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GC: Epic Games' Mark Rein Interview

PC Xbox 360 PlayStation 3
Interview by Tom Bramwell

23 August, 2007

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Last year was "quite big" for Epic. Gears of War is, as Mark Rein gleefully tells us, the number one game of the generation so far. Unreal became the engine of choice for next-gen developers. There's no Gears sequel this year, but 2007 will still be big - if not bigger - for the little developer from North Carolina. Unreal Tournament 3 is set to launch in November on PS3 and PC. Gears of War is coming to PC with new content. The games that Unreal powers are starting to arrive in droves - headlined by the likes of BioShock. So Mark Rein, Epic's vice president and chief evangelist, is as giddy as ever. When we run into him in Leipzig, it takes us 15 minutes to drag him into the interview room - he just wants to shoot the breeze. Fortunately he saved some good bits for the tape. Read on for the latest on UT3, Gears PC, the Gears film and Unreal Engine 3.

Eurogamer: How much longer would you say the period is before it starts looking silly with you denying Gears of War 2?

Mark Rein: [Laughs] I'll pass on that one.

Eurogamer: I'm trying to find a way round for you, Mark!

Mark Rein: [Laughing] We're still waiting to see how well the first one does. Did I say that with a straight face? We have the Windows version - that's going to be a fantastic game. We've got five new chapters in the game, we've got a bunch of new multiplayer maps, and the game runs really, really well. We're using Games For Windows Live, which is the perfect complement to Xbox Live. Everything works pretty much the same - it's easy to get into games, and there's going to be a level editor so there's going to be some great mods, great user-created maps. So there's still too much more to do on Gears for us to be talking about the sequel.

Eurogamer: How much story are we going to get out of the additional PC content? You left quite a lot hanging.

Mark Rein: I'm not the guy to answer exactly what the story adds, but we fill in a fairly large block of story right before the final Act in the game. People had a few questions - why am I here, why am I doing this, where did this train come from, where's the Brumak - so we filled in a little bit of that. It's about 20 percent more gameplay than the original.

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Eurogamer: You keep saying you can't do the Windows content on the 360, and I think the reasons for that are very well known now, but-

Mark Rein: I want people to understand that it would just be a huge, huge job. People don't realise that we made a lot of changes at the end, and since we locked off the Gears code back in September or October [06]. The code that powers the Xbox is now almost a year old. And we patched it - we made a bunch of updates to that code-base. And to go and to take that code-base and to bring it up to the latest code-base the Windows version is built on? That would be a bigger update than all the updates we've done so far combined. We risk breaking multiplayer compatibility. We risk breaking something else. It's just not worth it. We would spend months and months testing and doing it.

People want us to bring Unreal Tournament 3 to Xbox 360 - well, that would push that back probably five or six months, and we don't want to push that back any further. We have so many things going. It'd be a real house of cards to do that. It may be possible to bring some of the multiplayer maps back - that's a little bit easier - but the single-player code's changed a lot and it's not worth all that.

Eurogamer: Are you going to add anything more to the 360 version?

Mark Rein: I don't know. Maybe we'll do some more multiplayer stuff. We look at it when we have time to do things - where can we effectively spend our time and what would be the best thing to do. I'm really not aware of any specific thing that we have planned, but I wasn't aware of any specific things we had planned before we did the last pack. It's also a question of pacing.

Eurogamer: What impact does it have on you then when a company like id comes along with their series of claims about their new technology and how it can do things better than everybody else?

Mark Rein: They're a good company, and they've always been a strong competitor to us in both the games and the engine, and obviously we love their games. We're looking forward to playing Rage as much as the next guy. Same with Crysis. That's the thing about the shooter market - people see us and they think there's this great, horrible 'you must kill each other' competition, but we don't think that way. We love these games. We don't have competition between us and them, or between us and our licensees. We see it as a great market of great products. It's like - I'm not just gonna read one author if I want to read mystery authors, I'll have five or six or eight that I really love. We think there's a place for everybody in the market and we're quite happy to just be a player in it.

