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  • Blerk #1 9 years ago

    Mmm... pretty. And Chocobos! :-D

    Doesn't look that different to X though...

  • markypants #2 9 years ago

    Looks great.
    Can't see a huge leap in technology from these screen grabs, but to be honest since FFVII it doesn't seem to matter how good the graphics are, the game hasn't IMHO been up to scratch story wise.

    We will have to wait and see.

    ~Fish~

  • Blerk #3 9 years ago

    FFIX was excellent on both story and game fronts, but was ignored by many because of the fantasy setting. X had an excellent story but lacked a little in the execution. I'm hoping that XII will mix the best of 7, 9 and 10. :-)

  • Nemesis #4 9 years ago

    Nice. Can't wait to see the CG work on this one, always loved the Square stuff.

    How long we gotta wait?

  • Blerk #5 9 years ago

    Round about.... forever? Near as dammit, anyway. Bet we don't see this one before 2005.

  • renzo #6 9 years ago

    Bit silly making the male lead look so similar to Tidus. Hopefully it doesn't feel like FFX-3.

    At least the female lead looks a lot sexier. Hopefully she's not a goody two-shoes! :-)

  • Psi #7 9 years ago

    yeah how come we gotta wait so long after the bloody yanks!

  • Blerk #8 9 years ago

    Putting on those huge borders takes a long time, y'know!

  • renzo #9 9 years ago

    Yes, but will it have a 60Hz mode?

  • Killerbee #10 9 years ago

    Ashe is quite attractive. =)

    /curtains/

    /feels shame/

  • Zero Beat #11 9 years ago

    Vaan looks like a cherub for crying out loud. See how goofy he looks close up.

  • Nikanoru #12 9 years ago

    Is anybody else reminded of Star Wars episodes 1 and 2 when looking at the fourth screenshot and the last one?

    Also, I was really hoping they would break the popstar pretty boy trend when I looked at that early advertisement....but....

    Hell, why don't they just cut the bullshit and start making interactive hentai movies. You KNOW that's where they're headed.

  • valli #13 9 years ago

    Vaan is even more feminine than Raiden! What's up with Japanese character designers these days? Also, these 2 leads got to be related (maybe that's old news).

  • Zero Beat #14 9 years ago

    Incest. Now there's a plot direction for FFXII.

  • Scimarad #15 9 years ago

    The rendered version of Vaan doesn't look half as bad the painted version - And yes they do look related, but maybe that's just the style of the artist.

    Ooooh, can't wait!

    (by the way, all people who moan about Raiden in MGS II are OFFICIALLY dickheads and insecure in their sexuality - Okay maybe the last bit was stretching it...)

  • Kami #16 9 years ago

    Hmm... a little androgeny with the characters... typical.

    Still looks good tho.

  • centralperkin #17 9 years ago

    It doesn't come any better than the Final Fantasy Series, though it hasn't been the same since the day of VII and VIII. Though the graphics seen in X and XI online are obviously afar cry away from VII and VIII the narrative has done nothing but got worse! I don't know about other gamers, but isn't a game much better with a strong narative regardless of the graphics? Only time will tell whether XII will live up to the high standards laid before it.
    Edited by centralperkin at 19/11/03 @ 23:44

  • Daryoon #18 9 years ago

    You lot do realise that girly blokes (aka bishounen) are incredibly popular with young Japanese ladies? They're also becoming popular with the young lasses over in the West too, it seems.

    Notice how it's only males who complain about male protagonists being "too feminine"?

  • Fizzy #19 9 years ago

    This is what the world wouldve looked like in the year 2100 if the Nazi's had won. Seriously, why is everyone dressed like a cheap underage street crack ho?!?!?!

    Still, hopefully the gameplay makes up for art, looks good though.

  • nasanu #20 9 years ago

    If I did not know any better I'd swear that Square were American. What boring character designs...

    Give me Cloud back. Sure he was blond haired blue eyed too, but he was super deformed and really f'd up. Vaan will have one weapon and one single line of speech:

    weapon: surfboard
    speech: california dude!

  • renzo #21 9 years ago

    "NOTHING WILL EVER COME CLOSE TO Final Fantasy 7 (had to be said, didnt want to get your hopes up)"

    That's only been said about 12,294,983,756 times, but I never tire of hearing it. Thanx for that... whateveryournameis.

