God of War III Comments by John Gaudiosi

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In Katamari you started at golf ball size and you grew to planet size. That's one game that does scale better than you guys.

Planets. Beat that.

Come on Sony do you never learn. It's a long way off, don't overkill the hype. Just keep it under your hat until it's a bit closer then dazzle us, why not give us something in the meantime instead of "just look what you'll get in a years time".

/ Forgets about God Of War until December so not to fall for Sony bull again

Let's bloooooody well hope so!

I'm also not a fan of the early hype, as it really means nothing until the playable hits the shelves.

I remember the 32X hype, when Mean Machines Sega showed 'screenshots' of Daytona USA - and they said that the hardware was more powerful than the Model 2 Arcade board. What a load of BOLLOCKS that was. Then Sony did the same with the PS3.

This will make me impulse buy a PS3 - providing it lives up to its promise.

They should shut up and work on finishing the game, in the meantime - as I bet the damn thing doesn't run in 256/200Mb RAM yet.

This article hasn't told us nothing we didn't already know weeks ago.

I think he's right about the later years of the PS3 though.

Look at early PS2 software compared to later PS2 software such as GOW2 and Shadow of the Colossus, and there's a complete gulf in class.

But yeah, Santa Monica should zip it and just finish the thing...

Whats your job, Nick?

That picture seems to be more among the lines of 'Goddess of War'.

Edit: Or Queer of War, come to think of it.

It's not locked at 30fps. It will run at 60fps but will drop down to a minimum of 30fps when there's a lot of action on screen. I have no idea if it will be native 1080p though.

"God of Queer"

Welcome to the playground :)

The thing is, that launch titles for ANY platform are usually rushed shite.

So yes - Smuggler's Run on PS2 is way behind Burnout 3.

However - how much more advanced is God of War II from MGS2? Burnout 3 from Gran Turismo 3???

The 2nd gen of games is usually massively better than the 1st (technically) - like GTA IV in comparison to Saints Row, for example. I can only wait and see how developers can get around having 200Mb main memory, a slow optical drive and a limited GPU.

I'd like to think that some amazing results are possible - but you still have to overcome serious RAM, streaming and GPU limitations.

Cant wait for some HD boobage

Having played all GOW games I can't wait but please enough with the QTE.

STOP. STARTING. CONSOLE. WAR. COMMENT. THREADS.

and keep the QTE, its not GoW without it and QTE does not mean shitness by default.

"enough with the QTE"

No such luck. The devs already said they are not moving the series forward at all. Same combat, same QTE's.

There are batter ways to handle action sequences than QTE's. The way tombraider:Underworld works, for example.

Once again a 1st party PS3 dev completely ignores anything gameplay related and simply concentrates on how many polys and post-processing effects they can cram on the screen.

Laughable.

A bit like Gears of War then?

Oh another good game for the PS3 this year, I expect it will be shit in comparison to most 360 games though. They all are.

Goodfella

You took the bait...shame on you. Ignore him, most people do anyway.

Game looks mint and hopes it keeps the same style and gameply but just more accessible...loving the change weapons on the fly.

I also think rather than continue the rather excellent series, God Of War 3 should aspire to be as good as the 'ok' Tomb Raider Underworld.

lol, I didn't take the bait, I'm waiting to see what his laughable reply to it is?

Why is every PS3 exclusive interview 70% about the PS3 itself? Like, who the hell cares about that when they're supposed to be talking about a game and how cool it is?

Ugh...well, game's looking pretty good anyway.

Doh - they forgot to mention how BLU-RAY lets them fit twenty copies of the game on the disk, with room to spare for a hi-rez picture of Kaz Hirai's smiling face. That'll earn a bollocking from Sony HQ.

I don't see the problem with QTE's as long as they're used contexually. It's not like the whole game is based around it. In all fairness most games out there are based on someone interacting with a pad and pressing the right button at the right time. QTE's just vary the button to press and prompt you on the screen with it.

Simples.

J1GSAW

Couldnt agree more..here hoping for collectors edition with all 3 games bundled!! Drools :D

That would be sweet as I foolishly traded in the first game due to lack of funds at the time.Won't happen though.

People have a go at game mechanics but apply a generalisation to all games. Stealth sections is another one of them. Are we going to start saying that the next Splinter Cell is a no sale if it includes stealth because all stealth is bad, regardless of whether it does it well or not?

@Widge
I've seen stealth done well in several games. I've never seen QTE's add anything to a game. It always seems to be to do some really cool move they couldn't work out how to do any other way - the actual player doesn't even get to see said cool move because they are too busy being dragged out of the atmosphere of the game and concentrating on matching button presses the screen is telling them to do.

Not overly into QTE's, was gonna buy Legends of Wrestlemania until i played the demo and the whol game is basically press a button when it appears on the screen, absolute poo. I don't mind them a little in a game but too much just ruins the whole thing.

"Couldnt agree more..here hoping for collectors edition with all 3 games bundled!! Drools :D"

^This - but for every sequel!!!

Guitar hero and rock band are the ultimate QTE games and they seem to have done quite well. :P

I think you're the one who could use some therapy. LOL

I have family and know people with PS3's. Someone has to keep an eye an these things for them.

Besides, I haven't said anything negative about GOWIII. Looks good.

Re QTEs:

GamesProgrammer, Widge and andijames are spot on. If they're well implemented, and in contect to the action - then they're excellent.

