Grand Theft Auto IV Comments by Tom Bramwell

I cannot wait for the head 2 head that thread will be like a car crash, you will want to look away but you can't. messy!

Madlax - EG may not have mentioned differences between the games because they didn't see any or perhaps they only reviewed the Xbox 360 version?

Whatever, most of the other reviews only mention that the PS3 version is slightly better because it has less noticeable pop-in not that it is massively superior so the differences are very minor and may not be noticed by everyone. Not that it really matters because both platforms have got a great game so everyone can enjoy it regardless of the console they own.

Amen! :)

Rash, it is possible for sane, grown adults to purchase something and enjoy it without foaming at the mouth whenever someone offers a differing opinion about it or its competition in the market place.

Then you have people like Madlax.

Besides, if you look at my game collection (and take it as gospel) then it's pretty obvious I'm a Civ enthusiast if I'm an enthusiast for any game, let alone gaming system. Although, to be fair to you, I am enthusiastic about my 360. In that it's the only console I own and I enjoy playing on it from time to time. But that's very, very different from being an aggressive enthusiast on a web page. I don't feel the need to trumpet any positives of the 360 - the entertainment comes from reading the insanity that spouts forth from the fingers of the fully-fledged fanbois. And as the PS3 camp seems to be occupied by those with the greatest inferiority complexes it is from that side that I get the most laughs and direct the most baiting venom.

Anyway, kettle's boiled now.

It should be clear by now that we should expect BOTH versions suffer from framerate and pop-in issues here and there, although the PS3 also gets a mandatory install that reduces the pop-in. This is the idea I have coming from several reviews, not just Eurogamer's...

Hardly anything worth getting fussed about...

How about we all just enjoy the game come tuesday, eh?

And in Violition's offices on Tuesday ... crying and self doubt.

Swedish Gamereactor have just published their review (gamereactor.se). They were very suprised that 360 version is lacking so much technically. According to them PS3 version has better colours, framerate, less pop-in, loadtimes and texture resolution. Looking forward to the Eurogamer comparisons now.

I must get that GTAIV thingy, i want to see perfection with my own eyes.

Or to be accurate, i wish to see 'perfection' in Eurogamers eyes. ;)

"I must get that GTAIV thingy, i want to see perfection with my own eyes.

Or to be accurate, i wish to see 'perfection' in Eurogamers eyes. ;) "

yes you do that madlax, you do that....

/ backs away slowly...

Something is missing from the review.

What, no tearing?!? \0/

/looks for tears in the fabric of the space time continuum.

Genuinely surprised the PS3 version has the edge in visuals and with free online play im glad i pre-ordered the PS3 version :)

Well certainly seems worth 10/10. Online multiplayer is bound to be heaps of fun. :)

KHANIVOR

this "fanboi" shit is so childish. i couldnt care less for the 360, ps3 or whatever. nobody in this thread is raving on about which console is better, aside from you

grow up "boi"

Finally, and after the Assassins Creed debacle, something actually appears to have lived up to the hype.
Amen to that and roll on Tuesday.

So when did IGN become a credible source of information? Not that EG's or any game site reviews carry much credibility. :/

Alter Schwede! I'm looking forward to Tuesday. BTW, 1st of May is Holiday in Germanay! ;-P

"I ain't no 360 enthusiast"

Only thing Khavinor gets enthusiastic about are spelling mistakes and the rising prices of trailers.

Guess I'll be picking this up once I'm finished my studies then!

ok, about the head2head, i hope it will be an informative article.

no doubt we will still get the fanbois though.

in all seriousness, if you are arguing about which console it is better on, then you are too young to purchase this game. it is there to be enjoyed on both consoles, and the two games will be pretty much identical.

i know i, for one, am looking forward to playing it on my ps3. apart from that stupid "hold l1 in halfway" control.

While I do agree the PS3 version looks ever so sightly better, we are forgetting that come August Xbox owners are going to be enjoying DLC where the PS3 guys won't.