  • Thamuhacha #22 9 years ago

    > I'm hoping that XII will mix the best of 7, 9 and 10. :-)

    So we all agree that VIII was bobbins then?

    Loved 7. LOVED IT. 9 was also very, very good. Never played 10 (still haven't got around to actually buying a PS2 ...

  • Genome #23 9 years ago

    OK. It's another Final Fantasy fantasy rehash. I' guessing that the baddie nation (ie: the one you're not fighting for) will revive some sort of ancient evil that will prove to be the real enemy about mid-game?

    And I bet that the main character is a whiny bitch.

  • Zero Beat #24 9 years ago

    I like the look of a few things on the battle information. HP seems to be capped at 9999 once again (woohoo!), 999 Max MP are back and it looks like there's three status slots, which makes keeping track of what's wrong with your character a lot easier if each is limited to three ailments and they're not flashing around above the characters head.

    It'll be interesting to see how the game looks only using half as many polygons as FFX (Gamespot) looks like those spot shadows are back after the realtime ones in FFX-2. The shaky cam footage I've seen looks fantastic enough, especially the new magic eye candy.

  • Blerk #25 9 years ago

    Try "you're fuckin' dreaming time" instead and you might be closer to the mark.

  • WoodenSpoon #26 9 years ago

    I liked 8 actually.
    What was wrong with it?

    (Apart from the World Map)

  • Daryoon #27 9 years ago

    I prefered 6, 8 and 9 to 7 :p

  • Daryoon #28 9 years ago

    The cliche is that 7 is the most popular because, for a lot of people, it was their first Japanese RPG and so it came as a bit of a revelation to them. Before that, J-RPGs were rare in the West, the only ones ever being released in Europe being Secret of Mana, it's abysmal clone Secret of Evermore, and the Quintet trilogy (Soul Blazer, Illusion of Time and Terranigma). And they were all action RPGs too! FFVII may have been the first of its type in this country...?
    And the US only had FFI, FFIV and FFVI - neither of which gathered much mainstream appeal. When FFVII came out, with it's flashy CGI, everyone took notice. And even though many of the characters were obvious stereotypes or cliches, no one noticed because this was their first experience of the genre.

    And anyone who says VIII is the worst FF obviously hasn't played II...

  • Blerk #29 9 years ago

    My personal preference:
    VII, IX, VI, X, IV, VIII, V

    Not played I, II or III to any great length so I can't really comment on those. :-)

  • StixxUK #30 9 years ago

    Wow. It IS possible to make chocobos look like cool monsters.

    Love FF, but haven't played any except 6, 7 & 8 because I don't have a PS2. Even 2nd hand they seem to be a rip off.

  • Scimarad #31 9 years ago

    Vexx, please just..die, or something...

    As for the 8 debate, It's my favourite - dodgy romance or not...

  • WoodenSpoon #32 9 years ago

    We seem to have quite a tard gathering here.

  • WogBoi #33 9 years ago

    Umm, I could be WAY OFF here, but I always believed 'XI' came before 'XII'.

    I don't know where I got that stupid idea from. Anyone care to enlighten the innumerate?

  • Fizzy #34 9 years ago

    Thats it, please no more Final Fantasy news items or threads, really brings out the tards.

  • WoodenSpoon #35 9 years ago

    lol

    More FF features!
    They really bring out the tards!

    /waves at squallz

  • ghearoid #36 9 years ago

    um, VIII remains my favourite, probably because it was the first one i'd played - took me over a bloody year to finish it though, 120+ hours!

    erm.. i got lost so just wandered around fighting..

    though by the end my characters were so strong the final battle was loooong but pretty easy

    g

  • Fizzy #37 9 years ago

    edit - scratch it all, I dont want to get dragged into this. damn alcohol makes you type things.
    Edited by Fizzy at 23/11/03 @ 02:56

  • Scimarad #38 9 years ago

    Is this thread about FFXII?

  • Lutz #39 9 years ago

    Wil it have motorbokies in it?

  • Blerk #40 9 years ago

    Umm, I could be WAY OFF here, but I always believed 'XI' came before 'XII'.

    I doubt we'll ever see XI over here unless they really do decide to launch the PS2 HDD in Europe. I guess it depends on how it performs in the US.

  • Rahul #41 9 years ago

    ...

    I want a special Eurogamer feature comparing a FF story's intellectual level with that of its mainstream audience.

