Grand Theft Auto IV Comments by Tom Bramwell

Rash's "la la la"... hate to rain on yours cos that was with regards to texture pop-in alone(which it still has too, and load times are faster too I guess)... the 360 version has a slightly better picture(colour and proper anti-aliasing) and a slightly better framerate... in the end you could give the edge either way and you know it, theres so little between them that its not even worth trying to give the edge. Like I said though if a patch comes along for the pop-in(which it could) then it would just about be worth giving the technical edge to the 360 version(well maybe not, it depends on how much smoother the framerate is really).

Calgon, well, la dee da! You're blinded by your love of your preferred system. Go read any number of reviews and the majority say the same as I'm saying to you. There's not a lot in it but based of the reviews, $ony's console edges it technically. Oh, and a patch isn't exclusively available to 360...

Rash' my god you are desperate arent you("any number of"??? theres bearly any reviews... IGN can be dismissed, I would hope you arent that desperate)... I dont own either of the consoles, theres just virtually no difference get over it. They both have pop-in PS3s is slightly less noticable, which is why that author gave it the technical edge in his/her opinion.. do you get it now? If framerate or colour/image quality was more important to them, then geuss what? The 360 would have the "slight edge".

Again read what I said carefully and stop assuming you know better, you were quoting "edges it technically" and I was clarifying in what way = pop-in(no confirmation of anything else other than load times has been mentioned from any respectable source, so incase you are confused here, no you arent getting better graphics infact its said the 360 version looks slightly better sorry), the 360 edges it in otherways(from the same source) which I noted, yes PS3 could have the patch too and hopefully there would be two versions with little to no pop-in right? That last point I made was because framerate is rarely patchable for obvious reasons, so expect that to remain the same which 360 apparently has the edge in funnily enough.

Thanks for the laugh though Rash' but thats all I'm saying on the matter.

As for this little gem:

You're blinded by your love of your preferred system.

Pot meet kettle perhaps? ;)

This should hold me over until MGS4

10/10

evryone buy!!!!!!

niteninja, how come you can find the shift key when posting in the comments threads, unlike your 'contributions' to the forum?

And how comes you don't come across as totally and frighteningly batshit insane here either?

The PS3 version has a better frame rate and less pop up, but the 360 version has a better colour palette and DLC...


... Oh wait, I forgot, I don't give a flying fuck.

I'll end up getting both, so I can play with friends on XBL and PSN anyway. :)

I'll end up getting both, so I can play with friends on XBL and PSN anyway. :)

That, ladies and gents, is the true definition of hardcore.

i have nothing to add

In other news, the governments behind the Large Hadron Collider are kicking themselves this morning, after it was demonstrated that a Higgs Boson could be easily identified for nothing. Xbots and SDF amateurs used the combined forces of ignorance, bile and insecurity to split matter to it's most fundamental level. The hair split between the 360 and PS3 versions of popular violence franchise GTA IV was subdivided so thinly that, once the divisions got past the quark level, a Higgs Boson spontaeously manifested in the comments section of Eurogamer.

Unfortunately, the appearance of the fabled Boson was also accompanied by the formation of a planet destroying black hole, meaning that the world will in fact end before any copies of GTA IV are delivered.


If EG had any sense, they'd have give it a 7, watched the hit count reach infinity, sold the domain off for a billion bucks and retired to a private island in the carribean.

Gives that man a jaffa

@calgon:

read the metareviews. the ps3 version has the edge. not that it matters.

and if you don't have either console, go get one of them. otherwise don't comment on a game you CAN'T PLAY. plus you will have a great console to play other great games on too.

Wow, 10/10, what a shock.

Who really cares which is best anyway? Heck, like many, I own both systems. From reviews it sounds like the 360 has more pop in, but a smoother frame rate. If all else was equal the PS3 one it would be. But that's not the case. Online in this game is a big deal, and free or not, PS3 online always disappoints. Especially in a game where the main online draw is competitive co-op. On the PS3 the vast majority don't use headsets, so the online mode is borked instantly. So, 360 it is then.

And really, at the end of the day, there is no actual performance difference, the pop in occurs because it is slower to stream from a disc than an HDD. Though I'm surprised the game doesn't get cached to the HDD as that is what is the norm for 360 games. Real time caching as you play. Anyway, I'm still waiting for a PS3 game that I really have to buy on the PS3 rather than the 360. For now, I'll make do with Everybody's Golf.

wow mr Bramwell, that was probably the dulllest, flattest and most uninspired review you ever wrote. It almost made me think of something done out of pure boredom and/or frustration...

10/10 as expected.
When's the 360 version getting reviewed?

tgigreeny: "If you own both platforms, you clearly spend enough on games to be able to buy it for both and either sell or return the lesser of the two."

Don't talk total shit. Just because I own two consoles doesn't mean I can afford to spend £80 on every game I buy, not to mention that I really don't have enough spare time to spend it fucking about playing the same game through twice to see which version is better. That is the most irrational, inane, bizarre, brainless and useless solution anyone has suggested to the whole 'dilemma' of which version to buy as it doesn't actually provide a solution. If you had told me to just toss a fucking coin I might be able to retain a fragment of respect.

swam: "Yet they gave it 10/10 because they were swept up in the hype like all the other 10/1 outlets.


