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GT5 Prologue PSN download is 1.9GB News

PlayStation 3 News by Tom Bramwell

17 March, 2008

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue is set to weigh in at 1870MB on PlayStation Network when it goes on sale next Thursday, 27th March.

That's how big the game was when we downloaded it to put together our exclusive review of the PAL version, and Sony has confirmed to Eurogamer that it will be the same when the game goes live on the PlayStation 3 Store.

1.9GB isn't exactly huge, especially given that PS3 games can take advantage of Blu-ray's 50GB if they choose, so how do they do that?

One way Prologue reduces its footprint is by leaving cinematics on the server until you choose to download them from GT TV. You can choose to download the opening movie at any time, and when you finish Event series you're told that you can now download the end movie from the in-game high-definition TV download page.

According to a Sony spokesperson, both movies will be included on the Blu-ray disc version of the game.

Playing through the European version of Prologue also gave us a chance to check out some of its new features, like the Quick Tune mode.

New to the PAL release, Quick Tune is unlocked when you finish C, B and A-class races in Event mode, and lets you adjust tons of car settings before each race, giving you a performance-points score based on the balance you strike.

You can also store up different configurations to switch between in real-time during races. These configs can be assigned to buttons on the Sixaxis or Driving Force GT steering wheel.

For those of you who care, the options you can adjust using Quick Tune are: power, weight, tyre, aerodynamics, ride height, spring rate, damper, toe angle, camber angle, brake balance, traction control, max turning angle, ABS, torque balance and gear ratios. The Quick Tune page also shows you graphs of power/torque and gear ratio to help you see what you're doing.

Advanced players can also opt for Professional physics rather than Standard, as they could in the Japanese release, while other assists (for correcting oversteer and preventing skidding) are offered along with the traditional driving line, which now benefits from displaying target speeds over the far end of red braking sections to help you work out exactly when to reapply acceleration.

For more on all that, check out our Gran Turismo 5 Prologue PAL review. The game's due out on PSN on 27th March and at retail on 28th March.

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Darren
17/03/08 @ 12:23
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Hehehe, so Sony could easily have released GT5 Prologue on a cheaper DVD then, thus getting round the slow access times of BD? LOL
woodnotes
17/03/08 @ 12:24
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Indeed. Also love the damage control with "we're leaving cinematics on the server" etc
seasidebaz
17/03/08 @ 12:32
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hmmm, the download option is tempting... although it would be quicker for me to walk to the game shop, pick it up, then pop into the pub for a pint (with my change from a £20 note...) then go back home and play it. for 6 hours. at which point the download would be nearly finished.

i like beer, so i know what i'm doing on release day :)
Arwin
17/03/08 @ 12:39
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Come now. We already knew that the full Japanese version was 5GB. However, first of all this is prologue, which is about 1/10th of the full game in terms of assets. So if we know that these 6 tracks with their variations and about 70 cars takes 2GB, then the full game would take 20GB, just for the bloody basics. So who's doing the damage control here?

Also, why would you want to use a noisy DVD disc if you can use a nice and quiet BD disc? Performance is very similar, and all PS3s have HDD to cache anything that actually needs faster access times (note that DVD's access times for dual layer discs also goes up on most DVD drives)

And then you have the option to get this game as a PSN download. Also something that isn't offered for similar size games on rival platforms.

I don't see a whole lot of bad stuff in there for Sony, but hey, I'm a Sony fanboy so that should probably explain everything (unless you recognise that I'm a racing game fanboy and that I have all platforms except for the wii, including Forza 2, the MS Wheel and a 360 ;) )
bioreit
17/03/08 @ 12:40
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So...........

Blu-Ray's much-vaunted extra capacity only needed for non-interactive cinematics, then? Filler indeed.

Hehe - only joking.

Seriously though, would love to get a genuine, non-corporate-line-toeing response from third-party devs on the whole capacity/speed debate with regard to DVDs and BDs.

/waits for new UK government to announce an end to taxes first.

/readies Anti-Aviationary-Porcine device.
Moz
17/03/08 @ 12:45
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*sighs at some previouse posts* how does this invalidate the need for BD exactly? there are tenth the number of cars and tracks of a full GT games plus HD cinmatics take up a lot of space, just have to look at Lost Odysee to see that (on disk 3 now, each disk so far has only had about 20mins of HD cinematics)

So from this you can see that the full GT5 is going to need at least 20GB of space for the game content plus extra for cinematics.

They could have released prologue on DVD but they'd have only save a couple of pence per disk and opened themselves up to people complaining about how GT5P loads slightly quicker then GT5
dadrester
17/03/08 @ 12:46
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so with the quicktune thing you could adjust the ride height from really low to really high and it would be like having inspector gadgets car? SOLD!
Gurgeh
17/03/08 @ 12:52
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Anyone checked the prices on Blu-Ray players since HD-DVD was canned? They're up by 20 - 30%...
Moz
17/03/08 @ 12:58
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@Gurgeh - Can't say i'm surprised, they'll come back down again once more companies start to manufacture them. Just recuping some of the losses from the format war.
tinderbox
17/03/08 @ 13:04
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Come on, we all know Blu-ray was put there for movies, and not for games.
mkreku
17/03/08 @ 13:12
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Ok, feel free to show us a link to confirm that, Gurgeh. Otherwise I have a link that proves the opposite: prices are still sinking, in Sweden at least:

http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?k=v719

It's a price hunt site that keeps track of how prices adjust in the last weeks. If the arrow is red, the price is going up. If the arrow is white, it means it hasn't changed. If the arrow is green, it means the price has decreased. I see no red arrows.
Darren
17/03/08 @ 13:26
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Play.com have a Samsung BD player for £200, or £230 with 5 movies, so I'd say prices are definitely dropping. I paid £200 for my first DVD player from Toshiba.
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17/03/08 @ 13:42
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guregh is right, the prices are going up, i read it on joystiq / ps3fanboy last week
mkreku
17/03/08 @ 14:08
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I'd rather trust real world prices than unsubstantiated rumours. Look around you: where do you see "20-30%" increases?
tonynibbles
17/03/08 @ 14:32
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Blu Ray still has the added advatages of being more difficult for people to copy though.
GamesConnoisseur
17/03/08 @ 14:52
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And I paid £599 for my first DVD player all the year ago and was the life of the party for a while with everyone gowking at the smooth visually superior DVD quality compared to horrible blurring VHS. Everyone swore off VHS then, but not the same at a recent house party here and whereas only one mate was convinced enough and he rushed out to get PS3 mainly for BD movies the next day after he saw Casino Royale with Bond's shocking blue eyes!

Er ... now that make me wonder if he is perhaps into men as well?

BD does have it disadvantage with slower reading time but can get around it by caching, and I thank heaven for getting 250 gb hdd and look forward to prologue next Thursday!
bioreit
17/03/08 @ 15:01
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@ mkreku

Tom's Hardware a reliable enough source for you?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/12/b...

Salient quote:

"Every standlone Blu-ray-specific player in the chart above is now more expensive than it was at the beginning of the year."

It even has a lovely spreadsheet-style table, listing several stand-alone players and what prices they were at various dates.

It's supply and demand, people! How can anyone reasonably say this wasn't going to happen?
optimusprym8
17/03/08 @ 15:09
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any word on the 5Gb download that was released in Japan shortly after it's release there? Don't fancy doing that again
mkreku
17/03/08 @ 16:22
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@bioreit: No. No, actually it isn't. I'm still going to look at real world prices instead of reading an article.

The BD-players in that list from Tom's Hardware (that the article claims are now at its most expensive all year):

Samsung BD-P1400: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=23... (Started this year at 5000SEK, now at 4400SEK)
Sony BDP-S300: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=20... (Started this year at 4000SEK, now at 3200SEK)
Sharp BD-HP20S: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=20... (Started this year at 4000SEK, now at 3000SEK)
Panasonic DMP-BD30: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=27... (Released at 4900SEK, now at 4100SEK)
LG BH200: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=26... (Released at 7500SEK, now at 7500SEK)

Every link leads to a chart where you can follow the prices of the product since its release. Now where is the 20-30% increase?

The last two were both released this year and are only a couple of months old. But still, none of the players have gotten more expensive. NONE. You may read Tom's Hardware all you like, but these are the prices available to you right now. In the real world, outside of Internet rumour mongering.
Moz
17/03/08 @ 16:31
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"any word on the 5Gb download that was released in Japan shortly after it's release there? Don't fancy doing that again"

I'd guess from the article that they've done away with the 5GB download by making the cinematics optional.
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17/03/08 @ 21:45
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1.9GB for GT5 Prologue
0GB for videogame content.
3william56
18/03/08 @ 04:09
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@bioreit: Be honest - you're going to dismiss anyone (e.g. Kojima, Insomniac) who says Bluray is a good thing as corporate stooges for $ony. There's been plenty of folks saying it, you're just not going to listen.

@Gurgeh - a lot of the increases in price have been reported in the USA. With the mighty dollar going down the gurgler, imports from Japan/China are naturally going to increase in price. No story there. In Europe and Asia, where we haven't totally lent the national economy to penniless rednecks with no money, the currency has been relative stable against the Yen, hence no major price shift.

Well, as Microsoft said this week, downloading HD movies is teh future. So no doubt they'll be congratulating Polyphony on their forward thinking business model. And I guess the Xbox owners can be glad that because all their consoles have hard drives, they too can access this sort of quality downloadable content 24/7.

What? Oh.
bioreit
18/03/08 @ 09:22
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@ 3william56

I wouldn't dismiss them as corporate stooges, no, but I wouldn't trust them to say anything negative about the format (if there were anything of course), in exactly the same way that I wouldn't trust Bungie or Rare to be 100% open about the issue of potential size-constraints of standard DVDs.

But hey, tar me with the fanboy brush why don't you - I mean, I did only specify that I was talking about Sony devs and BD capacities/speed, after all, didn't I? Didn't I?

Maybe I should have made the "only joking" element of my post larger and more visible?

How about this:

ONLY JOKING!!!!

Visible enough for you? Or are you so choked up on the bile of fanboy rage that you went blind?

Edit 1:Oh and did I even hint that I was saying Blu-Ray wasn't a good thing? Or was I just speculating that it would be interesting to see an unbiased technical comparison and read comments based upon real-world experience with both formats....?

@ mkreku

Haven't abandoned this conversation - just trying to track down a UK based site that has pricing histories for products, as my Swedish really isn't up to much! Not disputing that prices in Sweden have gone down (thanks for the info), but evidence in America is that prices have risen. So, for a fair comparison, I'm trying to track down prices of players in the market I live in, i.e. the UK.

So please, please, please bear with me while I wade through all of the crap sites!
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