Geohot releases "hack" for PS3

By Richard Leadbetter Published 27 January, 2010

"Hopefully this will ignite the scene."

iPhone hacker George Hotz, aka Geohot, today released his PlayStation 3 "hack" - inviting other coders to pick up the baton and continue his research.

"Hopefully this will ignite the PS3 scene, and you will organise and figure out how to use this to do practical things, like the iPhone when jailbreaks were first released," Hotz wrote on his blog. "I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night."

The released hack contains details of the interface Hotz created and sample code for adding complete read/write access to the PS3 via OtherOS/Linux. It also explains how the hardware is used in opening up the system. In time-honoured hacking fashion, Hotz is glitching the memory bus to effectively turn a small hole in RAM into one that encompasses the entire system.

In terms of what the hack is, what it isn't, and what it potentially leads to, Hotz himself suggests taking a look at yesterday's Digital Foundry article about his work, which explains the relationship between his exploit and the overall security scheme that makes PlayStation 3 one of the most hacker-unfriendly games machine ever released.

Reaction to Geohot's work has been somewhat mixed. While it is acknowledged that the system itself is now more vulnerable to a more concentrated attack, many take issue with Hotz's claims that the PS3 has been "hacked", as the CELL processor's internal decryption algorithms remain impenetrable (for now) and we have yet to see actual "homebrew" code running within the GameOS area of the console.

"Hacking is breaking the security of the system, which I have done," Hotz responded. "I'm not spending my time writing custom firmware, ISO loaders, and an open SDK. Leave that to somebody else...

"I didn't give up, I'm just not spending all day on it anymore. I have other things to do. Just because I don't do something doesn't mean I can't do it. Unlike the iPhone, there isn't a clear definition of hacked (as in unlocked or jailbroken). This is code execution at the highest privilege level."

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  • Garwoofoo #1 2 years ago

    What a twat. Whatever anyone says, this is all about piracy.

  • micky1984 #2 2 years ago

    Sony might be a little HACKED off when the read this article ...................... ill get my coat

  • light&shadow #3 2 years ago

    I made a gun, but I'm not responible if someone kills with it.

    Twat.

  • TopKatt #4 2 years ago

    "Just because I don't do something doesn't mean I can't do it."

    Just because I haven't found a cure for cancer and brought about world peace doesn't mean I can't do it. I'm just too busy, let someone else do it!

    Hack fail.

  • aliki #5 2 years ago

    Sounds like he got stuck with his 'hack'.

    Attention seeking scum.

    /fail

  • Calundann #6 2 years ago

    @#1, #3, #4, #5
    When fanboys cry...

  • Murton #7 2 years ago

    Well if he indeed was in it only for the technical challenge and a little fame he got what he wanted, though judging by the start of this thread and the lengthy thread on the Eurogamer article I doubt it's going to be the sort of fame he likes.

    Opening up the platform may sound all well and noble but the truth is that this will eventually be used to develop a means of pirating games on the console. We can only hope that Sony isn't as shy with exercising its rights to protect itself and its property from this kid as he is to all the stuff he claims he can but doesn't have time for.

  • Byzanite #8 2 years ago

    Whats the big deal? It was going to happen one day; no system is impenetrable unless its constantly evolving ahead of the pace.
    And attention seeking? Hardly.. seeing as he has done what no one else has been able to do.
    :)

  • Nazo #9 2 years ago

    "I have a life to get back to"
    Lies!

  • clearblue #10 2 years ago

    whats..... the..... point.

  • M_of_the_sys #11 2 years ago

    "I have a life to get back to"
    24/7 WoW?

  • mcwildcard #12 2 years ago

    If you can make it, you can break it.
    Thing is, it might take so long to break that people are too busy buying their PS4 systems for Sony to care.

  • FogHeart #13 2 years ago

    "In terms of what the hack is, what it isn't, and what it potentially leads to, Hotz himself suggests taking a look at yesterday's Digital Foundry article about his work...."

    Wow. Kudos (and page hits!) to EG!

  • Golgo #14 2 years ago

    "Just because I don't do something doesn't mean I can't do it."