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23/08/07 @ 07:00
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So Epic, do you use the Edge Libraries in your engine yet?
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23/08/07 @ 07:27
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so... Halo will kick butt?
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23/08/07 @ 07:27
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Wasn't the director rumour Len Wiseman? If so, I say good choice, sure he can't really do deep and meaningful, but the guy can certainly shoot an action scene. Ohh and I still stand by my original choice of Dominic Purcell playing Marcus, y'know it makes sense.
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so halo2 is the games for windows title?
what engine does halo3 use?

do like the interview, run a spelling checker next time ;)
TonyCocaCola
23/08/07 @ 08:19
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He doesnt look like he'd give much pocket money.
Dizzy
23/08/07 @ 08:53
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Please no GoW movie :(
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23/08/07 @ 09:09
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'Gears of War: The Movie'
'The Locust Horde'
'The Day the Earth Moved'
'Crounching Gears, Hidden Locusts'
'The Revenge of the ***** Large Shoulders'
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CrispyXUK
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Why do we keep hearing from this bloke?
RedPanda
23/08/07 @ 09:24
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Did this interview benefit from Gears of War?
TonyCocaCola
23/08/07 @ 09:24
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Gears of war film could be good if done right.. but we all know that it wont be done right
mkreku
23/08/07 @ 09:38
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Why do I have a feeling that "The Rock" will be in this movie..?
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23/08/07 @ 09:44
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Didn't he once promise lots of new content for Gears on the 360? And that it would be free?
Xerx3s
23/08/07 @ 09:48
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Ow look, somebody made halo 3 comment. Look everybody, look how cool he is!
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23/08/07 @ 09:50
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I don't know about everyone else but I think I'd prefer getting more Gears content than Unreal Tournament. UT just doesn't excite me at all. Where's my GoW: Game of the Year edition!? *Cracks whip at Epic*
TonyCocaCola
23/08/07 @ 09:56
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I think john dimaggio should play marcus
23/08/07 @ 10:06
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I'm gonna buy this game though I'm not a fan of FPS games, just to support Epic.
Since with this game they're stopping all the rabbid xbots mouths. Everytime a game comes out on the PS3 they go Gears of War is da bomb, nothing beats Gears.

Well, UT3 on PS3 bulldozes all over Gears, at a lightning 60fps as opposed to 30fps on Gears.

Great job Epic.
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23/08/07 @ 10:20
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Hansi320 you are a PSwiener.

it's not even out, you have a bunch of promises and all you can add to the conversation is hate. Go home, grow up.

I'm not for any console in particular, just saying rubbish like that is just stupid.
TonyCocaCola
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Good job man, im sure they'll put your 40 quid to good use. Its people like you that keep these small time game companies going. Nice.
mkreku
23/08/07 @ 10:54
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I do that with Piranha Bytes :D
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23/08/07 @ 10:58
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Eurogamer: But it does raise the question then: Denis states you did not hit a single deadline with delivery of the finished engine on 360 and PS3 that your contract had agreed to, many of the promised features are missing or diluted, and you yourselves had to use 3rd party plug-in’s to get the engine running fastest enough to pass Microsoft certification?


Mark Rein: I don't have anything brilliant to add to that.
Rodney
23/08/07 @ 12:09
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Hansi320

Wow, you pretty much want to give your money away just to support your preferred platform....

thats great
Madlax
23/08/07 @ 12:42
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it seems UT3 will exceed Gears visually, cant wait for november,hope we wont wait long for mods to come

Seems second-gen games on the ps3 are a significant improvement over first-gen games like motorstorm and resistance, makes you wonder what we,l see in the coming 3 years

Killzone 2 cant come soon enough

It seems some people here dont like the fact that UT3 is step ahead of Gears, makes me wonder why...

i hope its not related to the PS3
thedaveeyres
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**I MOVE AWAY FROM THE MIKE TO BREATHE IN
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24/08/07 @ 09:14
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Surprisingly little bullcrap in this interview considering that it's Mark Rein you're talking to.

Him and... Kevin Cloud if id (IIRC) can talk so much crap that I usually stop reading after only a couple of paragraphs when either of them are interviewed.

And can we please stop talking about the lawsuit?

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