Forza Motorsport 3 details and DLC plans?

By Tom Bramwell Published 16 June, 2008

Yet more from the Intellisponse blunder.

Forza Motorsport 3 could include over 400 cars and 100 tracks, brand new race modes and take up so much space it requires two DVDs.

That's according to information leaked as part of the gigantic Intellisponse breach this weekend, rounded up by X3F. Intellisponse is a market research firm, and it looks like naughtier sections of the Internet have been rifling through its bins.

Forza 3, which Microsoft has not officially announced, is detailed in a slideshow that also mentions extensive plans for downloadable content and a VIP service for letting people subscribe to access everything for a one-off fee. Presumably the idea was to get a section of the public's feedback on specific pricing scenarios. Well, that's certainly going to happen now.

Those new race modes we mentioned include "drag, drift, oval, point to point racing, etc", and there's talk of "near limitless customisation options for car tuning and custom artwork" and a "powerful assist system" to help idiots learn to drive. Forza 2 had those things, obviously, so we'll assume they are now bigger and better, if not more badass.

"Assume that new cars and tracks would be released on Xbox Live shortly after the launch of Forza 3 and continuing on each month," the slides continue, preparing to test the group's reactions. "For example, every month you might see a new pack of 10 cars for [GBP 3.40 / USD 4.99 - there are US and UK slides] and every three months, a real-world race track for [GBP 3.40 / USD 4.99]." There could also be larger expansions - perhaps 30 cars and a new track for GBP 13.60 / USD 19.99 - a few months after release.

More interesting is talk of a VIP membership option for GBP 13.60 / USD 19.99, which would sign you up to download everything that's released for the game on Xbox Live, entrance into exclusive online events, and other perks like "VIP status on Forza Auction House and Community boards, extra server space for photos and videos, and a free month of Live".

There could also be a Collector's Edition of the game featuring unique content. "This could be anything from authentic racing gear (gloves, helmets, etc) to specially created automobile manufacture gear (branded jackets, etc) to VIP motorsport event tickets"

Finally, there's talk of a special 2010 edition of Forza Motorsport 3 to launch a year after release rounding up all the previous 12 months' DLC and adding 30 new cars, a new real-world racing track and 2010 liveries for each existing vehicle, along with the top 20 user-generated car skins and tuning set-ups. This would then slot in at a mid-range price.

At this point, Microsoft has yet to officially comment on anything Forza 3-related. It's also worth reiterating that the information smuggled out of Intellisponse is not secret squirrel blueprints for Forza 3, but rather possible scenarios to test responses.

Speaking of which, it will be interesting to see how those involved in this impressive Internet meltdown go about cleaning it up.

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  • Der_tolle_Emil #1 4 years ago

    I want this, but I'm afraid I will spend more time designing cars than racing like I did in Forza 2. Although the point to point races may change that - I really like those.

  • DFawkes #2 4 years ago

    I had a weird obsessive DLC buying disorder with Forza 2 - I had several cars and tracks that I've never played, and I don't even have a 360 anymore so I never will! So to that end, this lifetime membership thing sounds great, it'd have saved me lots of money last time around.

  • ruttyboy #3 4 years ago

    I'm confused, so if an updated reissue is due out in 2010, the original would be out in 2009? Getting close to Xbox 720 timeframes surely?

  • bad09 #4 4 years ago

    Great, and no Forza 3 prologue cash milking either...what?...going straight for the DLC cash milking? oh.......

  • asphaltcowboy #5 4 years ago

    Sounds great! I do love the painting :) In fact, I've been playing it again recently simply because I did too much painting last time! What they REALLY need to make the decal editor absolutely fantastic is to include a proper vector graphics tool for creating custom vector shapes rather than having to use pre-existing shapes for designs (or just let us draw vector graphics on PC and import them - not bitmaps of course! :p)

  • Raz76 #6 4 years ago

    Sounds great but pleeaaase make a less boring career mode this time.

  • muftak #7 4 years ago

    2 discs eh , i thought dvd 9 was enough space for this gen .

    suddenly bluray wasnt a bad format choice for sony was it.

  • bad09 #8 4 years ago

    @ muftak

    Not to start a fanboy war (i own both) but I'd rather have two disks than a SLOW speed drive which needs HDD space to run games......

