Gears 2 teaser on UT 360 disc?

By Robert Purchese Published 21 April, 2008

Mark Rein suggests so.

Mark Rein has told Eurogamer the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament 3 could feature a special treat for Gears of Wars fans.

"You might want to keep a close eye on the Unreal Tournament 3 disc. There might be something Gears of War 2 related on that," said Rein.

What, though? A new trailer perhaps? "Might not be! Might be. Whatever!"

However, one thing Rein does know is that Gears of War 2 will be a "much better" game than the original. Better than an eight, apparently:

"I think Gears 1 was better than an eight!" he stated. "You get what you get on reviews. If the best games get an eight, I'm OK with an eight. I dig that - horses for courses."

"I think Gears 2 is a much better game than the original, but we'll have to wait and see what the fans and reviewers think," Rein continued.

"I don't want to give away too much information. It's a just better game... We've improved it in many, many ways that'll be apparent before too long."

Unreal Tournament 3 is due out on Xbox 360 this summer and will feature five fresh maps, two new characters and split-screen play from the off.

Gears of War 2 is due out on Xbox 360 in November.

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About Robert Purchese

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Comments (35) Latest comment 4 years ago

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  • Lexx87 #1 4 years ago

    Meh at UT but hooray for Gears!

  • Darren #2 4 years ago

    Gears of War was a 7 in my book! Good to play and graphically stunning but definitely overrated IMO. Then again I hated the oh-so-dull online mode so maybe that's why I don't view it as a classic. UT3 is far better in that respect, fast, chaotic and always fun.

    Would have been nicer had Epic included the Locust and Marcus Phenix models into UT3 as I doubt a trailer is going to make people rush out and buy it. UT3 didn't do so well on the PC and PS3 so it'll be interesting to see if it does better on the Xbox 360. Logically it shoudl as shooters + online mode seem to go down very well on the system.
    Edited by Darren at 21/04/08 @ 09:20

  • 3william56 #3 4 years ago

    I hear it's a new alpine themed Gears map, called Brokeback Mountain.
    Lots of big weapons, narrow passages, penetrating raids and choke points.

  • bad09 #4 4 years ago

    @Darren

    How could you not love the online aspect of gears, it was great fun. Personally I loved it more than the single player!

  • NthSimulachum #5 4 years ago

    @3William

    Not to mention surprise assaults to the rear.

  • anomagnus #6 4 years ago

    @darren

    funny, i actually really enjoyed the single player mode, of all the games i have ever bought, only gears and halo 3 have never been traded in

    re-playing gears right now. If it were a film, it would be no oscar winner (apart form special effects) but its damn playable

    on the other hand, i really disliked the online mode.

    each to their own i guess

  • the_dudefather #7 4 years ago

    hurr hurr gears of war is really gay amirite guys?

  • Darren #8 4 years ago

    I thought Gears of War's single player campaign was way too short and didn't like the online mode at all so that's why it's a 7 in my book. Just when the game was starting to get really good, it seemed to finish; I definitely felt the game was rushed toward the end and there's always a sense with these games that the online modes take priority over the single player which I definitely do not like. That the producers are promising a longer game for the sequel is good news in my book as I probably won't bother with its online mode at all... I'm not really an online gamer to be honest except for the odd rare game that I've enjoyed from my PC days like the Unreal Tournament series. Much prefer my games to be offline really... and long!

  • GamesConnoisseur #9 4 years ago

    I still treat Gears as a good game and certainly worthy of more than a 7, still the litmus test is that I havent touched it in months as 1) SP is short 2) online whilst great laff, is more of the same once you have played through the few modes.

    I still fondly recall how I used the chainsaw on all four opposing team members by ambushing each one on successive turn, as one of my best performance online, and Gears provided those kind of high moments.

    Looking forward to what Gears 2 will bring, initially I thought oh repackage of the first one but from the previews and devs comments, certainly looking like they are taking the franchise forward.

  • Dizzy #10 4 years ago

    Indeed... Gears online was awesome. It really introduced a very different type of online game IMHO. Slower, Squad based and more of a wait and rush gameplay. I think it is the only online game were teammates actually provide cover fire ;)
    Edited by Dizzy at 21/04/08 @ 09:52

  • symmetry #11 4 years ago

    GoW online Beta maybe?

    I'd buy that for several dollars.

  • stodgypudding #12 4 years ago

    Should boost sales a bit which I suppose is the desired effect.

  • Xerx3s #13 4 years ago

    "Get the GoW2 beta and receive a free copy of UT3!"

  • CreepinJesus #14 4 years ago

    "Good to play and graphically stunning but definitely overrated IMO"

    So true. The co-op was fantastic to play, but the online versus modes were complete bull.

  • Xerx3s #15 4 years ago

    In your oppinion. They where clearly an afterthought but that didn't stop me and me mate from having tons of fun online. The teaming up felt far more usefull.

