Grand Theft Auto IV Comments by Tom Bramwell

nice. all is good.

boo, missed opportunity for internet kerplosion!

Dear me, EG and it's users have just re-afirmed why EG is no longer bookmarked on my PC.

When are games sites going to grow up and cater for a mature audience rather than stirring up sad, little fanboys.

Why are so many of the people in this comments section so sad?

I came on here hoping to find people excitedely discussing their thoughts on the game and the review but instead find countless idiots deperate to uncover some difference between the two formats. It really is so sad.

Even more annoying is the fact that virtually every review has claimed that they are identical already.

Please give it up and just enjoy the game.

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the single player campaign and can honestly say I've not had as much fun in a game for a very very long time. This review barely touches the half of it. It is an absolute masterpiece and has done for GTA on next gen what GTA3 did on the PS2. Game of the year without a doubt, and fully deserves to out-sell Iron Man and teach Hollywood a lesson on how to entertain people.

Kotaku says that framerate is better on 360,oh and yes good review eurogamer

as I said before:
GTA IV PS3 10/10
GTA IV Xbox360 10/10
if it had came out on the Wii it would be 10/10

Sad fanboys idiots. Enjoy the game in whichever system you have and shut up. If you have more than one system then buy for the other systems too then shut up.

good review. 10/10 was there really any doubt :)

'Fanboys' get a lot of stick, but brand loyalty and debate is a sign of healthy competition in any industry; be it videogames, pc hardware, mp3 players... whatever.

More annoying than fanboys are those so far up their own arse that they feel the need to jump up and down about ps3/360 debates. Its just a bit of fun, the main forum is better for serious discussions.

if EG are doing a face off between 360 n ps3, then its up for discussion

btw i have ps360, so fo

So, cars then. How many do people reckon? I think it is pretty cool that, unless I am mistaken, cars now come in different conditions. Which is very cool. That's even more variety to be had.

Seen what looks like a Lambo in one of the vids. What else have people seen?

I hope you're joking tirer, because my thoughts on your repeated comments are: so fucking what?

You remind me of a Jewish mother, except that a Jewish mother is usually obsessed about jewelry, her son's dinner or her daughter getting married... things that, while seemingly insignificant and petty, are much more worthwhile than what you deem important enough to emphasize over and over again.

While at first I was annoyed at the comments saying "I'm mature and as such I am above the pathetic and childish picayune niggling - now if you'll excuse me I'm off to the cigar room to have a sherry", I'm starting to agree with the people who wrote them.

From everything i've read PS3 - 360 differences are minimal.
PS3 has quicker load times and less pop-in, 360 has better colours

I have both so can choose either. I'm going for 360 because i prefer the on-line system, and have more friends on XBL.

Oh and the downloadable episodes - which no-one seems to be mentioning.

"Oh and the downloadable episodes - which no-one seems to be mentioning."

You must've had your head in a bucket this past week.

Excellent - You somehow managed to make it sound like the PS3 was one again getting the shite version without really mentioning how it compared to the 360 version at all...

Who cares. Every single site has stated that the PS3 version has less issues i could do a list but wy bother. Search and you shall fnd.

EG and Kotaku can say what they want to be honest its their site but when all the other sites say otherwise i will lean towards the majority.

When they actually say wtf the downloadable episodes contain I might be interested. I'm not going to chose the 360 version simply because there is something coming later in the year.

des, Actually, Kotaku say the PS3 version has the "performance edge".

The first two things I am looking forward to doing in GTA 4.

1 Try the new physics by some traffic "accident"s.
2 Listening to the radio stations.

/Doesnt give a crap as to which version is superior.

@ Des - While the Kataku review states better framerate on 360 - overall it states performance is better on the PS3.

As long as the PS3 version isn't inferior to 360 version I really couldn't give a crap.

Buy GTA IV or get a degree? Hmmmm.....tricky one.

Why are people posting EG prefer the 360 version? I read nothing in the review to suggest that.

Me neither Rash - there was no mention the 360 version was better, it stated about framerate problems but although the review wasn't too well written, seemed to suggest it was on both versions.

Anyone trying to hype one version as being better than the others in terms of graphics is being slightly unrealisitc. All of the footage thus far has been from the 360 version and it looks excellent, I expect whatever differences there are to be minimal. The 360 version is said to have a better frame rate and colours, where as the PS3 version has less loading and less pop in. I doubt *any* of these things will be noticeable by the average gamer, or even a side by side comparsion.

The fanboy comments are just sad.

If it helps - the Gamespy review also now states the PS3 suffers from less graphical issues.

@Binglybob

Ah you to? I get all my 4 take home papers on the 29th. Final year, final exams and GTA4.

Fantastic timing lol

Well, from my own point of view I was just being a bit over-sensitive on the subject. The mention the PS3's mandatory instal and then starting talking about graphical issues. The way it was put sounds rather like they were singling out the PS3 version - especially if you have read a lot of the comparison articles:-)

"Buy GTA IV or get a degree? Hmmmm.....tricky one."

LOL - It was Grand Turismo on PS1 that did that for me. I bought it and settled for a Desmond.

Now I'm old and working, it wasn't a big decision to book a day off...

I wouldn't worry about which one to buy.