  • Kill_Crazy #9 4 years ago

    Hmm, 400 cars sounds good but how many of these do you have to buy as DLC? Also, planning on releasing the dlc shortly after release is a bit off, fair enough 3 or 6 months down the line but it feels like money grabbing all the time.

  • muftak #10 4 years ago

    @bad09

    well i rather not have to get up halfway through a race to change the discs arpund so the install and slow speed suits me fine . must be microsofts idea of wii fit .

    oh and before a smart arse says , i know disc changes wont happen during a race it was a joke.
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 10:43

  • coojam #11 4 years ago

    Please just don't go down the GRID route. I don't doubt it's a fantastic game, but Forza seems like the last bastion of simulation racing on the 360 and I love it. The whole DLC thing is starting to sound like a con though.

  • moggsy #12 4 years ago

    @ muftek

    suddenly bluray wasnt a bad format choice for sony was it.

    You'd need to speak to Sony's accountants and ask them that ;-)

  • Peew971 #13 4 years ago

    I like the VIP idea, they should make this a standard option on all the games.

  • asphaltcowboy #14 4 years ago

    i rather not have to get up halfway through a race to change the discs arpund

    lmao! silly. billy.

  • seasidebaz #15 4 years ago

    Hmmm... DVD's not quite big enough any more then, eh?

    Of course, this is all rumour and speculation at the moment, my guess is that if forza3 ever DOES come out, it will fit on 1 disc, then everything else will be dlc.

    Problem I see though, I though Turn10 were working on PGR5 according to another (older) rumour? So I don't see them making Forza3 at the same time...

  • The-Bodybuilder #16 4 years ago

    So the game hasn't finished development, yet there are plans for specific DLC, and after that, a special compilation title?
    No one can argue that developers aren't holding back contents for games now.

    I'm beginning to hate games.

  • Eraysor #17 4 years ago

    If they put the awesome Japanese mountain point to point races from the original in Forza 3 I will buy it for sure.

  • miiiguel #18 4 years ago

    what's " naughty cars" ?

  • miiiguel #19 4 years ago

    the old Blu-Ray DVD9 debate..., from a buisness point of view, I think it made sense for MS to put a DVD9. For games (360 is a games box) it is better (comparing with the PS3 HD install needs), and I never met no one that didn't buy a 360 because he thought PS3 games were better, due to Blu-Ray (or anything really, but that's another issue).

    And, 360 has +300 tiltes, two of them are multi-disc (and they're both awesome and exclusives!).
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 10:57

  • muftak #20 4 years ago

    @lavalant

    funny that 5 gig takes 8 mins , wonder if you just learnt a word called exagarate on your word of the day calender!!

  • asphaltcowboy #21 4 years ago

    "Problem I see though, I though Turn10 were working on PGR5 according to another (older) rumour? So I don't see them making Forza3 at the same time..."

    Incorrect. Shane Kim said something along the lines of 'Turn10 could, possibly, do PGR5, maybe'

    "what's " naughty cars" ?"

    If you've been on the AH in Forza 2, it's almost a certainty that you've seen a naughty car (i.e. a car with questionable content painted on it)

  • seasidebaz #22 4 years ago

    @asphalt:

    You appear to have missed the word "rumour" I put in there...

    Anyway, Forza3 would need to do many MANY things to beat GT5, especially seeing as both will release around the same time.

  • rhubarbandcustard #23 4 years ago

    My games library grows smaller every year. Not because I am moving away from gaming as a hobby but because great games have so much content these days. Between this and Gran Turismo 5, you would not need to buy another car game this entire generation. Especially with dlc.

  • asphaltcowboy #24 4 years ago

    "You appear to have missed the word "rumour" I put in there..."

    Yes, but the rumour was that they could work on PGR5 maybe in the future, the rumour was not that they are working on PGR5.

    EDIT: oh and LMFAO @ "Anyway, Forza3 would need to do many MANY things to beat GT5, especially seeing as both will release around the same time"! Are you on crack? farticus has pretty much covered the response needed for that comment!
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 11:16

  • Peew971 #25 4 years ago

    "Forza3 would need to do many MANY things to beat GT5"

    What the f***? The only thing Forza needs to get from GT is a cockpit view, GT5 will most likely compete against Forza 2!
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 11:23

  • seasidebaz #26 4 years ago

    Ummm... Yeah, trouble is I know you guys are 360 fanboys, and I am console neutral as I basically play whatever's good, Forza3 may not even be made. This is purely a market research exercise.

