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Gears 2 can beat Resistance 2 - Kim News

Xbox 360 News by Tom Bramwell

14 May, 2008

Microsoft's Shane Kim believes that Gears of War 2 will be the biggest game of the year and points to the first game's performance against Resistance: Fall of Man on PS3 as evidence of this.

"They launched with Resistance and we've sold nearly 5 million units of Gears of War 1. I think we won that battle," Kim told Eurogamer in an interview to be published soon.

"That's why I believe it's going to be the biggest title this holiday. Killzone's out of the holiday, despite some of the earlier statements that were made. We'll see what happens with Resistance 2, but we've gone head-to-head before. I still feel very confident in the quality [of Gears of War 2]," he explained.

Sony was not immediately available to confirm Resistance: Fall of Man's current sales figures, but it's worth bearing in mind that the PS3 first-person shooter was a launch title, whereas Gears of War was released on a system with an already-large installed base.

Kim, corporate vice president at Microsoft Game Studios, was speaking at Xbox 360's Spring Showcase event in San Francisco where Gears of War 2 was on display and lead designer Cliff Bleszinski demonstrated the second level of the game, called Assault, to journalists.

However, when we asked Kim where Gears of War 2 would sit on the scale of badass firmly established by Cliff Bleszinski and brand manager Kudo Tsunoda in Eurogamer's interview earlier today, he refused to be drawn, except to say, "We want a more badass sequel, right, whether that's 12 or 11 or ten. We just want it to be more..."

Check out the full Shane Kim interview later this week more on this and other Microsoft-related topics.

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JayeM
14/05/08 @ 15:03
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Well, obviously.
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14/05/08 @ 15:04
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Widge
14/05/08 @ 15:05
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I want to purchase a scale of badass
penhalion
14/05/08 @ 15:06
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"Gears of War was released on a system with an already-large installed base."

Er was it! When the heck did that bit of mis-information become fact?
Widge
14/05/08 @ 15:06
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anything written on the internet is fact
MightyMouse
14/05/08 @ 15:09
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That may be the least surprising thing ever said, anywhere, by anyone.
bitesize
14/05/08 @ 15:13
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anything written on the internet is fact

not unless you write fact after it in caps - FACT!

Erinan
14/05/08 @ 15:13
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Honestly, EG, no news is better than pissing contests. We need more women in the video game industry for god's sake.
Eraysor
14/05/08 @ 15:15
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.
Widge
14/05/08 @ 15:17
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bitesize is correct - FACT!
mrmrc84
14/05/08 @ 15:19
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@NickD7
Dude my grandma could beat up your dad.

I fully expect Gears 2 to outsell Resistance 2, but I don't really care about that.
It's like being surprised that more copies of GTAIV were sold for the 360 than the PS3, it's pretty much a given.

I love how enthused everyone is with how they're console will be the best, have the best game and make them the coolest on the playground. I'm more hopeful they'll both raise the standard of shooters for the better. I'm obviously just bat shit crazy.
JediMasterMalik
14/05/08 @ 15:20
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@penhalion - That's relatively true, how is it misinformation?
AL7AIR
14/05/08 @ 15:22
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So what? I enjoyed Resistance and I enjoyed Gears of War ... Single player as well as multi player, so I don't see why I wouldn't pick up both sequels.
HolyJebus
14/05/08 @ 15:23
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"Microsoft's Shane Kim believes that Gears of War 2 will be the biggest game of the year "

I believe he says it'll be the biggest game of the holidays, hardly the year, or have ye already forgotten about GTA since ye had no sales news about it today :)
Jtyettis
14/05/08 @ 15:25
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Well of course it is going to beat it.
Anthony_UK
14/05/08 @ 15:26
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What a stupid obvious thing to say, as awesome as gears was (Better than Fall of Man IMO). Like the article says Gears was a second/third generation title on the 360 which already had a fair size installed base at the time. Fall of Man was a release title for the PS3 for god sake!

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DrDamn
14/05/08 @ 15:26
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GoW lunched into a market of ~5m consoles. So I guess it depends on what your definition of "already large" is. Resistance has sold about 2.8m copies so far. Which considering it wasn't that great a game is surprising. Besides where are the people saying GoW it isn't a FPS?
Khanivor
14/05/08 @ 15:27
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Forgot to mention Resistance was officially bundled with many machines.