Apparently both have some framerate issues, with the 360 version having a little extra pop-in but nothing that would ruin the game.

The 360 version is meant to be richer in colour but the PS3 version is arguably a bit sharper.

Elsewhere, the 360 has the DLC coming which is an advantage if you're willing to fork out for it.

I'm gonna get the 360 version because of the more comprehensive online network and the fact that I have a headset. Plus achievements are always nice.

I'm sure all these differences (minus the DLC) will be negligible and the game will be amazing.

By the way that info I got from IGN, probably not the most reliable source but it's their job to identify any flaws so I think it's probably reliable.

See you online!!

Fucking sad fanboi cunts, die in fires.

@Greebo
lol thats me...big mistake/luck getting gta 4 early... my degree is going out of the window surely

I think I will get the XBOX 360 version to. I'm not sure if the Playstation version would work in my XBOX so better safe that sorry.

See? It wasn't just me that thought the review was worded poorly, there have been a few who have said the same now.
It didn't get that much better past the first page either.
It's not something I've picked up on with ANY EG reviews before now, but this one was a bit of a chore to get through.
Will the multi player get its own feature? It was barely touched on here, and from the previews I've read it sounds amazing.

PS3 has 7 minute install time
PS3 is slightly smoother

360 has slight pop-up
360 has achievements
360 has DLC

Horses for courses. Pays yer money and makes ya choice.

Honestly - the pop-up and slow-downs have really only been mentioned because reviews generally have to have balance. Had this been *any other game* the pop-up and slow down would not have been mentioned at all as, in all honesty, it really isnt much of an issue. I can't think of a single instance in the game where popup or slowdown has taken away from the atmosphere or the immersion in the game world. And that is what this game is all about.

Play it on tuesday, don't worry about popup or slowdowns and enjoy the game for what it is - a truly next gen title and the new benchmark which will likely stand until GTA5.

One thing I've seen in both the reviews I've read is the thing about Niko being a more sympathetic and likeable character - I really like the idea of this as I'm a bit sick of playing bordeline sociapathic arseholes in these games.

Anyway it sounds fantastic - I'm not sure quite how well the daft humour will fit with the more serious storyline, though.

"Anyway it sounds fantastic - I'm not sure quite how well the daft humour will fit with the more serious storyline, though"

Seeing as the creators are British I am sure they will do just fine in weaving the absurd with the darker the stuff in keeping with much of comedy.

Good review, wish I had a system to play the game on! I've a slight bone of contention with the start of the article though, although I'm probably being pedantic. I don't really think Oblivion was standing on Rockstar's shoulders, you see. I think that game had a lot more in common with the previous Elder Scrolls games, two of which were released before the original GTA. I doubt Bethesda would list GTA3 as one of their main influences either.

wintersnowblind and khanivor, that's a bit hypocrital. you two are the most aggressive 360 enthusiasts on these page. (Dizzy not withstanding of course)

Great live stream right here">http://www.justin.tv/gta4eva">here

I ain't no 360 enthusiast, just take pleasure in winding up the PS3 fanbois.

/makes another chalk mark

Anyway, it was a general comment about the fanbois who are already focusing more on which version is better than on how much better the actual game is. Mentalists. Ya'll should have a real wank than this virtual stuff.

I hope this saves Take Two from the evil EA. I mean with every site giving this a 10/10 and without a doubt every hardcore gamer getting it, only the Wii playing casuals are left who need to pick up a 360 or PS3 now, to make GTAIV sales massive enough to kick EA in the crotch!

Go GTAIV, Go!

TheBigW: "Had this been *any other game* the pop-up and slow down would not have been mentioned at all as, in all honesty, it really isnt much of an issue"

I trust you haven't read any of the X360 VS PS3 front page car crashes then?

PS3 games regularly get laughed off the screen for having frame rate issues - though always by the usual suspects, of course.

Good to see a 10/10 from a review site I trust, was a little wary of the gratuitous (and wholly expected) 10/10s from less reliable sources.

I look forward to giving it a bash on Tuesday :)

Haha...eurogamer !!! you never cease to amaze me, 10/10 !! didnt we all know that by now. ;)

I love it how you mention the PS3 install time yet speak absolutely nothing about the clear technical advantages the PS3 version has...i cant wait for the ps3 vs 360 article farce (Sponsored by our beloved Microsoft).

Its amazing what can cash do to people, it molds them, shapes them, to something yielding.....but you are forgiven EG, for you are not the only one. ;)

In the end, its up to each one of us to make the choice, and vote with our cash, and i hope that we would all vote for 'free online gaming', or so i hope. ;)

Enjoy the read puppets, its a wonderfull age we are living in...after saddam hussein phenomenol elections in iraq where he gained an 'honest' vote result of 99.98% of the population, i never though anyone can break that record. for surely perfection is impossible...no ?

But i was wrong....beloved Eurogamer just proved me wrong. ;)

10/10 FTW !!!

khanivor, (looks at games collection) I believe you. Millions wouldn't. ;o)

Madlax... what the bloomin' hell are you talking about?

madlax has some deep issues :)

yeah. what was he on about ?

A head to head next week?

Unless by 'next week' you mean Monday then it's going to be too fricking late!!