    May I offer a 'LOL'?

    How petulant is this silly boy?

    Odd that he refers to Digital Foundry article, which suggested hack claim was a load of croc for the most part.

    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 10:57

  • Spekingur #15 2 years ago

    You know, technically the X360 isn't hacked either if people's definition is based on 'hacking the core algorithms'.

  • BritishBlue1 #16 2 years ago

    @Calundann

    It's not about fanboys, you moron, it's about people getting paid for their bloody work. If I had a magic wand and could wipe out piracy on the Wii, 360 and PC I'd do it. I know it's ridiculous when companies try to rip us of, as with MW2's £55 asking price, but there are plenty of other ways to get cheaper games.

  • oreillymj #17 2 years ago

    Presumably the HV glitch that geohot has exploited will require a CELL silicon change. IIRC Since CELL just got a shrink to 45mn for the Slim, it'll be a while before we see a 32nm revision as these shrinks are getting more difficult/expensive. So all systems built up until then will be potentially vulnerable.

    I'd like to see some analysis on how feasible this hack is to actually exploit any further. It might just end up being a curiosity that wastes the cycles of other potential hackers, but doesn't actually generate anything useful.

    Also how easy/difficult will it be for Sony to eliminate with a FW update. Seems like it might be unfixable in FW.

  • Calundann #18 2 years ago

    @BritishBlue1
    Its still funny though, people will despair over anything these days.
    And speaking of hacks. According to certain courts it will add "Value" to the consoles...
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 11:18

  • dloob #19 2 years ago

    Well got to admire the ability to find holes in a hypervisor like that.
    Look like a bit of an oversight to allow the hypervisior to ignore memory it thinks is deallocated, perhaps it was done for performance reasons.

  • bit-crusheRRRR #20 2 years ago

    This barely matters as now all the new ps3s are slims and they cant be hacked in this manner as they don't have the 'install other OS' option.

  • ignatiusjreilly #21 2 years ago

    XBMC was awesome.

    If something like that appears on the PS3, I'd definitely consider buying one.

  • Diomedes #22 2 years ago

    For what I can see he didnt seem to know where to go next.This "hack" would only work in PS3 Phat consoles with AnotherOS installed and would only allow Linux or the other OS to access the RSX and Cell.It still isnt able to bypass the security of the console to play ISOS etc and wouldnt work anyway in any PS3 Slim so ...the PS3 is still secure.But ,if from here someone managed to get homebrew to run and still without piracy it would be interesting.

  • Pulsar_t #23 2 years ago

    Awww the butt-hurt fandom.

  • Murton #24 2 years ago

    oreillymy: depends where the hack goes. If it stays within the linux environment then Sony aren't likely to be too bothered by it, the Slim and any potential future incarnations of the PS3 no longer feature the linux chip, but if someone breaks into the GamesOS and starts using custom firmware we're certainly going to see an attempt to lock it down, that's pretty much a certainty.

    One possible lockdown method would be to change the firmware check on PSN sign-in, currently when you sign in you'll be told if there is an update and prompted to download it, a quick change to make that happen before you're given access to the PSN will lock down the Store, HOME, trophies, friendslists and online play to anyone who isn't using an approved and current firmware version, same effect as the LIVE bans work on 360. It may well be that whatever security exploits are used cannot be stopped by a simple firmware update but a few small changes to the PSN and how it works and the problem becomes contained at the very least.

    Besides, someone still needs to break the proprietary file format of a PS3 game disc and break into the blu-ray drive to get a copied disc to run or create a launcher to allow a game to be launched from HDD, and that's assuming that there's no fancy security on the discs themselves. We're so far away from any viable method of piracy on the PS3 that it's not really worth talking about at the moment.

  • Calundann #25 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly
    I can agree with that, XBMC extended the life of my old xbox with many years. Until around when MKV became more common.