    GT5 is getting a damage model. And varying weather conditions. It models a car far more accurately than Forza when actually driving it (and I know as I have been racing on a real track in a real car).

    Forza2 was a good game, but in no way the best driving game so far. Cars could be tuned to ridiculous levels that are impossible in real life. At least GT retains realism.

    Forza3 needs to be a complete overhaul, rather than the very tiny step-up from Forza1. And yes, I have owned both games, played them more or less one after the other, and can say they are the same game. IF (and it's a big if) this game IS being made, and is half-decent, I will buy it. BUT GT5, with all the improvements that are going into it, will probably be better.

  • KreyAtiv #27 4 years ago

    I'm not too sure if adding those race modes is their way of dipping their toe into the Need for Speed Most Wanted water or if they want to just go for everything "racing" this time around. Be good if they added in some pick up trucks or SUV's and the like for their own league of racing. :)

  • Xerx3s #28 4 years ago

    "Ummm... Yeah, trouble is I know you guys are 360 fanboys, and I am console neutral as I basically play whatever's good, Forza3 may not even be made. This is purely a market research exercise."

    "It models a car far more accurately than Forza when actually driving it (and I know as I have been racing on a real track in a real car). "

    Lol!

    "At least GT retains realism. "

    Hate to brake it to you mate but like Forza, gt has as much realism as a 2d mario sprite. You lot call them 'simulators' but truth is that they are far from that (yes I too played both).

  • seasidebaz #29 4 years ago

    I'm sorry but I've had enough of this fanboy nonsense from you. I get the feeling YOU haven't played either. Or been racing in real life. Or found GT5 too hard (and to be fair, it's a lot harder than Forza2...)

    Forza2 consisted of me putting a rear-wheel drivetrain into a ford focus, adding all the racing upgrades, tweaking very slightly, and managing to get the thing to do 0-60 in about half a second, top speed of about 200mph and beating purebred sports cars down the straights. And all this power from a 2.2litre engine.

    Realistic? Yeah, sure...

    I'm sorry if you like to crash into people / objects / anything else in a racing game, but guess what? That's why burnout is popular.

    I like good games, I enjoyed Forza2, but GT5p is a hell of a lot better as a pure racer. And now they're adding dynamic weather and a damage model, there's not much difference apart from one's on the Xbox and one's on the PS3. Which in your opinion instantly makes it pants.

    Oh, that and the fact that GT5 will come on 1 disc...

  • adamamosa #30 4 years ago

    I think you should have the option to install one of the discs onto the hd - for those who have an elite. . . . just a thought.

  • T4RG4 #31 4 years ago

    Bah - its just some shite marketing slides promoting discussion amongst themselves and perhaps a 'review' group. 80% of the stuff listed probably wouldn't happen (gloves? helmets? tickets? who gives a toss).

    It just highlights how little the 'marketing team' really understand about the product and people they are trying to sell to.


    Forza 3 I'd love to be able to purchase, and it has nothing to do with any of the crap listed in the article.

    Forza 2 was slightly boring in career mode, but multiplayer, the paint shop, its frame-rate and the superb handling model made up for everything. It is a golden wonder of a racing game in my book (time attack and multiplayer only mind ;) )

    Yes, it looks bland (perhaps to maintain frame-rate) at times but anyone who loves racing games outside the Arcade bracket will know it has almost everything that matters. The GT series used to lead the way, played it over and over in multiplayer and time attack of course (see a trend in more realistic racing games here?) but where the hell is the new one? A beefed up slice of a game that should have been out ages ago? Brilliant. That is why I no longer have faith in Polyphony. They seem to be somewhat slow at developing and, from a position of great strength, seem to be doing little to overtake the new king of racers.

    Forza 2 may, for some people, be less than stellar in the graphics department at times (I personally think it can be quite pretty), may appear less than feature packed (Is GT5 going to be?) but it is a truly great driving simulator. Drive the Ring in a high-powered real wheel drive road car without any aides and tell me that isn't driving crack ;) Forza 3 needs weather and host enforced pit-stop options...


    Oh - and I'm quite sure it WONT come on two discs ffs, its not a MMORG with tons of video - Stop taking the article contents as gospel, its trash.

