First in-game MGS4 footage News

Let me be the first to say "meh".

It looks like a toned down FPS with a few gimmicks, and a disturbing amount of old man ass.

second to say meh.

Oh balls! I wanted to say Meh.

I usually only find the cut scenes dull but I have to say that presentation did nothing to get me remotely excited.

YOU FREAKS OF NATURE!

Then again I like MGS, looks more improved over 3 than I thought it would be.

i'll join the meh party

It looks good but also less and less like the MGS I loved and more like Splinter Cell meets Ghost Recon. I think alot will depend on the variety of levels and if they are all set in such a heavily combat-orientated environment like the one Hideo showed on this demo.

Are the Meh brigade 360 owners perchance?

To be, thats a reason to pre-order a PS3.

/me gets out credit card.

@Artemus - 360,PS3,Wii,PC,PSP owner here. I didnt really enjoy mgs3 all that much but I had high hopes that this one would get back on track. Some nice gimmicks such as hiding on the statue but it all looked a bit too fussy for me.

Looks crisp and clean and good animation, but apart from that it didn't look all that exciting. On a side note the AI seems very shit and not what I was expecting from the power of the cell, the oh so powerful cell.

Are you all crazy? That looked incredible, and I don't particularly like MGS.

As a demo of a game that cannot be done on any other hardware it failed.

As a demo of a fun game, I thought it did very well. Seemed like a lot of fun and that is what games are all about no? It actually had a nice sandbox feel to it.

PS3 fans shouldn't push this game as TEH R3AL NEXT GEN!!11 but as a good playing, slightly campy game IMHO. :)

Eh? If your talking about switching menus for camouflage like mgs3 the statue was a one off 99% percent of the time the octocam will auto switch for you.

"Are the Meh brigade 360 owners perchance? "

I have a sneaking (heh!) suspicion they are... MGS4 looks absolutely fantastic IMO :)

GameTrailers have a HD version of the video for people who have problems with EurogamerTV's tech :
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22702...

I thought weapon switching looked a bit fiddly - nice to hear camo switch is semi-auto. Overall I liked it though. I also like the slightly comical feel the MGS series has. Doesn't take itself too seriously, remembers it is a game and benefits from it. I've gone from meh to looking forward to it now.

As for "Are the Meh brigade 360 owners perchance?" ... clicking on the names and recent forum activity is very telling.

I am a 360 owner and I stand by the Meh.
I will buy a PS3 when the time is right, I own a PS1/2 PSP and just bought the NW-A 806 MP3 so you cannot claim I am anti Sony.

Looks 5 times better than GoW and the 360 version would look worse?!?

Sod off

"I'm a 360 owner and I hope it does come to 360, looks 5 times better than gears of war and 10x more fun. "

Classic comedy.

No Dizzy classic comedy is the fact that GeoW is now coming to PC & MAC making the 360 essentially redundant :)

On a side note the AI seems very shit and not what I was expecting from the power of the cell, the oh so powerful cell.

This pisses me off especially the trollish kind.

Never take the AI on a public demonstration face value, NEVER the last thing the demonstrator would want is for a 15 minute demo to be stretched to an hour because he keeps getting pwned by the Ai it wouldn't make much of demonstration at all and would be very boring to watch because then the demonstrator would have to try and complete the level instead of showing all the features of the game.

People said the exact same damn thing with God of War II, Heavenly Sword and Killzone (off the top of my head), sometimes I just want to smash the internet with my bare hands.

It looks good, very good in fact, just not mind blowing. It's definitely one for the MGS fans.

I'm sure if this wasn't MGS4 but a game from another dev inspired by MGS, few would be really excited by that gameplay footage. In otherwords, you wouldn't look at this gameplay footage and say "OMG, I can't wait to play this game", unless you're already a MGS fan.

And I'm still not sold on the whole camouflage idea..."Hey look at me...or not, I'm invisible, despite the fact that from where you're standing, my camouflage doesn't match the background, and there's a great big shadow underneath me".

Yeah I know, it's only a game. :P

"Gow is crap, looks crap, plays crap".

Here come the PS3 morons, these are the people who still believe Sony's BS about the PS3's power, wake up people and open your eyes.

@Negotiator
Lavalant claims to own a 360.

And I'm still not sold on the whole camouflage idea..."Hey look at me...or not, I'm invisible, despite the fact that from where you're standing, my camouflage doesn't match the background, and there's a great big shadow underneath me".

*ahem*
To paraphrase someone from Neogaf.

Sam Fisher is stealthy with glow in the dark goggles. :O)

I don't own a 360 - I'm one of the (few?) who do not own a new-gen console at all. There's still way too much good stuff on my trusty Cube and PS2 that I'm determined to play, but haven't had the chance to yet. Most of which looks significantly more exciting than MGS4.

I thought it looked shit. Stupid stealth mechanics that are exactly the same as they have been since PSone. Lying on the floor in plain sight while a guard walks past is complete rubbish in my book. Lying on the floor humping a guard to suffocate him, also pants. Hiding in a barrel rubbish, just like hiding under a card board box was shit. And for gods sake when are we going to get games that don't enhance the idea that the only people who play them are sad men with no friends. Reading porn mags to get health back? Pathetic. And the fiddly menu's look as annoying as ever. I don't get the Metal Gear Solid craze. They are always treated as though they are the pinacle of game storytelling but they just seem pretentious and unneccesarily convoluted.

Graphically it looks nice though I am not blown away by it. Maybe its just the art direction rather than the graphical quality. Animation is as great as ever though. However Snake's sneaking crouch is utter jizz.

Still waiting for a game to make me buy a ps3. Of course there will be loads fof amazing games for it but certainly not yet.

Sam Fisher is stealthy with glow in the dark goggles.