  • renzo #42 9 years ago

    To PAiN3 & PaIn3,

    The game you're describing is FFX-2. This thread is for FFXII.

  • renzo #43 9 years ago

    I never expected a Final Fantasy thread to deteriorate into such a cesspool for tards. Very disturbing.

  • BartonFink #44 9 years ago

    Whats occurring in here then?

    I thought it was a WWE thread for a minute.

  • Blerk #45 9 years ago

    It never fails to amaze me that some of the people who come into Final Fantasy threads can actually play the games, given that you have to be able to read English and follow complex storylines. Maybe they just skip the dialogue?

  • renzo #46 9 years ago

    This thread makes me feel dirty. I thought a reasonable amount of intelligence was required to play RPGs? Apparently not.

  • renzo #47 9 years ago

    I've got a name for your little game.

    Final Fantardsy: Advent Tards

  • Caid #48 9 years ago

    (In an attempt to bring more FFXII related discussion to this thread)

    Havn't Squares lead character(s) always been kind of bland? To my eyes the extras have always been the colourful ones. I can understand such a choice since Squenix would want as many as possible to be able to identify with the leads. Personally, I don't mind. I've played all FFs since IV and liked them all (in various degrees of course).

    The setup with the princess and the thief is surprisingly close to the FFIX plot background, but it could still turn out quite diffrently I suppose.

    I know it's immensly unlikely but I'm hoping the multiplayer combat system from FF:CC would spread to more of their games. Co-op multiplayer is great and it would give me and my wife a way of playing the game together instead of fighting for control of the PS2 whenever they release a new RPG.
    Edited by Caid at 26/11/03 @ 09:04

  • Blerk #49 9 years ago

    I'm hoping the multiplayer combat system from FF:CC would spread to more of their games

    Ugh! I'm hoping it doesn't!

    I generally get to play multiplayer games about once a year, for about an hour. And then it's usually a FPS. Getting someone to sit with me and co-op play a Final Fantasy game for 60+ hours would be absolutely impossible!

  • Lutz #50 9 years ago

    /revives Aeris with joint Limit Break from Sephiroth and Zack who are both in my party.

    /flies to the moon on the white chocobo to kill Onyx weapon.

  • renzo #51 9 years ago

    "if u can't unerstand the colex story pleaz pleaz pleazzz shut up stupid noobs SIGH!"

    What "Colex" story? Pleaz pleaz pleaz explain this "Colex" story to me.

  • Caid #52 9 years ago

    Blerk: If you don't intend to use it, what would it matter if FF supported a co-op multiplayer mode? I wasn't saying they should remove the single player mode.

    I think co-op is great and as it has started to catch on with the FPS genre, I'm hoping to see more of it in other. Metal Gear Solid (and II) would be an excellent co-op game, pretty much like Rainbow Six but more focused on stealth (a Death Match mode in Metal Gear would also be cool of course).

    Getting back to FFXII, I think the game as good potential. I've never played an Enix game before and hope to experience a bit of that company's influence in this game. Graphics seem good as usual (although top notch graphics is not particularly important in my book) and I have great expectations on the music (which is more important to me).

    The one thing I do worry about is the female lead. Square has often supplied good female extras (including Beatrix, Lulu and Yuffie) while the leads (with the possible exception of Tifa) have been weak and demure. I must admit I would feel kind of funny playing a girl, but since I gather girls would feel the same about playing a guy I guess it's not more than fair that the female lead should be heroic too.
    Edited by Caid at 26/11/03 @ 10:11

  • Blerk #53 9 years ago

    Blerk: If you don't intend to use it, what would it matter if FF supported a co-op multiplayer mode? I wasn't saying they should remove the single player mode.

    As long as it was an optional thingy then I would have no complaints whatsoever. The trouble is, the way they've done it in FF:CC has somewhat diluted the single-player game to the point that it doesn't look as though it'll be half as fun playing on your own. Which is a shame, 'cos I was really looking forward to it.

  • renzo #54 9 years ago

    "I've never played an Enix game before and hope to experience a bit of that company's influence in this game."

    I don't think Enix will have any influence on this game. Only Square staff will be working on it.

  • Caid #55 9 years ago

    "I don't think Enix will have any influence on this game. Only Square staff will be working on it. "

    One could always hope :)

    Still, there seems to be a lot of new talent on the team so the game might be a bit diffrent after all.

