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Forza 3 has Le Mans tracks, modes News

Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese

12 June, 2009

Microsoft has confirmed the inclusion of notorious and prestigious endurance race 24 Hours of Le Mans in Forza Motorsport 3.

This is the real-life event where drivers race over the course of an entire day, taking frequent stops at Welcome Inns up and down the M1.

Le Mans circuits Le Sarthe and Bugatti will be included, as will the 24 Hours of Le Mans multi-class racing mode.

Microsoft also announced an enormous garage of over 100 cars for Forza Motorsport 3, which launches exclusively on Xbox 360 this October.

Developer Turn 10 revved the Forza Motorsport 3 engine loud and proud at E3 this year, promising "the best simulator on any console". Yamauchi! That's bold.

Luckily, we had plenty of hands-on time with Forza Motorsport 3 to test the claims.

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steoc4
12/06/09 @ 18:45
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Does any game not have Le Mans these days? It's the new Nurburgring.

/is sick of doing the Le Mans 24 hour every four races in GRID
b00n
12/06/09 @ 18:47
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I'm HAPPY it doesn't have F1, WRC or Nascar, because i don't want it in Forza. If i'd want it, i'd buy a Nascar game, or a F1 game.

And the article talks about 100 cars, wasn't it 400 cars and 100 tracks instead?
Ryze
12/06/09 @ 18:49
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Any more info on supported steering wheels? I've not heard enough good about the MS wheel and its support in games to splash out on one.
Digital~Orgasm
12/06/09 @ 18:53
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Excellent, glad my fave track is in the game. This is shaping up to be one hell of a racer.
Eraysor
12/06/09 @ 19:05
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100 cars?

Should be fun. I'd love to see an actual 24 hour mode.
BlackANUS
12/06/09 @ 19:06
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@evilfoxhound

I don't give a shit if it doesnt include F1, WRC or NASCAR.

What I give a shit about is that it's SHIPPING SOON and it is a significant upgrade to the prior release.

So let's say that a rival game in this genre does ship with F1, WRC and NASCAR in the next few years. What's to say that a new Forza will be released 1 year after said rival game and only 2 years after the release of Forza 3? You can hold your breath waiting but I'd rather be playing.
Darren
12/06/09 @ 19:12
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NASCAR is boring IMO, racing around loops with no right hand bend is not my idea of fun at all, so I'm glad it's not included in Forza 3. As for F1, Codemasters are releasing a proper simulation with ALL the licenses, tracks and cars so that's that covered. WRC...? DiRT 2 is on the way, no doubt with lots of rally cars and dozens and dozens of long and interesting tracks like DiRT.

While it's commendable that GT5 will include a variety of racing types, if nothing else they add some variety, they'll only be samples of what the full thing offers, a handful of tracks and cars at most. Personally I'd rather have full games based on each type... at least that way I can avoid NASCAR!!! ;)
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12/06/09 @ 19:13
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P.S. @evilfoxhound - I own the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC so no sour grapes here, buddy!
BlackANUS
12/06/09 @ 19:19
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Hey! I own a Nintendo DS and have a PS2 somewhere in my parents garage (I live in the basement), so I know my stuff when it comes to owning multiple consoles!
betahoven
12/06/09 @ 19:31
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"Shit GT5 has WRC and NASCAR, get a licenced race quick!"
Bad Devotions
12/06/09 @ 19:40
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please let there be brands hatch gp circuit
chronom4n
12/06/09 @ 19:42
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If GT5 has day/night cycles with the Le Mans, than i can say that F3 will be losing. I am looking forward to both consoles and assuming that they are worth their weight in gold, than i will buy both games.
RobotRocker
12/06/09 @ 19:45
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If Turn 10 really loved us. They would include Brands Hatch, Catalunya, Suzuka, Bathurst Mt.Panorama, Istanbul, Infineon Raceway and Spa Francochamps.

And Bring Back the point to point races from Forza 1. The Japanese Mountain tracks were awesome fun.
Widge
12/06/09 @ 20:07
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Nascar is terrible! Lets drive round in a circle for 500 laps!
miiiguel
12/06/09 @ 20:10
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Nascallol. Evildude, you must be joking right?, turn left, left, left, then more left, then left again.

Or maybe it's something else... Meh... 2005 called they want their system-warz back.
RedSparrows
12/06/09 @ 20:16
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Evilfoxhound:

'Just a few sour grapes in here, jesus LOL I guess only owning one console makes you very bitter. '

I guess you're just a fanboy for...no reason then? Enlighten me.