  • penhalion #16 4 years ago

    @Darren

    It seemed to me (though perhaps I have my release dates mixed up) that Gears ripped off neraly every gameplay mechanic from that Rogue Trooper game by rebellion. Gears then seems to have been credited with the whole third person cover, blindfire, grenade aiming thing. In my book Gears was a good game but, didn't actually introduce anything new, rather copied wholesale from another game. 7 or 8 out of 10 was the max it deserved.

    Still as i say maybe I have my release dates mixed up or something.

  • miiiguel #17 4 years ago

    I'll have to try this Gears game someday. I have a copy that came bundled with my Elite, but never had the time to play it. SP is also my preference, although I'm kinda considering if looooong games are still my thing or not, I mean +100 at Lost Odyssey is starting to be a bit too much.

  • BadBoyBonner #18 4 years ago

    Penhalion

    Rogue Trooper

    A third-person action-adventure game (again incorporating first-person vehicle and weapons levels) made by Rebellion Developments and published by Eidos was released on 23rd of May 2006 for PC, PS2 and Xbox.


    Gears of War

    It was initially released an as exclusive title for the Xbox 360 on November 12, 2006 in North America, and on November 17, 2006 in Europe outside of Germany, where Microsoft Game Studios did not publish the game after it was denied a rating.

    Rogue came out about Nearly 6 months before Gears - so you're right.

    EDIT - [link url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIpW5cWC7vU
    ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIpW5cWC7vU
    [/link]

    You tube link showing just how alike they are (considering game was on last gen).

    Hopefully Epic will have had enough time to copy more of Rogue Troopers gameplay elements for the release of GOWII ;-)
    Edited by BadBoyBonner at 21/04/08 @ 11:37

  • Dizzy #19 4 years ago

    "Rogue came out about Nearly 6 months before Gears - so you're right. "

    Yea Gears was made in 6 months.

    God some of you guys can be emo whiners.

  • Grayvern #20 4 years ago

    Gears single player campaign was far better than Halo 3's which had about two-three hours of fun, then reprised all that I hated from halo 2 and then had the most god aweful flood level ever, considering it started out as primarily single player and a lot of people read the books it would have been nice if bungie had at least tried with the single player.

    Allthough if youre evaluating single player campaigns Gears is playable but contains some levels with annoying enough mechanics or enemies that really past the second play IMO make it not worth playing anymore.

    + Gears was never meant to be anything new, Rein admitted as much at press conferances the reason its 3rd person over the shoulder is Rezi 4 and i think he may have mentioned killswitch which was actually the first game to use cover blindfire etc, (even if it was a more than a bit rubbish which i think was pre 2004)
    Edited by Grayvern at 21/04/08 @ 11:55

  • Xerx3s #21 4 years ago

    Yeah, even the gh3ys of war would frown on you!

    @ dizzy
    Edited by Xerx3s at 21/04/08 @ 11:51

  • BadBoyBonner #22 4 years ago

    @Dizzy

    "Yea Gears was made in 6 months.

    God some of you guys can be emo whiners."

    Yea in 6 months it wouldn't be possible in any way shape or form for the makers of the UE3 to incorporate any new features they like from a new game. But wait, was there no footage of Rogue Trooper prior to it's release? Was it like a complete surprise? And came from out of nowhere?.......... Oh wait, people in the industry had seen it over a year before it's release, giving over 18 months to copy any features.

    How is reporting the incorporation or aping of good features from a previous game into a different one emo? Is this a word your trying to get to grips with?

    If knowledgeably comparing the common features from a previous game (that some may even be unaware of) is "emo whiners" why the f**k do you even bother reading (and more importantly commenting) on any journalistic gaming websites?

    As surely by your definition - you think all journalists working in the industry are "emo whiners" who mention common features (which is nearly all, as anyone would expect ) - hell almost everyone who makes games must be "emo whinners" when they compare their games to someone else's or pitch idea's.

  • Grayvern #23 4 years ago

    Games are full of blatant copying anyways so its not really a big deal I mean gears did cover firing way better than any game before it, and yes it was story lite but that seemed more like it was brought down by the fact that the gears designers have only ever made the meat slab character type.

    The environments were amazing and told a story then you saw the characters, but hey it was fun.

  • 3william56 #24 4 years ago

    They will be wearing purple helmets.

  • Grayvern #25 4 years ago

    Yes and carrying red truncheons, arent we the masters of wit.

  • BadBoyBonner #26 4 years ago

    LOL @ 3William56 & Grayvern.

    Was hoping more for the tactical use of deployable sentry-guns etc
    Edited by BadBoyBonner at 21/04/08 @ 12:28

  • Grayvern #27 4 years ago

    I think Gears 2 would be 5% better from the off if there were fresh cookies provided with every copy.

  • Dizzy #28 4 years ago

    "Oh wait, people in the industry had seen it over a year before it's release, giving over 18 months to copy any features. "

    Dude.. go make a game and then come back with your nonsense.

    BTW the emo whiners are guys like you... not the EG article.

