Final Fantasy XIII: How Will It Work on 360? Comments by Richard Leadbetter

Guessimate, this article and people contributions to the post, is all just suppositions based on an education guesses.

Sure makes lots of sense that PS3 will have advantage of BD, but AA advantages and frames rate more usually go to the X360. Still as a lots of FMV will be involved.....so would seem PS3 will edge X360 slightly.

Simply put, I would put nothing in stock until we have actual games and EG head-to-head tm machine been put to work!

EDIT: And a proper grounded up PC version would destroys PS3 and X360 from a great height! Still not meaning that I would play on PC version as would always rather the comfy and lazy way of playing the console game on console anyway!

Looking forward to more articles like this!

Some of us just love to know about this sort technical details, I wish EG would do a series of articles on "current-gen technologies" and give some good explanations and videos about effects like HDR, depth of field and so on.

Most people couldn't care less, but hell, some of us actually enjoy technology.

@Bigglesworth

Have they 100% confirmed they're including it now? Because I read the IGN interview as them angling towards just doing English with both versions.
I hope we do get the Japanese track. Square-Enix do good English dubs (Dragon Quest VIII's was awesome) but the original's the original. Tempted to go for the import anyway.

Very interesting.

I do hope that MS are allowing for multi disc games to be installed to HDD, with only one disc required to be left in the drive to play.

No need to force any disc swaps if they only demand that disc 1 stays in the drive.

Errr... why is this game being picked apart before it has even been fully reviewed? this is almost certain to be a groundbreaking game in the way FFVII was when it hit PS1.

I forsee a 10/10 score regardless of all this minor nit picking.

ps. it's sure to be smoother on the 360, which is ludicrous considering that this is one of the games that the PS3 was made for.

I really enjoy these articles. That's just the kind of stuff I'd write if I had access to expensive equipment. Please keep them coming.

I usually don't enjoy the comments sections attached to them, though.

i'd prefer 60fps though :(

i'd prefer 60fps though :(

Build/Buy a good PC.

@R Leadbetter: Loving the concept behind this feature! Need more of this stuff.

I would love a PC version that could run ok on a 8600GT! Portable FFXIII would be ace.

I stuck the Last Remnant demo on and that ran godawfully.

Useless article in my opinion, a really really old build, and eurogamer already suggesting that 360 version could even be better, just LOL

"ps. it's sure to be smoother on the 360, which is ludicrous considering that this is one of the games that the PS3 was made for."

srsly just lol

Come on, boys, seriously.
Someone actually puts a lot of effort behind two twings, which is:

1. There WILL be Final Fantasy XIII on 360
2. The demo (whichever build it was) is available already on PlayStation 3

So the article is examining how it will be / Should be done. Interesting read.
But you have to come in, and say "fanboy" and "wishful thinking" and "omg,it is an old build! It cant be done better on 360!". Really?

Is this the same Richard Leadbetter of Mean Machines fame? The one who was said to sport a "council cut" in one of MM's editorials back in the early 90s?

If so, say hello to Jaz and Rad for me!

"Square have already released quite a few 360 games, so they must know what they're doing or going to do. "

Haha, played those said games, have you?

Technical failures, they are. Square clearly have no idea how to use 360 technology, so it' just as well FFXIII is a port.

And I didn't read this article; I like Final Fantasy, and I think FFXIII looks phenomenal, but I dislike Leadbetter: "Let's get one thing straight, no matter which console you buy it on, GTA IV is 10/10." Hahaha, moron. Go back to bed.

But yeah, anyone who thinks GTA IV is a 10/10 game is irrelevant. Move along chaps.

R Leadbetter, you owe me a VF3 book from my star letter in SSM, you bastard.

the only thing that bothered me was all the speculation. I thought (reading the title of the article) it was *actually* going to reveal some factual information that we didn't know explaining the problems of the port and how Square were working around them, otherwise it was a pretty fine article.

@firefly
Have they 100% confirmed they're including it now? Because I read the IGN interview as them angling towards just doing English with both versions.

To be honest I was just referring to the news item that showed up bemoaning the 360 version. Having now actually looked at the source interview on IGN I can see you're right: Kitase says quite unambiguously that they're not planning on providing the Japanese voices outside of Japan.

Its got to be said, of all the big Japanese developers SE seem to be really suffering this generation.

Being honest, Last Remnant was a complete clusterfuck. Its only playable on 360 because MS introduced their installation feature making it playable, and lets not ask what happened to the PS3 version of it...

Tri-Ace is a separate team, and they never were technically that adept so its not surprising their 360 product hasn't been stunning.

I'm sure FFXIII will look good, but I'm not expecting to be wowed technically. Which isn't to say I dont have high hopes for it as a game, just that the signs aren't pointing at it being a coding showcase.

