Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Comments by Tom Bramwell
Running rings around the PAL version.
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I never, ever found any enjoyment out of all the tuning stuff - yeah, give me upgrades to spend my in-game cash on, but really - sometimes detail can be a bit too in-depth. Each to their own though...
Personally I think I'll be giving this a miss until GT5 proper comes along. It's certainly not going to persuade me to buy a PS3 any time soon. |
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Dear reviewer :),
There are 40 race-events spread through 4 clases (review states "30 race events are split evenly across three classes"). Fourth, S class opens after you finish C, B and A event venues. Just for information though. If you're really intrested in details, here is the full lowdown on all the facts regarding PAL GT5: P release (you have to be registred in order to see the pictures). Including the fact that PAL GT5: P comes with plethora of new cars, including Ferrari's F1 car from 2007 season. http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread...
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/03/08 @ 11:48
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THANK GOD! AT LAST A RACING GAME WHERE WE CAN ADJUST THE CAMBER ANGLES!
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My....what an unusually boring read.
comparing the online component to that of another system...eh ? Basic online ? isnt that what we had in PC gaming for ages ? did they forget that you can play GT:5p online for free without having to pay for a peer-2-peer service ? "And is there a reason that the shots of GT5 you have here the shittiest graphics I've ever seen in a racing game? " go play forza 2 and tell me that again. Sony should increase there marketing budget for the game to include gaming sites, reviews like these are not acceptable. writing reviews is a business-after all. they should really spend more cash to hype games. |
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So is GT5 "proper" going to go up against Forza 3 do we think? GT5 would be the tipping point for many, including myself, purchasing a PS3, but if Forza comes along, I might just stick with my 360. Y'know, assuming the graphics are better this time.
Am I the only one who thinks it would be fun to have a racing game where you drive SHIT cars around? I don't mean like Destruction Derby, but where I can race my 12 yr old Rover 400 against my mate's Ford Fiesta? I mean, it wouldn't be fast, but it would be fun. OK, I sound like a chav now... |
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"There are 40 race-events spread through 4 clases (review states "30 race events are split evenly across three classes"). Fourth, S class opens after you finish C, B and A event venues. "
Yes, it says that in the text if you read to the end of the following paragraph. "What a strange review, first you compare it against a full game, then it offers a lot of content for the asking price, and then you blame the game for not having features that are integrated into the XMB, which isn't the games' fault." I don't blame it for not having features integrated into the XMB, I point out that multiplayer games are remarkably difficult to enjoy without any way to find your friends. "I'm sorry, but no; it's not acceptable." I said "excepted", not "accepted". |
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Unfortunately, games are product so to those who are wondering what i mean by my words. this is how every industry works. i,m surprised there are people asking
the media can easily shape the perception of potential buyers of any game, an average game that is hyped by the media will easily outsell a higher quality game with less recognition. see Halo 3 as an example of an above-average game selling high figures. marketing a game through gaming sites reviews, blogs and even forums is common in such a competitive market. i dont see whats surprising. |
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Clive Dunn
17/03/08 @ 12:16
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"those who are wondering what i mean by my words"
That'll be everyone with half a brain then ? |
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ParanoidZombie
17/03/08 @ 12:18
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Bottom line: will the final version of GT5 be Prologue with more cars (including the mandatory 65 versions of the almighty Nissan Skyline), more tracks (Deep Forest 10th anniversary), Dual Shock3 and Home integration (hopefully), or can we expect some new significant groundbreaking stuff to be added (I don't know, dynamic weather a la PGR4, destructible cars, new modes or whatever)?
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Has the racing got any better?
Driving in GT has always been good to great, but the racing department was always pretty much shit. Racers stuck to the perfect line and you can just win a race by just overtaking them at the first turn... no trace of IA whatsoever. If this can get the racing part right, I'm all for it... |
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stoopidgreg
17/03/08 @ 12:26
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looks alright, but more tracks would have been preferred over more cars. i would rather 10 cars and 10 tracks than the 70 cars and 6 tracks... not that i'm buying it anyway since i don't own a PS3 =)
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@Peew971
"So you're actually standing by your words O_o You're saying games should be scored accordingly with the amount of money thrown at the reviewers, that's just sick." Thats how the industry works...sick ? maybe, but thats how it is in every competitive market. quality is a 'vague' term and can be manipulated by the media. heck, word of mouth and forum posters may have more effect on the sales of a game than its actual quality. I dont personally like it this way, but thats how it is. what the 'product' is matters not...what people think of it is what matters, just look how many average games we have now managed to get excellent sales through hype and 'objective' reviews/articles. |
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Sulphur_Man
17/03/08 @ 12:30
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Seriously depressing. Not the review, the game.
Forget all the guff about the effort gone into GT5 as a simulation, the car models, the polygon count, yadda yadda yadda..... and realise that GT5 has failed on the one area it needed, actually HAD, to deliver - online gameplay. Of course it was going to be stunning to look at, it's predecessors all took their respective hardware platforms to places we didnt know existed, and GT5 seems the same. But for the online element to be described as 'stillborn' makes GT5 a total failure. |
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Agent_Llama
17/03/08 @ 12:40
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The trouble with GT5 is it appears lack any personality whatsoever. I played the Japanese demo, and whilst it was great to have more cars on track etc, the whole experience was rather cold. Still not sold on this, would rather wait for the full game - whatever that entails.
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@ParanoidZombie - Based on the GT HD and Japanese GT5 Prologue demo I've played, I'd have to say personally that I think PGR 4 is the better looking game IMO given that it sacrifices the framerate (30 fps vs. 60 fps of GT5) for more detail, including weather and minor damage modelling. That said the difference isn't as huge as I expected and GT5 does manage more cars onscreen and 1080p too. Both are great-looking games though and piss on Forza 2's bland looks from a great height! Still Forza 2 is definitely the "real driving simulation" despite GT5's inaccurate tagline and plays much better than it looks fortunately.
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seasidebaz
17/03/08 @ 12:55
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@darren:
forza2 being the real driving simulation? hmmmm not quite, i've yet to see a ford focus outrun a saleen s7 in the real world... |
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squarejawhero
17/03/08 @ 13:06
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People still comparing PGR4 to GT? Are you all retarded or something?
Graphically, yes, the cars in GT are MARGINALLY better looking, but PGR4 is one of the best looking games on any system, period. Plus they're COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT GAMES. Compare away to Forza, which might have poorer graphics but very, very realistic physics (it's a hardcore driver). But leave PGR4 out of it, douchebags. |
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@seasidebaz - I was meaning Forza 2 is more realistic in the A.I., physics, handling and damage modelling department and I doubt GT5 will come close to it personally. It's not perfect admittedly but it's the best attempt yet at making a driving simulation on a console IMO and the developers have sacrificed the visuals in order to achieve that.
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RandolphScott
17/03/08 @ 13:26
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It does seem a strange review. I had no idea whether the score was going to be 5 or 9 from reading it.
And why (pray) is it unacceptable to drop framerate? Or should that be unexpectable? |
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