Gran Turismo HD Concept Comments by Tom Bramwell

No.

looks very nice

4WD drifting in that Youtube video :(

Is Vin Diesel in this ?

4WD drifting. Different tyres on the front and back. :D

Is Isla Fisher in this ?

It looks nice at 1080p :)

reasonable price, no doubt :)

That first screenshot looks a lot like some awkward montage.

Are those real screenshots? It looks incredible :O

I've been playing this a bit at work (y'know, research purposes).

Looks very nice. Plays the same as ever though. Which is to say it's a bit soul-less, although the handling is like what a real car is.
720p via HDMI makes things shiny.

The car models are excellent - but I wish Polyphony would mess them up a bit. After 10 laps, your motor still looks like it stepped out of salon.

Are those real screenshots? It looks incredible :O

Think so, but I believe things like the spectators & trees are simply high-res digitised textures (i.e. cardboard), which rather dulls the impact. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this whole thing simply an upscaled version of GT3 (or is it 4 they're up to now?) to run at hi-def resolution?

The graphics are indeed incredible when you watch a replay. The camera angle and the effects work very, very well. When you play it though it is still nice but not really all that exciting. Look for some videos on google, there is a huge difference between playing and watching a replay. But yeah, the replays look incredible.

'Sideways action so good Paul Giamatti's having a sulk.'

PISSWEAK

Eiger Nordwand is a fine set of roads, set on the side of a hill. A Swedish hill with a photograph of some mountains in the background.

Swiss Mountain (That I skied down in December). The buildings are here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleine_Sche...

http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co...

I took this photo for someone of GTHD running at 1080p...
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/...

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this whole thing simply an upscaled version of GT3 (or is it 4 they're up to now?) to run at hi-def resolution?

No it's 1080p native, GT4 supported upto 1080i so i guess it isn't that big of a leap... or is it?

this game is indeed up scaled from gt4, makes you realise what a triumph gt4 was on the ps2.

Think so, but I believe things like the spectators & trees are simply high-res digitised textures (i.e. cardboard), which rather dulls the impact. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this whole thing simply an upscaled version of GT3 (or is it 4 they're up to now?) to run at hi-def resolution?

neither the spectators nor the trees are 2d, some of the people actualy walk around nea the track, waving flags and taking photos.

I'm supprised the writer of the review didin't mention more about the oniline leaderboards. There are leaderboards for all 60 combinations (forward/reverse, different cars, time trial/drift). Also you can stream replays for any of the top 10.

I am slightly unsure why Polyphony keep resetting the leaderboards though, seems to happen about once per week (so i have to keep regaining my top 10 place on Lotus Elise, Drift, Reverse).

HazyUK, that is one very stunning photograph.

Perhaps Gran Turismo is still stuck in the past in terms of gameplay but the graphics have always been ahead of the competition and it shows.

The point is you play a game for the gameplay not to look at pretty graphics surely?

I thought GT4 on the PS2 was boring once I'd played it a few hours and got the best cars. As a package for car enthusiasts it's terrific but as a game it just wasn't all that good. I really hope Polyphony Digital radically improve the game for the PS3 as the PS2 versions were a disappointment in my opinion, showing very little advance over the PSone originals except for those graphics. Shame about the lack of rumble in PS3 controllers though, it really added to the feel of the PS2 games and I suspect many people will miss it in GT5...

In a game that is basically car pornography, graphics are very important I'd say.

Awesome free game.

As in all the GT games the actual 'game' is quite boring, absolutely sleep inducing when racing against the (liminted number of) AI 'competitors'. However, racing around in a car on your own is interesting for a while (which is a repeatable experience with different cars) but the real longevity of GT is racing against people who are as good as yourself.

Come on Polyphony, maybe spend a bit of time on the AI next? Maybe allow AI cars in two-player events? Maybe do something next time?

Drift Mode mayhem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7pPdEoiols

Yeah I completed GT4 100% but of the (quite considerable) time that took I would say only 25% of it was any fun. They need to stop forcing you to race stupidly long races in annoyingly crap cars to unlock the interesting stuff - I drive a crap car every day of my life thanks - don't want to do it in games too :/

Great.

/coughs politely

ahem...

WHERE'S THE FUCKING PSP VERSION!