Normally that's no big deal, but with a game of this stature, it could be absolutely huge.

oh, and fwiw, apparently the ps3 wins anyway. metareview

"I love it how you mention the PS3 install time yet speak absolutely nothing about the clear technical advantages the PS3 version has...i cant wait for the ps3 vs 360 article farce (Sponsored by our beloved Microsoft). "

You can already find some on the net.... sponsored by MS ofc.

http://kotaku.com/384422/which-version-o...

185th!

I managed to get to the review with no problems.

It is a shame if you cannot install to the Xbox HDD to make the game run more easily. I wish there were save-points during the missions. It used to make me see red mist when I'd get through a large portion of a mission, make mistakes which were of course, NEVER my fault, and then find I had to then repeat the WHOLE thing all over again - but this time with added tension, making me screw up even more quickly. :-(

I've always enjoyed just fannying around in GTA, more than the actual story, so I'd be interested to know how much of the stuff that begins locked in single-player mode, begins unlocked at the beginning of free-play mode.

This does look great though. However, I didn't pre-order so I might have to wait for a bit before I can get a copy.

These threads all always an interesting look into the real-world application, (or not) of the concept of reading comprehension.

The comparison thread ought to make educators weep :(

Looks like it's going to be good.

Why does everyone on here spell 'boy' with an I instead of a Y, What is the point? Do you think it make's you look all hip and 'with it' because it doesn't you know?

@TheBiGW
"PS3 has 7 minute install time
PS3 is slightly smoother

360 has slight pop-up
360 has achievements
360 has DLC"

Out of interest, has it ever been said that the PS3 wouldnt get any DLC? I know that Microsoft paid for two exclusive parts, but what about afterwards?

Anyone got any ideas?

"These threads all always an interesting look into the real-world application, (or not) of the concept of reading comprehension.

The comparison thread ought to make educators weep :( "

Like your grammar you mean?

"I won't have a word said against kotaku."

Kotaku, dango bana no kuma musume.

That's a spelling mistake you spaz...

Re DLC: Microsoft paid $50 million for the 360-only content, and will probably charge for it, so it is no issue in the decision really. Other DLC for both platforms is bound to happen - even Folklore on PS3 gets tons of it. DLC is the new multiplayer, or something.

elvenscroll, if I was a betting man (which I'm not) I wouldn't bet against it happening.

@swam:
since when installation time is a big deal problem?
spoilt console children :P

You made a spelling mistake too?

BATTON DOWN THE HATCHES.

There's a lot of sandy vaginas in here...

/bored

Actually I'd better stop trolling now, that's quite a few.

@AOFanboi
"Re DLC: Microsoft paid $50 million for the 360-only content, and will probably charge for it, so it is no issue in the decision really. Other DLC for both platforms is bound to happen - even Folklore on PS3 gets tons of it. DLC is the new multiplayer, or something. "

So in theory Rockstar could release DLC for PS3 at the same time, as long as its different to the exclusive £50mil 360 one? Presumably then, all future DLC would end up on the 360, and all but two would be on the PS3.

Unless i've missed something.

Nice review, however when did Oblivion ever stand on GTA's shoulders? Surely it's standing on Arena's & Daggerfall's & Morrowind's shoulders as a logical progression for the series...

cthulhu_steev: I didn't mean it like that. I meant that, compared to other games where popup and slowdown really *are* issues, the popup and slowdown in GTA4 are so minor as to only really be pointed out in the aim of balance. After all, it is only a game and there must be some bad points :) Had similar amounts of slowdown/popup as are in GTA4 been apparent in other games then it would have been overlooked.

Didn't mean it in a ps3 vs 360 fanboi way at all.

Whats that 360 has the best graphics you say? HAHA Im joking they are "virtually identical" as said by pretty much everybody, my god some of these Sonybots are desperate for a small victory though eh? :D... IGN dont know their ass from their elbow(better anti-aliasing on the PS3 version is he stupid or what? absolute rubbish) there are some MINOR differences which are:

360 Version:
Smoother/better framerate
Richer Colours
Slightly better anti-aliasing(shaper)

PS3 Version:
Faster Loading
Less pop-in


So personally Id take the 360 version since there could be patches for the pop-in for that version later down the road, framerate is harder to fix(but I take it they both have it anyway just the 360 version is a little smoother as expected), theres also the DLC down the road too if its any good.