That is all. "

And you can tell all this about a game that THEY have played and YOU have not. Thankyou Mystic fucking Meg! I think the deranged conspiracy theorists are actually starting to piss me off even more than the electrical appliance flame wars.

@BBIAJ

I suspect that you're just having a dig because you're bored. But just in case you missed it, my post was dripping with sarcasm. Bearing your setup in mind, your post was dripping with irony.

GOTY? No way. Gears of war 2 will be GOTY.


Ive got GTA4 today and im taking a day off work tomorrow to play it. I also have birthday tomorrow so it will be a good day.

what's the price on AH for a copy? or is it BoP.

to everyone who has it already:

r* were very clear about the street date not being broken. play it today and i bet you get banned from the r* social club ;)

Bet they don't. It's not against the law to buy a game early, just to SELL it early.

ok then, to further my statement, they might ban you until you tell them exactly who sold it to you, and prosecution has taken place ;)

Read it!

Must say, the Gametrailers review at least mentioned that under all the fancy stuff, the missions are plain and simple. Somebody contacts you, tells you to go to a location, you go there, kill all enemies, and a new objective enters the scene.

I'm not saying its good or bad (have to play it first), but I AM saying that every review should at least point this out. And if the reviewer has any balls, they'd actually give an opinion on how the mission gameplay hold up. But no, everyone is to scared to do that, because if their opinion differs from the majority, they'll be getting heat they can't handle.

Up until now, every review is just a list of side-shit you can do.

Tried to persuade local shops to sell it.

FAIL.

Oh, I didn't know this was coming out?

500+ posts by the end of the day.

I'm purposely avoiding all reviews so that I discover every joy and facet for myself.

Must say, the Gametrailers review at least mentioned that under all the fancy stuff, the missions are plain and simple. Somebody contacts you, tells you to go to a location, you go there, kill all enemies, and a new objective enters the scene.

Up until now, every review is just a list of side-shit you can do.

@Prodigy_BE

And you needed Gametrailers to tell you that? LOL...What did you think GTA IV was all about....cooking recipes?
And of course, most reviews just list side shit to do...did you want story spoilers? I didn't ;)

500+ posts by the end of the day.

@X201

And 90% of them are bitching, moaning, complaining, griping about the game & reviews and also arguing over which version is better.
Are you mofos ever happy? jeez!

Only 10/10!

/cancels order ;)

"GOTY? No way. Gears of war 2 will be GOTY. "

:)

My bet is on Left4Dead.

i think you'll find monster hunter freedom 2nd g will be goty. it's already sold more copies than there are people in japan ;)

Thread seems to be slowing down....er...what to say....what to say!?!?

I know....

Did any muppets order the special edition and spend 70 quid to get a bunch of stuff they can't use and will look like pillocks when they show their friends?

Anyone who ordered from Play.com recieve their copies this morning?

@Dizzy

Shit! i had forgot about that one. Damn. Yes Left4Dead will be fantastic. GOTY candidate for sure.

My personal GOTY will be Ninja Gaiden 2. Dont think its stand a chance as GOTY by the press though.

Nice. I look forward to the PC release.

@seasidebaz

I got it from a friend that works in a gamestore. People that works in gamestores and gamedistributers naturally get to play games before release. Thats not very strange is it?

And about Monster Hunter. Thats a game that will do very well there but not so much elsewhere. I can promise you it wont even be a candidate for GOTY.

@penhalion

One muppet right here, though it was £60 and ive more money than sense :)

Actually lookin forward to the soundtrack CD, plus ive got uses for the bag (bank robberies, drug smuggling, baby kidnapping...)

Grand Meh Auto.... I'd rather watch Jeremy Kyle tbh.

10/10. Well done Rockstar.

And now to read the review....

"But no, everyone is to scared to do that, because if their opinion differs from the majority, they'll be getting heat they can't handle. "

Absolutely. I bet EuroGamer were literally quaking with fear at the thought of all that 'heat'. Just imagine if they game it 7/10 and their website got even more hits? Good Lord, it doesn't bear thinking about. The heat! It haunts my dreams!

Wait...you don't suppose it might just be...a really good game?

No. What am I thinking. It could only be a mass conspiracy. Obviously.

I don't think there is any external pressure on reviewers when big games like this come out. The pressure is more "internal": every once in a while the industry as a whole needs this type of hyped hysteria everyone seems to agree on. The benefits are for all.

Eurogamer made the big time...a mention from the BBC along with the NY Times :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/73...

@ warzin Bet they don't. It's not against the law to buy a game early, just to SELL it early.

It's not even that, once someone has sold you something you are entitled to sell it, how ever good luck getting take2 to supply you anymore.

@Buztafen

finally someone on these forums who isn't taking this stuff too seriously. :)

I thought the bag was cool but, realised that using it in public was like tatooing a sign on my forehead saying "Candidate for most uncool guy in hstory"

I didn't really enjoy GTA III when I tried it but I have to admit this sounds quite good. I also enjoyed Crackdown which isn't exactly the same but I'm pretty sure that I could use another sandbox game like this.

spoke to my local blockbuster on saturday and they just said "pay for the game + £50 on top and you can have your copy"... I didn't buy it. I am a master of self control + it was at least 22 degrees.