  • xentar #26 2 years ago

    Sony has still some defenses up and we are looking at piracy free PS3 for some time to come. just remember how PC CD pirac ystarted... it was slow because of the costs of cd burners and CD media.... and BRD data is 30+ GB which means seriously long downloads... not to mention the initial modifications to the systems needed to play any homebrew or pirated software

  • betahoven #27 2 years ago

    Post deleted at 09:36:16 17-12-2011

  • jjolley #28 2 years ago

    Don't you just like this folks:
    ""I didn't give up, I'm just not spending all day on it anymore. I have other things to do. Just because I don't do something doesn't mean I can't do it"
    Talk about arrogance of the highest order. The guy has some serious issues i'm sure. Clever, yes, nutty, certainly.

  • JohnnyWashnGo #29 2 years ago

    What is it with hackers and FPGAs?

    Having no background in hardware, I have no idea how they work or what they can be used for. I do know, however, that dark alex was using on to hack the PSP years ago.

    What is so special about them?

  • ignatiusjreilly #30 2 years ago

    I wonder how many people with jailbroken iPods and and iPhones are calling him a twat.

    The guy is a legend and has added value and enjoyment to the toys of thousands of people.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 12:02

  • Petulant_Radish #31 2 years ago

    I wonder how many people with jailbroken iPods and and iPhones steal applications from developers and music from artists.

  • Monkey_Puncher #32 2 years ago

    Hopefully me pouring petrol over this little twunt and lighting a match will also ignite the scene..

  • ignatiusjreilly #33 2 years ago

    Wow, I am amazed that anyone (except Steve Jobs) would disapprove of jailbreaking.

  • chrisola #34 2 years ago

    "I have a life to get back to.."

    I'm sure his porn sites and WOW account have missed him!


  • Halo.Jones #35 2 years ago


    Below is iQD's statement regarding the recent GeoHot PS3 Hack news, partly it really seems as if he does not read any docs :p

    The most he claims to be surprising is mentioned in the IBM docs hehe^^

    To quote: "So the PS3 is hacked ? Well that's nothing more than an urban legend.

    Altough it's nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.

    Let's have a look. The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the "Secure Processing Vault" and is the most important thing regarding "hacking" the PS3.

    There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.

    Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.

    To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU. For this you will need the root key.

    The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.

    The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !

    Let's just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.

    The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key ! You won't get anywhere without the root key.

    Let's assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW.

    There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.

    So there's always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to.

    And which part is responsible for this ? Exactly, the isolated SPU. So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.

    The PS3 is neither an PSP nor an iPhone. It's the most secure system architecture of this time !

    The girl behind this stuff, Kanna Shimizu, is not somebody. Messing around with this is not like saying Bruce Schneier is a n00b.

    Btw.: forget about all those stories, that certain hackers are or will be employed by SONY. That's nothing more than another urban legend.

    @geohot It is OBVIOUS that the HV is PPC. The Cell BE is a PPC architecture, you know ;-) Better read those IBM papers in first place !

    - iQD"


    Read more: [link url=http://www.ps3news.c om/PS3-Hacks/iqd-ps3-is-hacked-the-urban-legend-continues/#i xzz0doaNsMQ6
    ]http://ww w.ps3news.com/PS3-Hacks/iqd-ps3...[/link]

  • zuljin #36 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly
    "I wonder how many people with jailbroken iPods and and iPhones are calling him a twat."

    When a console is tied to a ridiculous monthly contract which I can't relocate with, then I admit, I'd be happy.

    As for now, give me a legitemate reason the PS3 should be hacked? Sod it, give me any reason other than "to play hacked games cuz I'm a cheapskate"?

  • jefranklin18 #37 2 years ago

    @Calundann: the certain courts you are referring to are possibily the Australian courts that approved the use of a PS2 mod chip as it allowed the user to play backed up games and makes it region free?

    IIRC, the court ruling was very specific in that it said that the forcing of region-locking on to consumers limited their choice and thereby was anti-competitive. That is proabably why the PS3 can play games from any region, so such a ruling cannot be made again.