EG in Sony bias shocker!!!!
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14/05/08 @ 15:29
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gears of war 2 isn't going to be game of the year metal gear solid 4 is can't wait play that game!
phatb0y
14/05/08 @ 15:30
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Fuck me. These interviews/statements are getting more like pre-match wrestling banter by the day.

Still, as long as Cliff Bleszinski gets hit with a set of step ladders I won't be complaining too loudly.

Insomniac need to recruit Paul Bearer asap.
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14/05/08 @ 15:31
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Forgot to mention Resistance was officially bundled with many machines.

EG in Sony bias shocker!!!!


So was Gears, so what??

Oh, you're joking. Ok.
HolyJebus
14/05/08 @ 15:33
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Not that I care about console wars, but Halo 1 was a release title and sold more then pretty much any second or third generation game, so i'm not sure if how long the console was out is a valid argument. It's how many consoles are sold now, which are close enough between PS3 and 360. But as I said, couldn't give a fup.
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Psychotext
14/05/08 @ 15:34
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Erinan: Because women never bitch and snipe at each other... ever.
Weezer
14/05/08 @ 15:36
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I'm a fan of the 360 and a fan of Gears of War... and even I think that Kim's comment was unwarranted and a bit wanky.

Just leave it - let sales do the talking.
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14/05/08 @ 15:38
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uwe boll will beat both g2 and r2
Laika
14/05/08 @ 15:40
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Can someone tell me why it's important if Gears beats Resistance?
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14/05/08 @ 15:40
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"I love how enthused everyone is with how they're console will be the best, have the best game and make them the coolest on the playground. I'm more hopeful they'll both raise the standard of shooters for the better. I'm obviously just bat shit crazy."

Amen to that (not that you're bat shit crazy, the other bit :P).
Psychotext
14/05/08 @ 15:41
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vercetti102: Microsoft are the publishers. That means to all intents and purposes they own the game.
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14/05/08 @ 15:44
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When a publisher thinks if he prefers to have a GOTY award or an olympic pool full of money, I kinda think he'd prefer the later.

vercetti102, MS owns Gears IP, so I realy, realy doubt that will ever happen. But, it's a mad world..., and yes it has to do with him, closely. Epic even said that Gears had an important role when defining 360's architecture.
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themorganator
14/05/08 @ 16:04
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Eurogamers quest for site hits jumps to new levels of pointlessness with more fanboy baiting twaddle.

and, I fell for it..

GOW2 is going to pown Resistance 2. FACT
Colin8703
14/05/08 @ 16:10
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Saying it's going to be the biggest game of the year is a bit daft.

I've heard about this game called Grand Theft Auto 4.

It did quite well apparently.
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14/05/08 @ 16:21
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A small scale shooter with 5 vs 5 maximum matches, Vs a large scale shooter with 60 player matches. Shane kim never fails to amuse me.

I think he's worried that Gears 2, while still visually impressive, isnt receiving the same hype treatment of the first game, it will still sell well though, the entire resistance vs gears 1 thing is flawed, thats a launch title against a 2nd generation game on a system with a much larger install base at the time (as Eurogamer has kindly mentioned).

Things will be different this time, Resistance 2 is a 3rd gen title from Insomniac, if anything, gears will no longer have a visual advantage over resistance 2, but resistance 2 will certainly have a scale advantage over gears 2. not that it matters much to fanboys, but for new system adopters it may very well do.





Greychapter
14/05/08 @ 16:23
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Doesn't Call of Duty usually launch in November? I have a feeling that may sell a few copies.
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14/05/08 @ 16:24
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Next-Gen, it's all gone 'wanking for coins' crazy.

I'm looking forward to getting both, different games and all.
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14/05/08 @ 16:32
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Madlax wrote: "A small scale shooter with 5 vs 5 maximum matches, Vs a large scale shooter with 60 player matches. Shane kim never fails to amuse me."