    Edits for awful spelling.
    Edited by 2 at 16/06/08 @ 12:17

  • Xerx3s #32 4 years ago

    "I'm sorry but I've had enough of this fanboy nonsense from you. I get the feeling YOU haven't played either. Or been racing in real life. Or found GT5 too hard (and to be fair, it's a lot harder than Forza2...) "

    Heh.

  • Xerx3s #33 4 years ago

    It's a well-known fact that the handling in gt5 is not so good. When a game like GTA4 has better handling, you know they did something wrong.

  • miiiguel #34 4 years ago

    @ seasidedude:
    "I've only had about 10-12 PS3 games, but enjoyed every one of them more than an equivalent 360 game."
    "Microsoft, get your act together, then give your fanboys a break from the constant defending they're having to do at the moment. "
    "Factor things in like Halol3, which I bought and a few days later traded back in, along with many MANY other people"
    and when everything fails:
    "ps3 games are far, FAR more robust. "
    There are more... something about 360 owners beeing stupid, and MS and EA beeing evil guys...


    Now tell me, this one makes sense ?:
    "I am console neutral "
    Edited by 2 at 16/06/08 @ 12:50

  • seasidebaz #35 4 years ago

    @farticus:

    Good post. You have gone up a long way in my estimation ;) although I do like the car-porn of gt5. Like I said, Forza2 was enjoyable, I don't feel it was as realistic though. Or as difficult.

    @miiiguel:

    seasidebaz (aka barryhaswell on Xbox Live) ... has a gamerscore of 7580

    And that hasn't been updated in a very long time cos I don't have a 360 at the moment, and haven't done for about 6 months...

    Factor in that Halo3 was just an overhyped joke (Wooo big scary generic aliens, a generic homoerotic lead character, and a level designed like a bumhole and you'll see what I mean...) and that the 10-12 games that I've had on PS3 have been better than a 360 equivalent (Uncharted > Tombraider, Oblivion > Oblivion, Everybody's Golf > Tiger Woods, and so on...)

    I like a lot of games on the 360. I also don't like a lot of games for both consoles (MotorStorm was the biggest waste of £20 I ever spent...) So yeah. I am console neutral. Please don't start taking my comments out of context again.

  • miiiguel #36 4 years ago

    "Factor in that Halo3 was just an overhyped joke (Wooo big scary generic aliens, a generic homoerotic lead character, and a level designed like a bumhole and you'll see what I mean...)"
    what did you expected it to be ? A dramatic RPG ? I mean...?!??

    "10-12 games that I've had on PS3 have been better than a 360 equivalent (Uncharted > Tombraider, Oblivion > Oblivion, Everybody's Golf > Tiger Woods, and so on...)"
    you'll have a hard time reaching 10..., face it.

    "Please don't start taking my comments out of context again."
    The context seems to be that you hold a grudge to MS (maybe it's because they're filthy rich, or something you read on the internet..., maybe because you were fine with the Sony monopoly of last gen, who knows - most likely not even you), and that's fine, a lot feel that way. I only kinda dislike one thing, in many posts you describe 360 users as some sort of different race who dont deserve the same respect.

    "I am console neutral."
    not true, imho, for the reasons posted above.


    on-topic: I prefer PGR. ;)

  • Xerx3s #37 4 years ago

    "Factor in that Halo3 was just an overhyped joke (Wooo big scary generic aliens, a generic homoerotic lead character, and a level designed like a bumhole and you'll see what I mean...) and that the 10-12 games that I've had on PS3 have been better than a 360 equivalent (Uncharted > Tombraider, Oblivion > Oblivion, Everybody's Golf > Tiger Woods, and so on...) "

    Oh dear.

  • SentientNr6 #38 4 years ago

    I absolutely love Forza2 and will buy Forza3 if they don't change the handling too much as it was near perfect.
    All I want is better visuals and more tracks.

  • Rodney #39 4 years ago

    this arguement really annoys me

    "I'm sorry if you like to crash into people / objects / anything else in a racing game, but guess what? That's why burnout is popular."

    it is so blinkered. The people who say this invariabley are the ones who also hold the GT series up as some pinnacle of realism....