  • xentar #38 2 years ago

    i can not understand people who are badnouthing this guy for not wanting/having time to go further with his exploits... The guy is a great hacker in the very best meaning of the world and he already did prove his ability and achieved something thought impossible. How can anyone have the guts to call out on the account that he will not do more? If you really want powerfull Linux box or need to play pirated games buy a PC or Xbox

  • ignatiusjreilly #39 2 years ago

    When a console is tied to a ridiculous monthly contract which I can't relocate with, then I admit, I'd be happy.

    As for now, give me a legitemate reason the PS3 should be hacked? Sod it, give me any reason other than "to play hacked games cuz I'm a cheapskate"?

    Jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking. Jailbreaking gives root access to the device and allows it to run unapproved software. unlocking just lets it run on another network.

    I mentioned a legitimate reason for the Xbox 1 to be hacked - XBMC. Better media software than anything Microsoft has released before or since, built by amateurs form the ground up for the Xbox. It's now a free and open-source platform for OSX, Linux and Windows.

    Ask someone with a hacked DS, PSP or iPhone and they can tell you there are loads of uses other than piracy once you can run homebrew software.

  • Zero_ #40 2 years ago

    There's no real reason to hack the PS3 unless you are actively seeking piracy, I'm sorry but that's the reality of it.

    Actually, no wait - I'd love the PS3 to be a PROPER media center like Boxxee/XBMC, then I can ditch everything and just have the PS3.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 13:36

  • youhavenomail #41 2 years ago

    I hope someone hacks George Hotz's face off.

    Violence for the win!

  • AliRay #42 2 years ago

    Does anyone think Sony spent more time making the PS3 'hack-proof' than making it easy for devs to code for/ a nice machine for the consumer?

    I'm wondering how much time/money went into this that could have gone on making the pad a bit nicer/different from PS2, for example (this is just a personal dislike of mine)....

  • drumbaby #43 2 years ago

    Sounds like he pussied out...cyber wimp.

  • ignatiusjreilly #44 2 years ago

    I'm sure his porn sites and WOW account have missed him!

    He is 19, and has won awards and prizes at the Intel International Science & Engineering Fair, including as a finalist with robotics projects when he was 16. He's done TV interbiews with CNN and NBC, has interviews with the BBC and Forbes and was listed in PC World magazine as one of the top overachievers under 21. He has travelled to Sweden for youth science seminars to talk about a 3-D imaging invention that earned him a $20,000 prize from Intel. He also has his own Wikipedia page, which you could probably guess from my post ;)

    Now please tell me what you have achieved before the age of 20 that gives you the balls to sit there posting on Eurogamer about what a loser this guy is.

  • zuljin #45 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly
    "Jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking. Jailbreaking gives root access to the device and allows it to run unapproved software. unlocking just lets it run on another network."

    In the case of the iPhone she had to load other firmware on it so she could use it in the UK.

    "Ask someone with a hacked DS, PSP or iPhone and they can tell you there are loads of uses other than piracy once you can run homebrew software."

    My girlfriend has a hacked iPhone, so she didn't have to buy another iPhone when she came over from the states. I have one friend with a hacked DS, who downloads games. I have plenty who have hacked PSPs, again, all so they can download games.

    I seriously doubt the number of people running their own code (most likely to display a coloured triangle on screen) is going to even approach the number who will simply download the crack, and start torrenting games.

  • ignatiusjreilly #46 2 years ago

    Well I would assume you don't call your girlfriend a twat for running an unlocked iPhone? But the person that allowed her to do that is some kind of scumbag?

    If this hack led to people being able to run their old PS1 and/or PS2 games on a PS3 would they feel differently? I dunno, I'm surprised already at the amount of hatred for this guy expressed here - he's a legend among the tech blogs and electronics geeks.
    Edited by 2 at 27/01/10 @ 14:04

  • zuljin #47 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly
    "Well I would assume you don't call your girlfriend a twat for running an unlocked iPhone?"

    No, because as I mentioned in a previous comment, I thought it silly for her supplier in the US to not allow her to use the phone in the UK, even though her original contract has long since expired. I realise its probably to stop people from trafficking the phones, buying them cheaply one place and transferring them, but people don't move countries generally for shits and giggles.