    BTW2 FYI games are evolutionary. Usually the big design decisions are made the first few weeks/months and then tweaked during development to match the vision/gameplay. And yes, other games are used to show what they want to achieve and what features they like and don't like. Gears had all these features from day one. They decided to have this kind of gameplay and build a game around it. Revolutionary? Nope since many other games had done the cover system before. But in Gears it had a rather unique "flow" and the total package turned out to be pretty good and polished. It worked.

    A "revolutionary" game only comes along every 3-5 year, so stop using this f*cking stupid "nothing original" argument every 5 seconds.
    Edited by Dizzy at 21/04/08 @ 13:32

  • Dizzy #29 4 years ago

    QFT DiamondIce

    :)

  • BadBoyBonner #30 4 years ago

    Dizzy

    Hi surfer dude - Gears of War 2 will have been developed from start to finish in 24 months - I feel sure 18 months is enough time to incorporate a feature - any argument to the contrary seems to be in denial of rational thought.

    I don't need to be lead producer on a triple AAA title to understand how games are made, just like I do not need to be the manager of a Premiership team to understand football, or be a World Champion Boxer at 2 different weights to comment on the type of training Calzaghe required.

    While the odd individual in the games industry maybe a genius (Carmack springs to mind) most are not, it is simply a job, that most people with a triple figure IQ could easily manage intellectually; in reality the ability to cope with stress is probably a higher priced commodity than intellect in a lot of the game developing departments thanks to budgetary, and thus time, constraints. Therefore most educated gamers are able to form rational balanced knowledgeable opinions.

    "Nothing original every 5 seconds"? Can't find where I state that, or imply it, or for that matter state anything every 5 seconds.

    What you stated previously was logically flawed i.e. comparison=emo whiner - you have agreed to that in your follow up comment - failing to distance yourself by using the word "flow" as a descriptive word in reference to GOW and a supposedly distinguishing feature. While I thought the game was great (bit taken in by the technical marvel at the time) it was clearly the sum of a reiterative process. Plus you probably feel silly about claiming Gears of War was made in 6 months - where you have drawn an almost schoolboy conclusion of that being the time any feature seen in the RT would have been apparent to the Epic team and gaming masses.

    At no point has anyone in this comments section stated that the only reason GOW existed is due to Rogue Trooper - 3rd person shooters did not arrive with RT or GOW - arguably something like Berzerk which came out in1980 by Stern Electronics (itself inspired by the BASIC games Robots/Daleks) was right at the birth of the 3rd person shooter, albeit on a 2d plane.

    Perhaps you have misinterpreted, or come to the wrong conclusion, that I think good idea's being taken from one game to another as a bad thing? I whole heartedly recommend it, if it works well, keep it - expand it if possible, if it doesn't - loose it or modify until it does work, if possible.

    I recommend you relax more, learn to empathize with fellow co-workers, look up the word pluralism and try to appreciate subtle ironic comment (let me apologies for the irony now if your are neither British and/or English is not your first language - I know it can be difficult to follow at times).

    IMO

    Gone with the Wind was vastly overrated (IMO - Amazing the stories you can come up with when bed ridden - and note, the story was shelved for ten years before an exec got wind of it - to persuade Margret to make it into a film as she was unsure of it's quality.)

    Thriller was not that great an album (IMO - undisputed King of pop - but less said about him the better)

    And sliced bread is not as good as it is made out to be (especially when set against a warm uncut loaf with butter)

    You see how I did that? Here's the trick - to win an argument justly, you attack their submission's with contrary submissions BUT you do not attack the person (more so when you do not know anything about them - as we all know the saying about the word assume).

    Edited by BadBoyBonner at 21/04/08 @ 14:44

  • Dizzy #31 4 years ago

    "Plus you probably feel silly about claiming Gears of War was made in 6 months"

    Errr????

    Sometimes I hate discussions on the Internet. Did I really have to add a /sarcasm tag behind that one?

    Anyway..case closed for me.

    "Here's the trick - to win an argument justly, you attack their submission's with contrary submissions BUT you do not attack the person "

    Oh man.. classic. I had to ROFL on that one. Next time we are talking in the debate forum I will let you know. Last time I checked thought, it was games.
    Edited by Dizzy at 21/04/08 @ 14:50

  • BadBoyBonner #32 4 years ago

    @Dizzy

    "Next time we are talking in the debate forum I will let you know. Last time I checked thought, it was games."

    Erm doesn't the comments section exist so you can debate games and interact with each other?

    Or are you stating that nobody should interact and debate with each other in the comments section?

    Or are you stating that the comments section exists only to personally attack people?

    If you hate debating on the internet, why bother witting anything?

    The points you raise seem very strange.

  • Dizzy #33 4 years ago

    >The points you raise seem very strange.

    I am stating that you are replying just for the sake of it.

    Like I said. Over and out.

    /leaves

  • espibara #34 4 years ago

    I just hope that they give us friggin torches on the guns this time, what with the Kryll and all those dark corridors where were teh friggin torches man?

  • The-Bodybuilder #35 4 years ago

    This is one of the most bizzare comments section I've read.