from players make it sound like raising the difficulty on Hard (something the reviewer would hardly notice if she is already an Expert player) has actually created a gap in the comfort zones.

I guess I'll know for sure next week. But I no longer expect the difficulty to be nicely paced. GHIII seems to have more erratic song difficulty and that Hard wall. Many people have said it's harder than GHII. and it should not be at less than the Expert level.

If you're not as good as Keza, you might need to take that into account. If you are, you probably won't even notice.

Wendelius
mkreku
16/11/07 @ 10:01
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M-more difficult than GH2?? I'm not s-scared! B-bring it on..
Wendelius
16/11/07 @ 10:03
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@mrkeku

Good man! You show them who is boss! :)

Wendelius
brooza
16/11/07 @ 10:09
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No complaints about the SLOWDOWN?
Zuiyo
16/11/07 @ 10:10
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This is a good example of why reviews and scores don't match. The content of the review is a 10+, yet the score is not. A good thing, I say. Make people read!
Garwoofoo
16/11/07 @ 10:11
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I always thought that, rather than making the game harder, Guitar Hero actually needed an additional difficulty level between Medium and Hard - that had the speed and some of the complexity of Hard but didn't yet introduce the fifth fret button. As others have said, the difficulty leap up to Hard even in the earlier games could be off-putting.

Interesting review, though. Word of mouth on this hasn't been great. This is the first fully positive review I've seen, and my interest levels are up again. I'll be getting the PS2 version though, there's only so many plastic guitars a grown man needs.
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Fwing
16/11/07 @ 10:12
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The 360 achievements and leaderboards are worse than GH2s and the boss battles are. . .of questionable merit gameplay-wise even if they are a neat idea.

It also drops frames when you activate star power which can kill you. IMO this should be patched if at all possible.

And I was "meh" over the track list as well but it grows on me much like 2's did.
ERG1008
16/11/07 @ 10:13
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When I was younger we actually played real guitars & joined real bands. ;o)
groovychainsaw
16/11/07 @ 10:20
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Hmmm - I can't afford guitar hero AND rock band - and I want to play drums more than guitar- Shame, if they had no competition, it would be no question, really...
BulletTheory05
16/11/07 @ 10:39
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I think the tracklist is great.

quick question, will the PS3 version have DLC?
dsmx
16/11/07 @ 10:41
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To quote a recent south park episode if you master this game "you are fags"
Moz
16/11/07 @ 10:41
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WHAT THE HELL!!! Just seen that the 360 & PS3 versions cost £20 more then the PS2 version how the hell are they justifing that???
Notorious_LRO
16/11/07 @ 10:44
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I am having trouble understanding those who say that GHIII has the same feel as GHII. They are two entirely different games in my book, with the latter feeling less like playing a guitar than punching keys in the right order. The good 'ol feeling is gone I'm afraid. 7/10.
designerheadache
16/11/07 @ 10:46
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wot no PS3 review?
Notorious_LRO
16/11/07 @ 10:48
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@ Moggsy

"Also, you are quite correct. There is no need for innovation when you just add polish and extra content to an already great game. "

You are the reason Electronic Arts is the biggest video game company in the world. Congratulations, you are average.
barabbas
16/11/07 @ 10:50
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After reading reports of the difficulty I canceled my preorder and decided to save my money for Rock Band. In my opinion GHI had good difficulty curve, and even though I completed Hard in GHII it was much less enjoyable than GHI.

It's a pity every installment of the series it seems to be geared more and more towards hard-core players. In GHI there were several songs that were just plain fun to play again and again, even though they didn't offer too much of a challenge.
easy_lee
16/11/07 @ 10:50
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There are a list of things I disagree with in this review, but the main problem I have is that you find the notecharts brilliant. IMO, they are far from that, they are inconsistent and oftentimes bear little or no relation to the music you are playing. Also, there are some great tracks on there for listening too, but things like Sabotage and Mississippi Queen are boring to play. Overall, this is still Guitar Hero and thus great, but the game has its fair share of problems which keep it from being better than the previous installments.
MrChuckles
16/11/07 @ 10:51
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Ok, i do love some Metallica tracks, but if they keep acting like corporate cocks, i say games like GH should start using guys who cover their stuff.

How about using this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7c2cHA5aNc

:-)

And when will a guitar game put this in it, it's tacky, but i love it and would be awesome to play on GH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjA5faZF1A8
Moz
16/11/07 @ 10:54
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"@ Moggsy

"Also, you are quite correct. There is no need for innovation when you just add polish and extra content to an already great game. "

You are the reason Electronic Arts is the biggest video game company in the world. Congratulations, you are average."

To be fair with quality of games and graphics these days there is alot less room for innovation, and with something like GH what is there to do really other then give people more songs to play? In story based games I know look more for a decent plot with solid game play.
epic_wanderer
16/11/07 @ 10:57
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Wikipedia (I know...) says 'One' is not a cover, can anyone confirm?
flaming.elk
16/11/07 @ 10:57
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Since when has 'One' been a cover? Last I heard all the Metallica tracks, GH or RB, were masters. Is this just the EU version? No other review has mentioned it.
SteveB
16/11/07 @ 11:01
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Never played GH before, but after trying the demo (with the pad,) I couldn't believe how much fun it was and pre-ordered immediately.

Is it easier with the guitar controller as I found medium a challenge with the pad ?
KingKongBassett
16/11/07 @ 11:13
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I don't own Guitar Hero II, but want to play this two-player on one 360. Anyone know if the guitars will be available separately?
beastlybeast
16/11/07 @ 11:17
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One is not a cover.
Rodafowa
16/11/07 @ 11:31
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In GHII, the first time you transition from Medium to Hard, the transition feels brutal (I'm sure the reviewer can remember something like that countless hours of GH ago). By many accounts from people who played GHIII, the transition to Hard is more brutal this time.

I know there are GH pros out there. And I have no qualms with either making Expert harder or creating another difficulty level. But reports from players make it sound like raising the difficulty on Hard (something the reviewer would hardly notice if she is already an Expert player) has actually created a gap in the comfort zones.


This.

The cliff-face learning curve between Medium and Hard, and the largely-terrible higher difficulty levels filled with tedious thrash-metal that's REALLY hard to play without being ANY fun at all really marred GH2 for me, and the reviewer blithely skipping straight over the issue didn't really help.

I'll likely still end up getting it, but I'm now a bit more worried than I was previously. Still, thanks for the info, Wendelius.
Wendelius
16/11/07 @ 11:43
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I was surprised it was glossed over too, Rodafowa.

On the subject of slowdowns, I've seen people suggest that they might occur with some of the characters and not others. Something worth experimenting with, I guess.

Wendelius

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