FYI they are nightvision goggles which are used by the military so its appropriate to have it in the game. Active camo, not so much.

"No Dizzy classic comedy is the fact that GeoW is now coming to PC & MAC making the 360 essentially redundant :) "

Strange I seem to remember playing this game one year ago???

Maybe you should wait for a PS4 before buying any PS3 games.. you know you can get them cheap like that.

>Lavalant claims to own a 360.

Who? :)

Not impressesed by most of that, but I'm betting it's going to be a great game. If it's the best MGS ever I will get a PS3.

"Sam Fisher is stealthy with glow in the dark goggles. :O)"

Except the real goggles don't glow in the dark like that, except perhaps to others using night vision goggles themselves. It's really just an aesthetic choice, probably there for Sam to stand out on screen even when in complete darkness, hence helping the player. Therefore I can forgive Splinter Cell on that point. :)

"As a demo of a game that cannot be done on any other hardware it failed...PS3 fans shouldn't push this game as TEH R3AL NEXT GEN!!11 but as a good playing, slightly campy game IMHO."

That could quite easily be put in a GoW thread and still be relevant, after changing PS3 to 360 of course. In fact, it could be placed in almost any so called next gen thread. In other words, it's a pointless, troll worthy comment.

A bit like this one really.

As for the game, I think it looks much improved over previous MGS titles. I got bored of them after 2, in fact during 2. Doesn't look as restricted in both environment or controls. AI looked a little too dumb/blind in places though, even for a public demo.

Actually does look quite good, and if I had a PS3/game comes to 360 (@lavalant Kojima-sama did say that there would be no problem running it on the 360) I'd get it.

That said it does look bloody gimicky: Piss about in the menu and put on a costume to make you look like a statue, then climb onto a ledge and pretend to be a statue -just crouch behind the wall ffs. Get in a barrell (after p-ing abot in the menu) and roll over some enemies - just shoot them after hiding behind the barrell that's already there. Send a stupid droid over to some enemies with there backs to you - again shoot them or you know sneak up behind them. Hit some one with an electric knife - just grab them. Look at some pretty tame but derogitary pictures - play the game.

Aside from that it looks pretty fun, but we don't know how strong the AI is as the demo was obviously scripted, and I hope we won't have to have such an intermate knowledge of what's going to happen next as the player to enjoy it.

FYI they are nightvision goggles which are used by the military so its appropriate to have it in the game. Active camo, not so much.

MGS4 is based in the future Hideo can make hyper realistic weapons if he wants to, and you never know man, you never know

I don't know, being able to sneak right up in front of a soldier in Splinter Cell, without him noticing you, yet when you attack he suddenly notices the floating lights what's up with that?

This has been the stigma between MGS and SC, one goes for realism, the other... doesn't even try.

@Rex.

Those 'gimmicks' are exactly what I love about MGS.

"That could quite easily be put in a GoW thread and still be relevant, after changing PS3 to 360 of course."

Probably yes... I don't think anybody ever claimed that GoW would not be do able on other hardware and, at the time, it really upped the ante in graphical detail. A level that most games now seem to have reached.

wtf? old man looking through some porn mags to heal himself?
also the ai is dumb, not hearing a barrel rolling behind them?

@Artemus

It's those things which annoy me about MGS, though at least you don't have to do them, or just do them occasionly for a laugh. Unlike the bloody look on the back of the CD and break the fourth wall shinanigans of MGS1.

Also has anyone else noticed that the game doesn't look as impresive in first person mode? I think the animations and details of Snake are what make this game stand out, which is a shame because staring at his wrincley arse makes me wish I was as blind as the PFC soldiers.

Noxious cutscenes, check. Masturbatory writing, check. FUCKING STEALTH, check. Tortured control schemes, and an almost arbitrary emphasis on realism at times, check.

Everything I despise in modern videogaming.

Looked fucking ace to me.

THANK FUCK!! They got rid of the STUPID isometric camera!!

Can't wait for this.

Aww fucking sweet, you can use FPS controls too. I swear, anyone who takes issue with this is either plain fucking jealous or needs another hobby. Fact.

@Gene He's probably put the game on very easy, sounds like European Extreme difficulty is just for you.

While you PS3 drones are waiting for this pile of crud to arrive I'll be playing the greatest game ever made, HALO 3(so good it deserves caps letters). September 25 and 26 the world will stop, humans will unite in one big love ball to hail the return of the cheif and believe that god does exist.

@Negotiator

"I'll be playing the greatest game ever made, HALO 3"

I'm soooo happy for you, no really, I'm really so happy for you.

Anyway, getting back to MGS4....

im hoping none of the people criticising it because its gimicky are wii owners

@Negotiator

"I'll be playing the greatest game ever made, HALO 3"

I'm soooo happy for you, no really, I'm really so happy for you.

Why thank you my friend, I'll make sure you get to see the men in the white coats because you clearly don't know when someone is joking.

"Why thank you my friend, I'll make sure you get to see the men in the white coats because you clearly don't know when someone is joking."

And you clearly don't understand sarcasm when someone replies to your 'joke'.

So, once again, back to MGS4...

Meh x10. Statue p***s grabbing, asscrack-showing, magic weapons out of thin air, stupid AI (hey, this manshaped pice of floor cant be nothing of interest for me, a trained soldier).

I own a PS3 btw. And 360. and Wii. And high end PC.

To delve into this deeper MGS's AI has always been this dumb on easy on MGS 3 they're practically blind, on European Extreme you can't so much as sneeze without someone suspecting you.

You also can't mess around with the soldiers as Kojima did on the higher difficulties although would be interesting to see how the soldiers react when they're disarmed and you let them go.

Hope this has full body awareness that Killzone displayed.