    THAT, to me is a legit reason. Something you have stops working for its primary purpose through no fault of your own. Again, running your own homebrew stuff? FFS use XNA, or Kongregate, etc...

  • ignatiusjreilly #48 2 years ago

    So you approve of the hack that helped your girlfriend, even though Apple explicitly disallowed it to protect their revenue, but you disapprove of the one that you or your girlfriend don't have any use for.

    OK then.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 14:21

  • bad09 #49 2 years ago

    As soon as you can play PS2 again I'm all over a PS3 hack!

    You people claiming hacks are only used for piracy can I ask, What about chipping your console to play import games? or PSP, saving your own UMDs to MS? Is that piracy?

    Hacking itself is not piracy, the people doing it are not condoning piracy. It is merely opening the possibilities of a machine. Yes it enables piracy by the very nature of what it does but that is NOT causing piracy. In fact I'm sure I read a while ago that on future custom CF updates on PSP slim the new team of hackers involved are actually removing the ability to play any ISO games so it will play just the ISOs you create yourself with a UMD.

    Pirates create the piracy "problem" (I'm still not convinced that's really the big problem some like to think it is in terms of actual lost sales - pirates don't spend money on games you see, it's....kinda the point of piracy) NOT the hackers, who merely open a platform for all of us to benefit.

  • zuljin #50 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly
    "So you approve of the hack that helped your girlfriend, even though Apple explicitly disallowed it to protect their revenue, but you disapprove of the one that you or your girlfriend don't have any use for."

    Nice simplification and trying to put word in my mouth. But no. I don't approve of any hacks that will result in a console/phone manufacturer to lose money. This includes the iPhone. You may disagree with practices of companies, but at the end of the day, you have a choice. Buy the product or not. You don't like 5 activations on your game? Vote with your money.

    The hack is out there for the iPhone. I don't support it. But if I've paid money for an item and I can't use it anymore even though I haven't broken my contract, I'd probably hassle Apple about it, until I got a respectable solution. And when we went to the Apple store, they recommended it (albeit nudge nudge wink wink - you can't! But IF you had the homebrew then that would fix it).

    And yes if my girlfriend was using it to get free apps, as a developer myself, I would call her a twat.

  • mkreku #51 2 years ago

    I sometimes download "cracks" so I don't have to juggle my game discs.. does that make me a pirate?

  • ignatiusjreilly #52 2 years ago

    @zuljin

    OK it's fine, I'm not trying to convert anyone and I realise the public perception of hacking is never going to be one of public service.

    I think it's just a different perspective between people. I think that if I've paid for something then it's mine to do as I like with - to hack it, to stick hardware in it or take hardware out, or to make it do things its manufacturer never even considered. Yes it may open up possibilities of illegal activities, but there were a hundred illegal things I could easily do when I walked out of my front door this morning anyway and the world hasn't stopped revolving.

    If I can't do that, then I want it to be as open and as unrestricted as possible. But I realise not everyone needs or wants that. That's why I game on a PC when 80% of people would choose a console, and why I bought a Nexus One when 80% of people would have chosen an iPhone.

    You may disagree with practices of companies, but at the end of the day, you have a choice. Buy the product or not. You don't like 5 activations on your game? Vote with your money.

    I don't think like that either. If I don't like the fact that a game only gives me five activations, then I modify the game so the restrictions don't work and I get as many 'activations' as I like. This is the age of the internet where information flows freely, and if I don't like the rules that a company tries to impose on me then I will change them myself. Just like your girlfriend did with her iPhone :)

    (I feel weird that I've been talking about your girlfriend for my last three posts. Sorry about that.)



    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 15:26

  • malexous #53 2 years ago

    A lot of stereotyping on EG.

    Hacking leads to a lot more things than piracy.

    I'm currently typing this on a jailbroken iPod Touch. Backgrounding and customisation are my two favourite things about it.

    I also have a hacked Wii and now don't need to buy extra hardware to play video files on my TV.

    I'm sure this could eventually lead to another hack that works on Slims and make it possible to install Linux on them.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/10 @ 15:56

  • Verminox #54 2 years ago

    Hacks were a good thing for PS1/2 why not 3?