  • renzo #56 9 years ago

    I think a lot of the staff that worked on FF:Tactics Advance will be working on this. Some of them also worked on Vagrant Story (apparently), so we should see something a bit different from other FFs (hopefully).

  • WoodenSpoon #57 9 years ago

    Look everybody!

    Tardemon!

  • WoodenSpoon #58 9 years ago

    dd, Someone has to tell you...

    Square can't actually hear you ya know?

  • Daryoon #59 9 years ago

    It never fails to amaze me that some of the people who come into Final Fantasy threads can actually play the games, given that you have to be able to read English and follow complex storylines. Maybe they just skip the dialogue?

    One word: gameFAQs
    You think it's a coincidence it's populated by tards, and the most popular games there are FF?

  • Daryoon #60 8 years ago

    Awww, did it offend your masculinity?

  • Lu Bu #61 8 years ago

    Of course not, it's just when you start the game, but after when i progress in the game it's begun interesting. There a lot of actions, and the graphics is incredible. And my favorite character of the game is Rikku she's so damn good. And i have a question for ya, my friend told me''later in the game your gonna see Tidus it is true?
    Edited by Lu Bu at 05/02/04 @ 09:38

  • WoodenSpoon #62 8 years ago

    Yeah me too.

  • Razz #63 8 years ago

    It looks shit

  • valli #64 8 years ago

    FFLXIX will 0\X/N koz it will feature gay pr0n FMVs!

  • BLACKSHEEP #65 8 years ago

    EPIC fucking EPIC!!!!!!

  • aabyssx #66 8 years ago

    "FFLXIX will 0\X/N koz it will feature gay pr0n FMVs!"

    LOL

  • aabyssx #67 8 years ago

    BTW my order is 8, 10, 7, 10-2 ... 9

    BTW I am not happy about this half medival fantasy setting (I am simply bored of the traditional medival setting). The world of 10 or 7-8 was great. Why back to the boring schema?)

    BTW I am not happy about another ultra gay character. (I want Auron like characters!)

    But, the Nelo Angelo like very-very evil boss looks good. ;)

    Are there Moogles, too? :D

  • marilena #68 8 years ago

    I'm not usually an adept of tarding, but I just can't help it this time. It's fucking porn! Did you look at that girl's clothing (if it can be called that)? Come on! And then, honestly, how many of you have had girlfriends prettier than the game's male lead?

  • otto #69 8 years ago

    You've got a point. I've seen more masculine ladyboys.

  • valli #70 8 years ago

    I can see the ad tagline now: Make Vaan your bitch

  • OnlyMe #71 8 years ago

    I think it's pathetic how many thinks the new characters are so "gaaay" and so forth. Go to bed, you're all just a bunch of teenagers with an identitycrisis. So insecure of yourself.

    I think FFXII looks ace. Vaan looks okay. I loved FFVI-IX, didn't think X was as good, but not because of the characters, but because of the boring story and no world-map. And wasn't Tifa's boobs overly large? Nobody complained about that. I would rather have a girl with little clothing, than a girl with huge boobs in a Final Fantasy game. Huge boobs in a game characters really makes the girl look like a whore. Or a porn star or whatever. None of the new characters even look close to the sluttyness of Tifa.

  • Dizzy #72 8 years ago

    Hooray for cross dressers!

  • marilena #73 8 years ago

    Sorry to ruin your argument, but I'm 24 and feel completely secure about my sexuality. That doesn't mean I have to like boys that look like girls. Mind you, it doesn't mean you should dislike them, either. It's a fact of life: some people like certain things, others don't. There is no right and wrong here, it's a matter of taste and I, as a person that doesn't like boy-dolls have the right to express my opinion.

    It is worth mentioning that I never liked japanese RPG's, wich puts me outside of the game's target (that and the fact that I'm not a Japanese teenager; the "japanese school-girls love it" argument that comes up from time to time pisses me of. So what? Are young japanese girls the ultimate judges of taste?).