/looks at Play pre-order forlornly

there is so much going on under the hood of gt4. sweet replays, the AI is built like this. if you are an expert than your main challengers are the 2 top cars, i.e. p1 and p2, if you are of medium capability, then you are up against the p3 and p4 cars and if you are a beginner then you're main challenger is the car in p5. Other things is the steering wheel, so much feedback it's unreal.

Sure, they could have added in trye marks, and damage and improved the AI but at the cost of losing other bits of the game. mostly the quality of the replays. And i have played Forza motorsport which i will say is sweet. I reckong that most likely with all the power available under the ps3, GT5 will come will all the bells and whistles to make it sell. the only thing that pissed me off to no-end was the lack of rumble of the pad. not that i play with the pad, i play using the driving force pro wheel but to remove the rumble is criminal in my opinion and IF forza 2 delivers in all areas (for me it has to be the replays) because i like to see all the effort i put into a race in all its glory then i will stay away from GT5 and also time is an issue. why must i wait for a whole year when i could be playing online from spring 2007 and an established online community.

Well it certainly LOOKS impressive.

meh

sounds like a proper racing game.. I hate those

Is my Logitech Driving Force wheel working with force feedback?!?

"Gran Turismo may sell in stupid quantities, but it's often felt like a bit of a ruse. Its distinguishing characteristic wasn't really that it was "the real driving simulator". The biggest gains weren't made because you'd practiced stopping distances in a Mazda; they were made because you'd cunningly shunted a Skyline out of the final turn. You didn't fight your way to the top of the racing ladder by perfecting your line through hairpins; you did it by doing the same winnable race over and over again until you'd bought every car under the sun."

Some very good observations by Tom!

Forza 2 will be the new daddy, then again gt5 won't be out for another 2 yrs

GT ranks up there with Riiiidgger Raacccer and Metal Gear in the "why should I get excited, I've paid for an played this before" bracket for me.

welcome to the next gen = oooh shiny.

Meh

Lookes fant-obly-tastic. Looks better than forza 2.

Whether it will play better is something else all together.

GT ranks up there with Riiiidgger Raacccer and Metal Gear in the "why should I get excited, I've paid for an played this before" bracket for me.

I'm sorry what?

Belm

That clearer?

Everytime i see a GT game i cant get the effort up to play it, the game looks great and always has but the AI is terrible and more like a rolling roadblock. If they sorted that out and made it more like GTR or even Forza then i'd happily buy a ps3 just for it.

WTF is Belm?

/is absolutely clueless

Ridge Racer and GT I understand where your coming from, and if you said that between MGS1 - MGS2 i would have seen your point but not MGS3 and even moreso MGS4.

It looks terrific. There's some magic quality to the graphics of the GT series noone else in the genre comes even close to. Unfortunately.

Forza is so much more enjoyable than the empty-eyed beauty that GT4 is/was, but give me El Capitan, any car and the amazing Logitech GT Force Pro and we're talking.

The idea is simple: instead of trying to go round the track quickly, you have to try and "drift" as effectively as possible through corners, with each one measuring your ability by handing out up to a few-thousand points. Leave the track completely though and your corner's worth of points evaporate

Maybe this is why they've been advertising it with Project Gotham screenshots!

"the AI is built like this. if you are an expert than your main challengers are the 2 top cars"

Sorry? If you are quite good at GT, there is NO competition whatsoever from the AI cars, they are quite simply rubbish.

Holy shit.

That looks fucking amazing. Hazy - that photo is excellent. I can't remember being so impressed by a game before. It's just a shame I don't like the GT series :/

Still, that is crazy realistic.

Logitech Driving Force?
Force Feedback?
Anyone?

No, FFB in GT:HD. The wheel is supported for steering though.

The strange thing is the F1 demo supports FFB on the Driving Force Pro 2. I know...weird eh?

...oh and currently ranking 24th' ish in the world on the G35. ;)



PS, Haven't checked if they fixed that with version 1.1, but i doubt it.

This has a "TBA" release date hasn't it ?

Well Forza 2 IS coming out on 2nd / June.


/wonders how PS-only players cope with the continuous wait... and wait, and yet... more wait... just a few more months... or maybe next year...! yeah next year is the year!/

Really enjoying this - Makes me wish they'd do some other tracks...

@canadian-mike.... hi. are you saying that F1 championship edition supports full force feedback? i heard through gamespot that it does not. And GT5 HD is not supporting Full Force Feedback. I am assuming that you have played both the games with the wheel. Please fill me in.