Turned out better than I was expecting then GTA:IV, I had a feeling it would be an 8-9 kind of reveiw, so I suppose thats good news. :D

Who gives a fuck which one is slightly better ?

Is anyone really going to be sat there with it running on both PS3 and 360, on 2 TV's, at the same time ? Going through both with a fine toooth comb saying "whoa, there was 0.005% FPS difference there when I stuck the baseball bat in that drug dealer's head" ?

I think not. Just buy the game, play the game, and fucking enjoy it.

Dull review, I almost fell asleep reading it.

Other than that..10/10, wehhey!

Yeah true I'd rather hear EG's comparison anyway since we know they are fair and thorough with them(some reviewers dont know what they are talking about it has to be said too), the differences are minor which means they arent worth getting worked up about folks... relax there isnt a "best" version technically.

after reading all these comments, frankly i got pretty annoyed by all the bloody 360 vs PS3 fanboy nonsense. seriously, can we stop talking about it?

the review was decent, if a little unstructured and lacking the usual charisma of EG reviews, but i'll let it slide because it did try to go over as many features as possible. i really don't think any reviews matter at this point because i know pretty much everyone with a 360 or PS3 is going to buy this game, and if not then they are complete JERKS!

i don't know if i'm going to stay up to buy it at the stroke of midnight, because i know if i do i'll just end up playing it all night and feel like shit the next day at work. i could just wait til tuesday and play it on the 360 in work (i work at a games studio, it has its perks...)

so if indeed i do decide to get it at midnight, does anyone know where it can be had for £40? i'm guessing game and gamestation will be asking £50. think tesco will be £40?

@stoopidgreg
+1

Or to be accurate, i wish to see 'perfection' in Eurogamers eyes. ;) "

Or to be even more accurate, i wish to see a game Eurogamer see as being worthy the highest accolade they can bestow. A 10/10 review score does not mean the game is perfect, it simply means it's on a level with the best games ever made. Perfection is unatainable, so if you could only give 10/10 to a 'perfect' game there would be no point having a 10 point scale. You'd basically be rating every game out of 9, which would be a bit silly, frankly.

Quite clearly this score was predetermined, and they just had to find a way of writing a review around it.

Why are so many people so sure that they can give a more accurate appraisal of this game than the people who have actually played it? Is it really so desperately hard to believe that the flagship game of one of the world's best studios, which has had a mighty budget and plenty of time to polish it, might actually just be really good? Why not just be excited about it? I am.

Bland review, but as expected hilariously pointless comments. 207 already!

lol

Who gives a fuck which one is slightly better ?

People who own both systems.

Is anyone really going to be sat there with it running on both PS3 and 360, on 2 TV's, at the same time ? Going through both with a fine toooth comb saying "whoa, there was 0.005% FPS difference there when I stuck the baseball bat in that drug dealer's head" ?

No of course not, I'm only going to buy it once so I want the nicest version, even if it's only marginal.


I think not. Just buy the game, play the game, and fucking enjoy it.

Yes, but on which system? Am leaning towards 360 for DLC and a wider friends network, but if the loading times are much shorter on PS3 I might well swing back again.

bugger... Not sure whether to get ps3 version too! I've ordered x360 version for dlc and xbox live multiplayer ( sorry Sony but your servers are shit for multiplayer despite what everyone says! Try and get on mgs online beta or ut3 capture flag times out).

But on the flipside if ps3 has less pop in then it may be worth getting for single player.. Mind you didn't bother me too much with mass effect.... Oh sod it I will stick with just the 360 version and spend the rest at the pub:-)

#212st!!!

damnit, a bit too late

Getting this on midnight from Game. Tuesday off. In the words of Sean Connery himself...Sphhlendid