  • Shikasama #55 2 years ago

    So much self righteousness, so few posts

  • jonfon #56 2 years ago

    @zuljin : "As for now, give me a legitemate reason the PS3 should be hacked? Sod it, give me any reason other than "to play hacked games cuz I'm a cheapskate"?"

    Dunno about the PS3 but I'd love my PSP to be hacked simply to give me a better Music Player, Video Player and Web Browser. The Sony ones suck to high heavens. I'm not bothered with pirating games at all, I'm happily able to afford anything I might fancy, but I'd love my PSP to become more than just something with a few good games I occasionally dust off to play.

  • Pulsar_t #57 2 years ago

    I was hoping for more posters taking the piss off butt-hurt, self-righteous fanboys

  • ignatiusjreilly #58 2 years ago

    I don't even get the 'fanboy' remarks. Who is getting pissed off - Xbox fanboys or PS3 fanboys? Why am I trying to find logic in this argument?

  • JahB #59 2 years ago

    I was hoping for more posters taking the piss off butt-hurt, self-righteous fanboys

    i was hoping for less idiots that have no idea what kind of damage hacks like these can do.

    yes, technically this may open up the system for lots of legitimate, home made applications. but in reality, it only leads to piracy. which is great if you're a thief, but sucks if you happen to work in the game industry.

  • Malacath #60 2 years ago

    People like Geohot are scum.

    Hackers have ruined online play on the PSP. You can't play a multiplayer game on the PSP anymore without some scum with a modded PSP cheating.

    Xbox 360 suffers similar problems due to hackers. Luckely MS ban them once they are detected. I just wish they would ban the accounts of people who use mods as well as their consoles.

    Now soon the ps3 will go the same way.

    It doesn't matter what anyone says. Hacking the consoles is purely used to pirate games and cheat online.

  • schachmatt #61 2 years ago

    If anyone's scum it is uninformed people, who rather run blindfolded against walls than realising the world's not just black and white. And I don't think they're scum, they're just pitiful.
    They "choose" to be exploited by companies - and even defend their own exploitation - instead of being thankful of the possibilitites someone gives them in his spare time.

  • spudsbuckley #62 2 years ago

    This 'hack' won't lead to playable ISO or copied discs on the PS3. It's got more to do with the usual homebrew twattery that lets your console do a fraction of what even the most bog standard PC can already do.

  • RESIDENT_nEVILe #63 2 years ago

    I pledge to continue Geohot's masterwork and hack the Gibson.

    /tears cover from PS3

    /connects Major Morgan

    /bangs head repeatedly against desk

    Actually, I don't have time for this. Not to say I can't do it!

  • Erebu #64 2 years ago

    @ schachmatt

    You do realize that you don't have to buy the product? Nobody is exploiting you. You have the choice. Stop pretending hackers are some kind of freedomfighters.

  • schachmatt #65 2 years ago

    I do know that and I didn't buy one. Got it as a present that I didn't choose, though.
    I chose the open environment of a pc.
    However, if I can do something worthwile with my PS3 I'm all for it. And if it makes it a less closed system for others that's good, too.

    You know, you can choose not to change anything with your PS3, do you?

  • sonmi451 #66 2 years ago

    hey, someone's called themselves Ignatius Reilly!

    we's a cultured bunch on EG.

    or just dunces... ;)

  • JamieR #67 2 years ago

    He obviously did it for the glory job done onto the next thing to brag about breaking and the next industry to damage.

  • Slipstream #68 2 years ago

    People should refer to the DF article to see how fruitless his effort is? Hmm, perhaps he didn't read it.

  • DaDon123456 #69 2 years ago

    'You may disagree with practices of companies, but at the end of the day, you have a choice. Buy the product or not. You don't like 5 activations on your game? Vote with your money. '

    Sorry I just had to chip in when I read that. You make that statement, yet at the same time you say your girlfriend hacked her iphone so she could use it i a different country. Double Standards? Like someone else said, you are only against it when you or your girlfriend have no use for it? OK then.