/yawn
Tetsuo_Shima
12/06/09 @ 20:27
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Le Mans is nice, at least Circuit de la Sarthe, one of my favourite tracks from GT4, is making an appearance. As RobotRocker says, though, they should really get Infineon, Spa, Istabul et al in a about it as well. It's shaping up reasonably nicely now, probably not gonna best GT5 but we'll see. Something to keep me busy in the meantime anyhow.
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milky_09
12/06/09 @ 21:01
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gt already has this. no biggie.

i think where ps3 and gt excell is any wheel will work with it. (including the awesome g25)

and 360 players are forced to use a handful of half decent wheels.

in terms of content forza will never match gt. ok it has the ability to slap decals on ur car. nice. but not all that...

woodnotes
12/06/09 @ 21:14
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milky_09 lol
redstanza
12/06/09 @ 21:17
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gt has what?

if your on about prologue it has fuck all.

if your gonna compare then do it with something that is out, not just on a promise

lol i'm gonna have to edit here cos i just burst out laffin

ps3 nobs was comparing gt5 to forza 2, now they comparing gt5 to forza 3 .. lol how far is this pipedream gonna take you nobheads
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LOLLERS
12/06/09 @ 21:23
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I'd rather just have the track and race on it for however long I want in daytime, than a simulated 24 hour cycle, it's a great track.

Looking forward to more great track announcements....

also, WRC, F1 and NASCAR misses the point of Forza a bit, it's more about GT and road racing cars done REALLY well, than having lots of gimmicks because you get bored easily.
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redstanza
12/06/09 @ 21:28
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i remember the rally mode in GT 3, or was it 4 ?

anyway, i remember how it was really crap compared to dedicated rally games such as CMR.

it just did nothing for what was an otherwise quality game.
CreepinJesus
12/06/09 @ 21:41
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After playing this circuit on GRID I understand now why it's such a tough race... it's the most boring track I've ever raced on.
redstanza
12/06/09 @ 21:44
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donnington was boring on grid.
maybe its just grids circuits that a crap and lifeless compared to how they could be.

nice 'game' though :/
jonarob
12/06/09 @ 21:56
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Who said GT5 is going to have F1? Don't Codebastards have the rights?
CHAZBIGPOTATO
12/06/09 @ 22:21
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A sphincter says what?
Widge
12/06/09 @ 22:37
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something stuff belgium lol moo moo moo? lol!
Machiavellian
12/06/09 @ 23:10
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Forza will have F1 cars and probably some tracks since there where some screens released showing F1 cars in the game. They looked absolutely great (even though they could be just bull shots)
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dylman
12/06/09 @ 23:21
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Bathurst! Please. :)
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13/06/09 @ 02:00
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Borza
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13/06/09 @ 04:34
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@ steoc4:

I thought that GRID was the first game to feature Le Mans in ten years?

Or at least, that's what Codemaster's PR people would have you believe anyway...
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13/06/09 @ 06:45
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NASCAR is boring IMO, racing around loops with no right hand bend is not my idea of fun at all

I'm sure Daytona has an alternate course to it, that has some nasty right turns.

The Nascar liscence is all about trying to appeal to the American market, because for GT in terms of sales Europe and Japan are king, so it's no surprise PD wants to expand on their market.
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13/06/09 @ 08:32
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It's all about the TopGear track these days, that makes a definative racer.
PlaysK
13/06/09 @ 08:34
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100 RACE cars in Forza Motorsport 3 :)
300 production cars.
More than 100 tracks.

and my 80 euros for this one.

As for the Race cars, believe me, that is from the original press article, so ... :)
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Raziel
13/06/09 @ 08:44
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@BBIAJ

Gran Turismo 4 already did Le Mans, including the track, the cars and the actual 24 hour race.
squarejawhero
13/06/09 @ 08:48
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Man this comment section is absolutely full of utter cunts.
El-Dev
13/06/09 @ 09:23
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squarejawhero, takes one to know one(or several as you see it).
dirk_aircool
13/06/09 @ 10:22
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Squarejawhero .
I agree. but at least they are not arguing about spelling and grammar . they are arguing and having opinions on a game they havent played and have only seen brief video's of . only on eurogamer .

teamxbox.com have a picture of a porsche steering wheel controller in the pictures of Forza 3 . for anyone thats interested in the game .
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13/06/09 @ 10:50
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The steering wheel that's being mentioned is the Fanatec 911 Turbo S wheel. Compatible with the 360, PC and PS3... but not cheap (or even close to being cheap): http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=...
MMJoe
13/06/09 @ 10:54
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Milky_09 - you're bringing shame to the Milky Moniker.
dirk_aircool
13/06/09 @ 12:39
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Psychotext

Thanks . I'll have a look at that it looks pretty cool .
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13/06/09 @ 13:43
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yeah, that Fanetic steering wheel is nowhere in the atmosphere of being cheap. But it's still a great looking wheel none the less....
zabeu
13/06/09 @ 16:29
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It's La Sarthe, not Le, Miss Purchese.
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13/06/09 @ 16:35
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There'll be oval racing apparently, so there will be some 'racing round loops with no right turn' action... hopefully not too much though.

