Grand Theft Auto IV's Aaron Garbut: Part 2 Comments by Tom Bramwell

DS version?

^^LOL^^


On a more seriouse note, this is all sounding very cool. Definately look forward to woundering around seeing what all this nre tech achieves, still have this naging feeling though that like other GTA games i'll play it for a few hour appreciate it, then just not get sucked into the actual story - Lets hope i'm wrong (my social life hopes i'm right!)

Nah. TO rubbish :)

I so can't wait.


And that ingameshot with the hud looks phenomenal, it's not a bullshot or anything!

Bloody interesting as well.

Please could you tell us when the review embargo will be over and it'll be up on the site?

Thanks very much.

It will be soon el_pollo_diablo - probably the end of this week. Andy by the way, it gets a 10....ssshhhh.

I heard people on other forums saying something about there being different volumes on people on the street depending on if you play the 360 or PS3 version, anyone have any links to respectable sites saying this?

Moz: There's also a rumour about the PS3 version having a split-screen mode. From the same source. Rubbish obviously.

The Eurogamer editors have decided to increase the scale to 11 just this once actually.

I dunno, i'm feeling a 9 coming on

Moz, other people on forums are idiots

Moz, other people on forums are idiots

This is the general rule of thumb, always good to see if anyone knows of a legit source of info, if no one does that it's goes from 90% sure of it being bollocks to 99% sure of it being bollocks

It's bollocks because if they did that can you imagine the fucking consequences there would be? The backlash would be awesome to watch though, angry gamers would tear down Rockstar studios.

"I heard people on other forums saying something about there being different volumes on people on the street depending on if you play the 360 or PS3 version, anyone have any links to respectable sites saying this?"

i think it's from http://www.autisticgamers.com

Good interview EG - and good answers from Mr Art Director.

As long as the targeting and save systems are sorted - and from what I've seen so far, they are - I'll be happy with it if they've not broken any of the gameplay.

Nice to see they still have the ramp truck in it. Handy thing to have when the cops are after you. Just slam on the brakes and they go up the ramp ahead of you, or sometimes to the side. Certainly stops them in their tracks. :D

Without official word it's obviously likely made up, but what does anyone think/know about this:
(quote from here; videogamer.com/...)

"The "fantasy" vehicles have all been removed. Gone are the tanks, aeroplanes, parachutes, jet packs and bicycles."

edit; fixed link

linky noey worky okey dokey?

There are no stealable aeroplanes in the game and no bicycles or skateboards, we have known that since day one.

The 29th ?That's the day I start working at a new company :) :(

I dunno, i'm feeling a 9 coming on

Nah, you're joking, it's bound to be a 10.

I see a recurring trend in the answers the biggest studios give on how they design their games (i.e Blizzard, Bioware, Rockstar). Unsurprisingly because success has given them the cash and leverage to take all the time they need to develop a game they are able to work in an organic manner, letting the creative process take its course.

In contrast it often seems studios struggling for the success that affords this luxury are confined to deadlines and budgets that tie them into the stricter less iterative processes that the GTA guy claims lead to more lifeless worlds.

My query is just how do you make that jump? It seems that in corporate guff at least EA have realised this and is affording studios more time, but what of dev houses under different publishers?

Sorry for any TL:DR sufferers, even though you won't have made it this far :)

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I dunno, i'm feeling a 9 coming on

Nah, you're joking, it's bound to be a 10.

Knowing Eurogamer it will probably be something like 6/10 ;-)

So what's the difference between a 4 door and a 4 door?

@ TagemandBagem

I thought the same. Good read though enjoyed both parts, nice work.
Really wish I could stop reading almost everything about this game :(
Fortunately I have managed to avoid any spoilers except that major one about a comedian posted on EG frontpage!

We are a lot more organic, this is a conscious choice and it does lead to more difficulties along the way, it's harder on the team and it's trickier to keep track of but it leads to better games. It works because the core team know each other well and have worked together for a long time, we trust each other and know what to expect.

Key to success!
I like the idea of R* looking at things from a more 'organic' point of view, and the fact that they mesh well as a team, I suppose the trials and tribulations R* are constantly noted for, have really brought them together.

Wonderful Article, I look forward to playing GTAIV.

Good interview but how about asking if all the shitty stuff has been fixed?

Targeting and Mission Save/restart structure for example.

Maybe it's been covered in other articles. I only read these because it said spoiler free:)

@ jonsaan

Judging by all the reports so far these issues are Fixed by all accounts or at least immeasurably improved, won't go into details as you want to remain spoiler free ;)

I envy you knowing nothing, everything will be new!

jonsaan:

I read a preview (either here or GamesRadar) that said that the new targeting/cover system is an improvement but still nowhere near perfect.

I also read something about autosaving before missions, and retrying missions via a text or call on the mobile telephone but I cannot remember where this was from.

I cant wait to see the super smooth frame rate lol!

come on im not reading that shit, fs give us the review already. its out in couple days..

I don't have much confidence for the shooting gameplay but if the driving hasn't been dramtically improved I might give this one a miss. Also, the helicopter gunship is just a blackhawk now? pffft!

i remember reading as well that the cover system is still a bit b0rk3d too... will pass judgement on full game though :)

these articles are very good, though.

oh, and the eg score will be 9/10. the game isn't perfect, so doesn't deserve a 10. save the 10 for the followups that mr gta mentioned in the interview :)

I think with every game they've promised the aiming system will be a lot better, and it always turns out to be horrible. Hopefully they've managed to get it right, but I wouldn't count on it. I doubt it will really ruin the game, but it's surprising that the games always get such high scores, even with so many glaring flaws. I hope the reviews actually take these things into account for once instead of just having a six page "It's GTA IV man! 10/10".

It's also a little sad, considering Saints Row nailed the aiming system right away, the shooting was perfect.

Nice article, thanks.

lol as for the targeting system, I think for precision targetting you have to gently hold the Left Trigger, that may take sometime for me, but I am sure I can nail it! As for lock on, well, time will tell ;)

I just found out today the contract on my current job finishes on friday so, as of monday, I am unemployed.

I couldnt have timed unemployment any better.

@ WinterSnowblind

"It's also a little sad, considering Saints Row nailed the aiming system right away, the shooting was perfect."

Pfff, better than GTA? Yes. Perfect? Definitely not!

No, that's reserved for Crackdown! That's a perfect targeting system!

I'm on a poncey development course on the 29th, with early start and early finish - Mr Postie better be at mine by 8am so I can get some play in :D

Ack. I hated the aiming in Saints Row. I liked the game, but that bit really got my goat, as it were.

I prefered GTA's method of lock on and shoot tbh!

No, that's reserved for Crackdown! That's a perfect targeting system!

Yeah you're right, they actually nailed the lock-on system pretty good as it really works with the free form style of the game, like you could be jumping around like some psyco and the Lock on would't not fail you, even if you wanted to fire in mid-air. *points at his 5 kills whilst in mid-air achievement!*

BATTLETOADS

That's my way of saying I am looking forward to this particular video game.

"It works because the core team know each other well and have worked together for a long time, we trust each other and know what to expect."

I hope the team are getting paid shedloads then, cos GTA's success seems to depend on them...

If you all bought the PC version any problem with targeting would go away.

Except, wait...

Okay, so my order at Play.com has been 'Processing' all day.

Now it's not in 'Outstanding Orders' or 'Order History'. Is this normal for Play.com, or have they wiped my order???

Play's systems are down today - back tomorrow.

ahh, ok - Thanks!

EG in your review please investigate any differences between the PS3 & 360 versions. I know it'll be good, I know I'll be buying it. Just want advice on which version (all other things equal).