Football Manager Live Comments by Kristan Reed

count me in

I feel suitably chastised now. :(

I'll have to just play it for myself I guess.

I was a bit "hmmm" about FM Live as well as I didn't like the thought of the so called "fantasy world" aspect of the game and no real world competition structure but once I actually played it I was hooked and have banned myself from playing it at work as I'll never get any work done. Some of the banter during matches is fantastic and just adds that little edge and will to win that you don't quite get from single player games.

I'm still raging at allowing my best player to go out of contract and losing him and that was six months ago :(

All I can say is that if you don't like the sound of it then try it. You might be surprised :)

Deadly. The power to manage your own league has me sold.

Any chance of this having voice chat support? Maybe not in the launch version but in updates?

Cannibal - it's certainly been discussed, but is unlikely to be in there for launch as we don't deem it a "key" feature. Long term, it's part of the plan, particularly if we end up doing versions for console(s) too.

Ugh! Someone put up a new main story! I'm sick of seeing Jose's ugly mug everytime I come on to EG! :-D

Agreed, we need a new main story on EG's home page! Preferably one about the 360 version of Tomb Raider Anniversary.

This does sound a lot like the old 'play-by-mail' games I used to enjoy as a kid. However, not having set divisions within game worlds (with promotion and relegation) does sound a little odd.
I don't understand how people are supposed to get excited about playing games in a world where there is little "structure". Having one league and one cup set up by SI and then relying on the users to generate the other leagues seems quite strange. Am I misreading this somehow?

First off - huge kudos to Miles for posting in this thread. More devs should take the plunge and do likewise.

Second off, while I potentially have the eyes of Mr Jacobson, I just wanted to ask something a bit off topic to you: has SI ever thought of doing sim games in areas outside sports? (I know I know, your company name sort of suggests that's a no.) I only ask because I'd give my right leg (or left, take your pick) for a Hollywood business sim created by craftsmen such as yourself. :)

With that, I leave the rest of you to debate things like football which I barely understand... ;)

This game sounds interesting, but it is not exactly what I would expect from an MMOFM game.

I wish it is something more in the line of:

You start the game creating your self ego in the game world, with pictures, name, etc.
Each character/manager in the game has stats. You can customise your character stats initially to some extent.
Then you are thrown into a pool of jobless managers where you have to find jobs from hundereds of low level clubs.
These clubs would be the ones playing in the lowest division of national leagues.
There are many leagues, from different countries, similar to the ones we have in real life.
Each season is played in a specific timescale, say 3 months. There are specific times/dates that all manager need to be available to attend the match.
If a manager is not available then an AI will take his place using the previously saved strategy.
As the player progress, his stats are also affected. If he is successful, he has a good manager rating that would allow him to find better club.
So ultimately, the player aim is to be able to secure jobs at a club of his choice and take the club to win high profile cup or premiership.

Sadly, the only developer that I think may have the ability and vision to do this has decided to create "just another fantasy footbal game".

Ah well, I wish I have the time and resources to make my own game.

Must agree with Hula 100%.

Im sure this will be cool but I wanted a game similar to the great SoccerSim.

Now-a-days, its easy to be able to set condidtions to matches in nearly any in-match scenario.

Bongo - not misreading, no. But, as an example, in the current alpha gameworld there are around 80 active managers, and dozens upon dozens of competitions. Plus those playing in the evenings have their own each night away from the "main" comps. Setting them up is really easy (and will be easier) so there certainly won't be a lack of competitive games, and it's way better than having to be online at 6pm on a Wednesday night to play your one fixture of the week, in our opinion.

WriterUK - it's not our expertese, so we would leave that for others really. We are happy to specialise, as we love the games that we make, so aren't looking to do other types of games in the genre non sports based.

Hula Hoops / Let's Go - if we were working on an MMO for the real hardcore FM fan, then I expect that is what it'd be like. However, it would have bugger all subscribers, and get shut down soon after launch (in my opinion). What we are trying to make is a game for all, and the first question we have been asked with everyone we've shown the game to is "how long til I can play a match". In your system, it would be hours. In our system, it's minutes.

You can, of course, do what you describe in FM either offline or online if you set up a league or join a clan....

Cheers for replying miles. I'm sure it will be cool and I will play it I just feel that the route your taking FM may not be the best route (IMO).

But hey, how can I argue with the guys who bring us the very best footie management game! I'm sure your get it right!

Well, it does sound interesting, certainly. I'm still not convinced that without a more concrete structure it will be compelling enough.
Your responses to Hula Hoops / Let's Go are interesting too. I strongly believe there is a middle ground between what you 'seem' to be doing, and the all-out multiplayer options available in the full FM release.
As Let's Go says though, you are the experts, and many games I've read about turn out to be far greater than they initially seem to me.
Good luck guys.

So, this is a cross between the Fantasy Premier League that I'm currently addicted to, due to beating my brother by around 20 points after a season behind him, and Football Manager that I'm addicted to due to just pulling off a Champions Cup/Premier League double?



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