They will employ a complex system of levers and pulleys, combined with the redbull tripping hamsters in the wheel.

It's interesting how fps and refresh rates and lighting effects are now debated in the console world, it used to be the realm of PC players tweaking games 'Video' settings to get a game playable and looking nice, console games just, well, worked and we accepted them.

hi

@Crofto, "But yeah, anyone who thinks GTA IV is a 10/10 game is irrelevant. Move along chaps."

GTAIV is one of the best games I have played. In fact, I'm still playing it.

Go figure.

I viewed your videos and read the 'Buzz' word comments that went along with them....

Chr!st almighty, when are you people going to stop over analysing the technical aspects of games. Especially when comparing the two current generation of consoles, enough already!!

I couldn't believe what I was reading during the videos though, I mean, who stops to analyse partical effects when your playing a game? or whether the resolution of self shadowing and lighting when both characters are on screen cause a FPS drop??!
How do you know?? for all you know, it could be an object in the background that it slighty higher poly than it should be in that shot!

A FPS performance bar does not always reflect what is happening on the screen, believe it or not, there are other things going on in the back ground...

Please don't think that just because SQE were stupid enough to give you a build with a perforance analyser on it that you are now the gods of what effects the performance of a game. Your not, no one person is!

It takes a team of highly skilled individuals to bring these games to the self, if it was as easy as just running an FPS analyser and looking at where it slows down, anyone could increase the FPS!! they can't! if they could, they'd be doing it, not talking about it!

Now be quiet about performance, and do what you are supposed to be doing, telling us about the game!!!

:/
Ikari

@IkariW
You've misunderstood the nature of how the information is obtained, and its actually worse than you think. It's not that they have a build with a performance analyser, they're using an external frame grabber and studying the output from that.

In general though I agree with you: as 'technical analysis', Richard Leadbetter's articles are dubious at best.

I have to say, I didn't even notice the framerate drops even when there was a gauge on screen telling me it was happening!

This really looks incredible. The amount of work that has gone into the character and enemy designs and the way they move and 'act' is just amazing. Even on the people that are just minor characters in the background. I still don't think any other JRPG can touch FF.

Oh, nice soundtrack as well. Very reminiscent of both Unlimited Saga and FFX.

Next question now : How will it work on Wii ? ;)

Wow, now EG is prepared to declare the 360 has the best graphics when that version of the game doesn't even exist yet!

FUGGIN' AWEZUM WERK GYZE!!

"Wow, now EG is prepared to declare the 360 has the best graphics when that version of the game doesn't even exist yet!

FUGGIN' AWEZUM WERK GYZE!! "

Did anybody else read that as SDF setup early defence?

I like speculative fiction as much as the next guy, just not when it's billed as analysis.

If this article's piling of guess-work upon supposition upon assumption upon speculation represents a delusion you feel the need to protect, feel free to hit the ignore button, I only come to EG every few months to remind myself why I only come to EG every few months. That would be down to articles like this, and commenters like you.

Build/Buy a good PC.

I have a fine PC. I can't see what relevance that has to FFXIII.

farticus"fuckwit"maximus

hahah OMG you actually post on 360 forums as well as PS3 ones (despite the fact you are jealous not to own one).

Even in your own 360 fanboy page you still have to slag off the PS3. You really are histerical haha.

Sorry to everyone else - this isnt faboyism, i just have to actually see what this thick cunt actually says on a 360 page considering 99% of his ridiculous posts on on PS3 pages when he doesnt own one, nor know the first thing about them,

"Our guess? Such scenes will indeed be real-time on Xbox 360, saving gigabytes of data over the PS3 version with only minimal amounts of difference in the quality of the visuals."

If that happens I'll eat my left shoe.

Of course it would be waaaay too expensive to turn those FMV sequences into real-time rendered ones that still look acceptably close the pre-rendered movies while keeping loading times reasonably low.
A far better and more likely solution is that they just rely on having to spread across multiple discs anyway and perhaps compress a bit more and/or render to lower resolutions.

This article is already highly speculative, but that particular speculation was bordering on the silly IMHO.

"Next question now : How will it work on Wii ? ;) "
LOL, yeah I wonder how the remake will look like on the PS5 ;-)

"But yeah, anyone who thinks GTA IV is a 10/10 game is irrelevant. Move along chaps."

Some of us can actually accept that people have different opinions. It might be something you want to work on, but I guess that takes away the chance for you to hop in a thread and spew some bile.

Ah, it really wouldn't be a comments thread without Crofto telling us in his rather rude and forceful way which games we should be liking and which games we shouldn't. ;)

They should update this article now that we have the first footage of the 360 running the game at E3.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-...