    GT looks stunning but then when you see the cars bumping into each other and bouncing off scenery it completely spoils the illusion, it would be a lot more realistic and more sim-like if it had propper collision physics.

    Objective fact; in this regard Forza is superior, if only by default because it actually has some collision physics.



    Agree with farticusmaximus

    The replay camera angles in Forza 2 were terrible, far too zoomed in on the car so you could never see the driving line/drifting around corners
    Corvette races were rubbish, infact most stock American car races were rubbish.

    Forza 3 needs more tracks! the lack of tracks in Forza 2 seriously made career mode tedious.

    The Oval circuit was boring and New York was lame, basically two long straights joined by a couple of corners.


    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 13:41

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  • DrDamn #43 4 years ago

    I can verify Farticus has played both Forza 2 and GT5p and also has a very nice but in need of repair Celica GT4 in his garage which he has used on numerous real tracks. He also has a frame picture of him with a dodgy looking 'tache stood next to a Ferrari on a track day.

    Personally I slightly prefer GT5p handling - but, and this is the crux - I prefer it as to me it is a little easier. Graphically GT5p is better but suffers from the occasional tear/frame rate issue - it's really not that far off smoothness mind with the problems being related to specific tracks or conditions. One thing I don't like about GT5p is the tire squeal SFX, that does my nut.

    Introduction of damage to GT5 proper may resolve some of the differences between Forza and the GT series, but as a driving experience currently I think Forza has the edge in overall technical terms.

  • Xerx3s #44 4 years ago

    Forza 2 is like wipeout with wheels.

  • chris_ace #45 4 years ago

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  • seasidebaz #46 4 years ago

    @chris_ace:

    GT5p looks RUBBISH at 720p. Jaggies / Tearing / Slowdown - awful.

    1080p is probably no better (although unable to try it...)

    1080i looks unbelievable, however. Nowhere near as many jaggies, no slowdown, no tearing (except a little on London...) Only trouble is it then displays DVDs in interlaced mode, so resolution needs to be switched again.

    At least Forza2 is consistent. And it doesn't look that awful, just not stunning (edit: until I played in HD resolutions, then it looked a bit "meh" but was functional)

    That said, the car paintjob tools took it to another level. Just wish they'd actually released the tool for Mobile that let you paint cars on the go.
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 15:22

  • moggsy #47 4 years ago

    GT2 came on 2 disks. Don't remember it spoiling my enjoyment of that classic game...

  • MrChuckles #48 4 years ago

    I dropped out of Sony after never being able to buy all of the region locked strategy and RPG games that came out in the US and therefore haven't player GT since GT3. I always used to think it had the best handling, but the collisions were dreadful, and the opponents bunching up around you were awful too.

    Since then i have been 360-centric. PGR2 was good, PGR 3 awful, and PGR 4 pretty good again, but i'd put Forza above both of them. Although the races are actually less fun than PGR4 in short bursts, it does feel a lot more realistic. I tried GRID recently, and it was dire, i dunno how anyone can play that game...

    Anyway now ironically, with a bunch of strategy & RPG games being locked on the 360, it might be time to get a PS3 too.

  • T4RG4 #49 4 years ago

    I don't quite understand why people are holding up a copy of Forza 2 against others holding up a copy of GT5p as an indicator of which is the best machine? Teams are different.

    Whoever implemented the physics setup and pushed for such realism at Turn 10 gets a massive thumbs up from me. The graphics engine team at Polyphony get a massive thumbs up too... just a slightly smaller thumb due to reported update/slowdown perhaps? All in all I'd personally go for Forza 2 and 60fps. No doubt the next version of the game that comes out (shouldn't GT5p 'look' better after all this time?) will be improved but we need that solid 60fps once again (the holy grail IMO). Forza 2 sucks in many areas (boring career mode, level of AI competition once you've tuned your car, shocking replay camera angles, only 8 players, no weather blah).

    I'm against Polyphony, for a number of reasons (some personal but the prime being their shocking development time-frames) yet still regard the GT series as legendary. Forza gets so many things right for me, but when it comes down to the facts, either title is a million times better than the other racing games available on console.

    Weather, weather, weather... that is what is needed now. Forza 3, make it so!
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 16:04

  • Andee #50 4 years ago

    @farticus
    "Regarding handling:

    I guess everyone comes away from a real-life experience with a certain imprint of what their emotions and responses were, and games can attempt to trigger some of those but ultimately those responses and emotions are recalled and interpreted differently by every persons brain.