Well, as yet we don't know the full scale of the battles for GeOW2 (it's certain to be more than the first game), and I don't think Kim is worried about the hype surrounding GeOW2, but yes, it was flawed for Resistance to be compared to GeOW in that way.
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14/05/08 @ 16:34
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As much as i want GOW2, Id be pretty worried concerning how RFOM2 is able to do 60 man battles and GOW2 cant. Infact i believe theres even more enemies on screen at once in RFOM1, or so im lead to believe than the original GOW.

Either way, trust MS mouth piece PR to say something like that.

/blames americans.
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14/05/08 @ 16:35
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Why are people saying you can't compare them?

In this case, of course you can - he is talking about hype, money, sales, acclaim etc. For that, it doesn't matter a s*** if the games are chalk and cheese.


And please, stfu about "omfg but 60 vs 5" Gears is that way because it's supposed to be that way, the nature of the gameplay and the way Epic intended the multiplayer to be dictated small team sizes. I'm quite sure that CB has even been quoted saying this. Oh. and also about the colour thing. Ever seen a warzone? Noticed how they tend not to be very colourful...well....yeah, there you go. Play Viva Pinata if you want to look at pretty colours.

So get over it.
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anamenos
14/05/08 @ 16:37
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easy win for GOW2
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14/05/08 @ 16:37
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@ Greychapter: In case you were on another planet, COD5 goes back to WWII and is developed by Treyarch rather than Infinity Ward. This isn't great news.
I wouldn't bet on it against these 2 titles (on their respective platform).
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14/05/08 @ 16:41
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Gears will sell more. Why? 'Cos it's more badass you know... :D
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14/05/08 @ 16:41
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Madlax, Gears of War was a 1st generation title for Xbox 360. EPICs 1st Xbox 360 game. 1st proper UE3 game.
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14/05/08 @ 16:44
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Biggest game of the year? Who's he trying to kid?
Ever heard of Metal Gear Solid or GTA?
Trigga_Tybalt
14/05/08 @ 16:46
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the problem i had with gears is its too samey. i played it for 10min and felt like i had seen everything. when i played it again at a later point in the game with my bro nothing was new and when i saw my mate beat the final boss it confirmed my suspicion that i had seen everything that game had to offer in the first 10min. resistance wasn't exactly an amazing game but it at least offered up some variety. and making the sales boasts like they did with GTA is pretty weak considering the install base.

anyway we all know mgs4 and gta before it will be better than both of them ;)
seasidebaz
14/05/08 @ 16:50
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both games will look nice, but probably be shit.

just like the prequels.

sorry, but someone had to say it.

although epic do make good tech demos, and insomniac do make good games featuring a robot and a mutant cat.
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14/05/08 @ 16:52
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Isn't this a case of apples and oranges? If they were both vying for the same customers then there might be a case for 'winning' but these games arent even on the same format. Sick and tired of all the dick measuring thats going on at the moment. Make a good game and we'll buy it. Now shut up and get back to work.
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@MrMilad
And please, stfu about "omfg but 60 vs 5" Gears is that way because it's supposed to be that way, the nature of the gameplay and the way Epic intended the multiplayer to be dictated small team sizes.

And you work at Epic so you know this is an objectionable fact?
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Firstly, the Gears IP belongs to Epic games (unless MS has bought it since November '06, and I doubt Epic would have sold it). Which means Epic can partner with whichever publisher they like, and release it for whichever console they want, unless MS got them to sign an exclusivity contract for N number of years or sequels.

Secondly, shut up Shane Kim, no-one old enough to legally buy the game cares.
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14/05/08 @ 17:12
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Well duh. Bit of a cock comment.

It will probably do it again as Resistance, while being okay, is just doom with prettier graphics. 60 player co-op with small teams sounds better than the standard matches in GoW though. Nothing beats GoW co-op though (except maybe RV61/2).
makeamazing
14/05/08 @ 17:14
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Ah what is wrong with these companies. Comparing sales of one game to another.. who cares.. at the end of the day what matters is that the product sells and makes them (the company) money.

I hope Sony at least be quiet on this, but somehow I dont think they will.
Xerx3s
14/05/08 @ 17:18
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"gears of war 2 isn't going to be game of the year metal gear solid 4 is can't wait play that game! "

I think that you will find that that depends on pov.

I see the usual "persecution complex" people are present in force as usual, sprouting their rubbish.

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