I personally think that Res Evil 4/5 and God of War are the best 2 action games where QTE is concerned. As long as it's not overused, or a silly load of bashing that doesn't match the action, then it's fine.

I hope that they use a combination of button presses and SIXAXIS control for the QTEs in this game, but that the motion controls are much closer to the on-screen action to any Wii crap.

It'd be nice to bash a monster's head in by making bashing motions with the pad - where the animation actually follows some of your movements.

I'll wait and see what they manage.

Going off topic slightly - it'd also be decent if Fight Night Round 4 allowed play using 2 SIXAXIS pads - one held in each hand to punch with.

So whats better then? the x360 or Ps3?

This game looks awesome btw

@J1GSAW

With a bit of luck, they wont use too much of the following:

- obvious corridors to hide load times

- obvious small play areas / rooms to mask a struggling GPU

- obvious repetition to mask a lack of RAM

I'll wait and see...

Well, the PS3 seems to cope fine with open world games such as Oblivion so I don't see what the problem is.

"Kratos can now change weapons on the fly"

REAL TIME WEAPON CHANGE!

"Well, the PS3 seems to cope fine with open world games such as Oblivion so I don't see what the problem is."

You can't really compare Oblivion to GoWIII or games of that kind. In Oblivion there are 1 or 2 things going on at once, in GOWIII there are lots and lots. That's why you can't have games like GOWIII with the open world of a game like Oblivion.

So what are you saying?

I guess we're going back to Gears of War again because you can't do an open world version of that either.

Bit vague that ronuds, when you mean stuff going on what do you mean, God of War is a scripted title in the Devil May Cry mould, which is of course derived from the Resident Evil style of gameplay, not sure why they are being compared to one another.

I don't see why Ryze brought it up for this game, when FPS titles and many other modern games used corridors (interactive parts of the game being surrounded by non interactive events) arenas and scripting to a great extent. God of War 3 is a sequel that is trying to do more of what people already like about the series using a more powerful machine, rather than a rethink of the entire basis of the game that would be needed to make an open world fighting system. If that was the case, it would have an impact on the tight scripting, set pieces and showcase production values being used to sell the game.

Now a third person action game that could suit an open world would be a new God Hand from Platinum Games, massive crowds and a world you can run around and beat the crap out of, that would be fantastic. :D

I'm not saying anything - only that you can't compare the inner workings of a game like Obvlion to a game like GOWIII...or Gears II for that matter, if that's the direction you want to swing it. Well, I guess I am saying something then. :P

But nothing to do with the PS3. I'm not foolish enough to believe the PS3 or 360 can do anything the other can't.

"Bit vague that ronuds, when you mean stuff going on what do you mean, God of War is a scripted title in the Devil May Cry mould"

I don't claim to be a programming genius, but I know that a game like Oblivion and a game like GOWIII are very differently programmed behind the scenes. I could try and describe why for you, but I'm sure there are people much more qualified. I only know from a high-level perspective. Scripted has nothing to do with it - it's more about how much is going on at once and how much a console can handle.

I actually BLAME God Of War for poor QTE, that and Resi 4. Since those games, everyone seems to have it on their checklist to shoehorn in.

Call the ones who do it shite out, but don't disregard the entire mechanic. Someone once said that if you took the QTE out of Shenmue, you'd have half a game left.

Gears/Oblivion-Gears (and non-open world games, lets not just pin stuff on Gears, we can say Half Life 2 etc) is intended to be played a certain way through a certain route, you can use lots of smoke and mirrors to give the illusion of something massive going on. Oblivion, you can walk round the mirrors and through the smoke.... so you can't rely on them, as a result all the grunt that goes into the game is not on flash but on being able to cope without the gameplay being directed and approached in any fashion from any direction.

Right, but it would be difficult for a console to handle an entire open, streaming world, with the amount of things going on at once as in a game like Gears. GTA IV comes closest, but then you take the graphics hit. It's give and take.

All good points and ronuds yeah you are right, it's just that I was replying to Ryze and his hinting at the PS3 not being able to cope with anything more than confined game design, and as I said neither console would be able to cope with an open world game that had the demanding activity of games such as God of War or Gears of War.

Well, Ryze's comment was nothing more than fanboy fodder. While he makes a point in the tricks they use with games like GOWIII, they do the same thing across all consoles. I believe there's Conan for the 360, which is something along the lines of GOWIII, and it's all small rooms and battlefields and such.

That's just how it is. Maybe when there are PS5's and XBOX 1440's we'll be able to get rid of the smoke and mirrors, but it's not happening this gen.

I think this game is going to suck due to low ram and crappy gpu. Should've done it on Wii.

I really liked QTEs in GoW, I thought they really added to the gameplay (especially killing off those women with snake tails, whatever those were called, these were wicked!).

QTEs in RE4 were crap, half of my deaths counted at the end were from the single qte-based encounter with Krauser. Even after I got through it, I was too annoyed to try it again.

QTE suite God of War, I mean how many times have we seen games with a kick ass fight and thought 'wish that was playable'. Well its not the exact same but its nearer then just watching it. GOW has some brillaint boss fights, I mean some that would be impossible to play had they kept to the same combat of the game. So they came up with a way to make the player feel like they were kicking shit out of a fuck of monster.

Who can blame them for wanthing us to feel like we did?

if this game scores a 0 on metacritic I'd still buy it.

I have the PSP version of this game and I can't see what the fuss is about. Is it NOT a hack and slash game like any other? I think the game should move towards more RPG elements if it wants to succeed in todays day and age.