    In real life we may have driven the same track in identical cars but we would still have different 'memories' of the event, and thus realism of anything but visuals in any game has to be viewed with a large degree of subjectivity. "

    That has to be the most sensible point that i've ever read on the forza/gt comparisons.
    For me personally, Forza has had the edge in this sense, though the gt5p 'simulation' mode seems to be very close.

    I just hope Turn10 take a little more care with the art assets in Forza3, as the differing qualities of some of the car models is very noticeable, especially compared to the consistency in the gt games. Though i guess its a trade off between getting games out on time vs lengthy delays.

  • cyber_nicco #51 4 years ago

    So many stupid posts and posters... Does not compute... System meltdown detected...

    This is marketing research to see what people think about these different DLC scenarios - not a fair indication of what's going to be in place. I, for one, don't mind paying for downloadable content in general. Sure, there are many cases where the DLC is overpriced, and I don't get that DLC. On the other hand, it might be just right for someone else. This whole notion of "it should have been in the original game" is just nonsense. Who suggests what "should" be in the game? Some jackass on a EG thread? If the original content of the game doesn't merit its purchase price, then don't buy it. If it does, then there you go...

    p.s. Both Forzas were/are awesome. Both games probably got/get the most playtime from me on their respective consoles.

  • miiiguel #52 4 years ago

    I like DLCs..., a lot. It makes me revisit games, and I like that. Playing a game that I'm familiar with with new stuff in. Very nice.
    Edited by 1 at 16/06/08 @ 17:12

  • seasidebaz #53 4 years ago

    Oh, I just had a thought about this "100 tracks" rumour that came along with it as well.

    If tradition holds up, that means there will be around 12 tracks, each with 2 layouts, driven forwards and backwards, with a mirror option. Obviously this varies slightly, as the Nurburgring can have 3-4 variations by itself.

    That would then make it 12x2x2x2, or 96 "tracks" (as a preliminary estimate).

    I seriously hope Turn10 don't take this route. It should have gone out with the 80's.

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  • DjFlex52 #55 4 years ago

    Oh, I just had a thought about this "100 tracks" rumour that came along with it as well.

    If tradition holds up, that means there will be around 12 tracks, each with 2 layouts, driven forwards and backwards, with a mirror option. Obviously this varies slightly, as the Nurburgring can have 3-4 variations by itself.

    That would then make it 12x2x2x2, or 96 "tracks" (as a preliminary estimate).

    @seasidebaz

    I guess....
    I am console neutral = trash MS games excessively

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  • SomaticSense #57 4 years ago

    This would be ace. All it needs is AI that doesn't act like a twat, and more varied selection of tracks (a higher number of them would be nice as well, this time...).

    I used to be a GT obsessive, and wasn't a fan of Forza 1 at all. But Forza 2 was fantastic, so if they keep up this level of quality progression then No3 should be amazing :)

  • T4RG4 #58 4 years ago

    I dont know why people want so many tracks. Isnt the fun at least knowing what corner comes up next and improving your line and speed through it?

    22 tracks (picked from the air) and loads of cars would suit me. No shitty reverse modes though.

  • SomaticSense #59 4 years ago

    22 tracks would be fantastic, and would be a huge step up from the 5 or 6 that were in the last one.

    /post extracted of all Turn 10 terminology PR bullshit

  • DAN.E.B #60 4 years ago

    "I am console neutral.


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SentientNr6 #61 4 years ago

    @chris_ace "PGR4 looks really nice as does gt5p, forza 2 looks barren and the car models are poor compared to the two titles i just mentioned"

    But in PGR4 career mode I noticed the occasional frame drop when it was raining. Not on all tracks but still disturbing. Never had such issues with Forza 2. So while I also hope Forza 3 will have better graphics they should not compromise on fps, handling etc...

  • FooAtari #62 4 years ago

    /wonders if Forza 3 will be a better sequel.

    2 was nothing more than a graphical overhaul. Developers for the most part are getting so lazy. Releasing the same thing over and over and again.

  • zzzrByte #63 3 years ago

    Forget leaks... The release date has already been confirmed for late October according to ForzaMotorsport3.com and there's a ton of trailers and screenshots out.

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