Personally I think this is shaping up to be quite an exciting release.... I never really liked any 'sim' racing games prior to Forza 2 but I loved that, mainly due to the fact that they seem to have got the physics right enough to make driving something approaching a 'physical' experience. Maybe I'm easy to please but a few more tracks, upgraded graphics and a cockpit view would be more than enough to satisfy me. The upgrades to the driver AI look good as well.
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13/06/09 @ 18:02
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There is only ONE wheel, The G25

I love my G25, but the new Fanatec 911 wheel betters it, and a version is being released for the 360.
dirk_aircool
13/06/09 @ 22:14
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got nascar 09 for £10-00 today . its great . yes you do turn left a lot but your doing it at 170mph+ inches from cars all around . great game .
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14/06/09 @ 00:51
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Reading this thread is hilarious. Neither FM3 or GT5 is out yet comparisons are already being made.

Tres amusant.
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14/06/09 @ 01:53
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Nascar and the Indy series are both considered a joke outside of America. In my eyes the best motorsport is F1 and at the minute the best F1 game is F1 Championship Edition, most of the criticism of it is that it's too much of a sim unless you drive a F1 car which most people haven't had a chance to do.

What amuses me the most about this entire situation is that we have an American company(Turn 10) talking about how their racing sim is the "definative" racing sim. Considering the Yanks have only made one car that knows what a corner is(the 'Vette Z01") as well as the whole GMC situation(Yanks have bought Japanese cars for years as they are much better),it's pretty funny they think they know how to make the best racing sim. Japan(Polophony Digital) and Europe(the old Studio Liverpool F1 games) have the most racing pedigree. A lot of older F1 drivers cut their teeth in Japanese series and the European F3000/Formula Renault.

I hope Forza3 is a great game that I will enjoy but for me GT is still the best about, GT4 took hours from my life and I really enjoyed GT5P as a glimpse of what was to come. For me damage isn't a big deal because a racing sim shouldn't be about damage, it's about racing. Yes the AI in the previous GT's was a bit robotic and weren't the greatest at over taking, but in racing the racing line is the most important thing and for those who have seen a race at a track they will know that it is almost robotic looking as the drivers keep completely to the line at all times.

Looks aren't everything in racing games but when you see how good GT5P looks it takes something spectacular to make you take notice and after playing the demo of Forza2(I've only had my 360 less than 2 weeks), I don't think Forza will take GT's crown.

My favourite racing game was F1 by Psygnosis, Mansell on a PS...awesome.
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@el-dev
therefore the germans and italians make the best racing games as they make the best cars and have a lot more racing pedigree i.e. Ferrari, Mercedes, Bugatti, Maserati, BMW.
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@El-Dev

I don't think I have seen so much drivel in one post...

Nascar and IRL considered a joke outside US? Only by ignorant people who don't know any better. Ususally the same people that think the best motorsport is F1. NASCAR is bit of an aquired taste to be fair, however it's not easy. It requires a lot of skill. Just look at Montoyas record there so far, adpating to Nascar has not been easy for him. Trouble with F1 is that it's missing the sport part of the equation.

at the minute the best F1 game is F1 Championship Edition, most of the criticism of it is that it's too much of a sim unless you drive a F1 car which most people haven't had a chance to do.

It's the best F1 game? Really? And to much of a sim, what the hell? It's no where near being a sim. The best modern time F1 game currently available is probably CTDP's F1 2006 mod for rFactor or maybe FSOne's 2008 mod. Although the GP 1979 mod is better than both.

I really enjoyed GT5P as a glimpse of what was to come.

What more of the same? GT4 HD? I hope GT5P is not a glimpse of what is to come. I hope there is much much more. I got very tired with GT5P pretty quickly, returning to rFactor and GTR:E after a few hours. From what I have read on sim sites Forza is shaping up much better than I thought it would be. Sadly I don't have a 360 anymore, although since starting iRacing I doubt Forza would appeal to me enough to pull me away from it anyway.

Yes the AI in the previous GT's was a bit robotic and weren't the greatest at over taking, but in racing the racing line is the most important thing and for those who have seen a race at a track they will know that it is almost robotic looking as the drivers keep completely to the line at all times.

Oh man, it just gets better. Yes the racing line is the fastest route around the circuit. However drivers do not completly ignore the other cars around them. If another car is on their inside the generally will not turn in on them. Unline GT's A.I. I don't think the AI in GT even pass each other ever. They go into what seems like some pre-programmed formation and stay that way, each car progressivly faster than the car behind it. Rather than providing competion, they just serve as something to get in your way. Instead of comparing GT to F1 (where due to the terrible areo rules passing is very hard), compare it to touring or gt cars where the racing is closer

Anyway you lost all credibility when you said a racing sim isn't about damage. Do you see the contradiction there? It isnt a simulation if doesn't simulate the important aspects of racing. One being not crashing and damaging your car! I hate that fanboy argument. It's 2009, there is NO excuse for not having damage in a game. One of the most important aspect of racing is "to finish first, first you have to finish". Where is that element in GT, it isnt threre. Without it a large part of the skill of racing is removed. When you can make a serious mistake and hit the wall, or another car, and keep on going as if nothing happened it's not a simulation, rather a bit of a joke.
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