    Oh, and I definitly think this looks like porn. The girl might not have big breasts, but her skirt isn't exactly huge either.
    Edited by marilena at 05/05/04 @ 12:01

  • aabyssx #74 8 years ago

    "identitycrisis"

    I'm 26.

    edit: And I like Ashe. My problem is Vaan.
    Edited by aabyssx at 05/05/04 @ 12:11

  • OnlyMe #75 8 years ago

    Yah, I understand people have different tastes. But I'm just tired of all the "OMG, Vaan lookz like a girl, zo gay! He sucks, because I'm so 1337!" shit. And a lot of that stuff comes from teenagers who's afraid that so wants to be a real MAN. In other words, laughable. Teenagers can't be men, no matter what. And in my opinion, Vaan looks just like any other 17 year old I've seen. It's the clothing that's different, if he had different clothes, people wouldn't have complained. But clothing has always been strange in Final Fantasy. I didn't exactly find Squalls clothes very masculine either.

    And the teenagers today dress like idiots anyway, so why should Final Fantasy be any different?

  • marilena #76 8 years ago

    Where do you come from?

    And yes, I know they're not having sex in the pictures, but they do look like they're going to have a go at it pretty soon.

  • aabyssx #77 8 years ago

    "And the teenagers today dress like idiots anyway, so why should Final Fantasy be any different?"

    LOL - You have a point.

  • valli #78 8 years ago

    And in my opinion, Vaan looks just like any other 17 year old I've seen.

    Do you live in Androgynville?

  • otto #79 8 years ago

    I personally like Jap RPGs, but to say that their graphical style is a breath of fresh air compared to the huge-breasted scantily-clad barbarian pr0n fighter chick of western fantasy games is kind of missing the point. The Japanese style is at least as stereotypical and hackneyed as the western style, if you ask me. All characters look the same, the girls are ever so girly, the lead male is androgynous with stupid hair, and he'll have a tough sidekick and a cute animal sidekick. Don't get me wrong, I love that shit, but it's just as hackneyed.

  • marilena #80 8 years ago

    I don't know. You should ask one.

  • Daryoon #81 8 years ago

    Am I alone in being the only person who didn't think Vaan was a girl at first? Then again, I didn't think Kuja was a woman either, but these guys are nothing compared to some of the character designs in some anime/manga. Compared to them, Vaan looks like Mr T!

  • ruttyboy #82 8 years ago

    Shame they all have crap American accents eh Daryoon ;)

  • Daryoon #83 8 years ago

    Nah, the ones in The Heroic Legend of Arslan were brits :p

  • ruttyboy #84 8 years ago

    "What ho, shall we tally-forth and retrieve the fabled sword of which there has been so much talk in the village?"

    "Why yes, that's a splendid idea."

    etc. ;)

  • peejay #85 8 years ago

    why is it the more modern games. The blokes e.g Tidus are starting to look more and more like ladies

  • WoodenSpoon #86 8 years ago

    Well, He-man people went out in the 80s, with Arnie and co.

    Now is the era of the lady-boy!

  • Daryoon #87 8 years ago

    Like me!

  • valli #88 8 years ago

    *lol* good point WS!

    I actually liked the trailer for FFXII and consider buying it when it comes out. The characters in (J)RPGs play quite a major role in these games so I suppose that's where the bitching comes from.

    The "twist" they took with Yuna in FFX-2 is unforgettable too: "gee, let's rip most of her clothes off and stick two big automatics in her hands". Tomb Raider No. Whatever must've been released in Japan the week the character designers had their brainstorming sessions.

    I mostly play JRPGs for the battle systems so I'll shut up about the characters now.

  • aabyssx #89 8 years ago

    "I mostly play JRPGs for the battle systems"

    I prefer the story.
    ...but I used to ~max out the characters stats in most games. ;)

  • penhalion #90 8 years ago

    Oh gosh.....yawn......

    Played all the other FF games but, none come close to good old Cloud and Sephiroth. Even the final blow where you waited sweating for your overdrive guage to fill up as seth just stood there looking like he could kill you with one blow.

    That was inspired. No girl to rescue (she was long dead by this point) no romance to get in the way, just two bitter rivals and one final battle...glory or death were the only choices either of them had at that stage in the game.

    sigh.....FFXII just looks like another romance quest.

  • MikeD #91 8 years ago

    penhalion, there was still tifa, you know :-).



    And Barret, for the truly disturbed.

  • kalel #92 8 years ago

    LOL

  • Daryoon #93 8 years ago

    just two bitter rivals and one final battle...glory or death were the only choices either of them had at that stage in the game.

    Ah, but was that really Sephiroth in that last 'fight', or was it Jenova's conciousness attempting to gain dominace over her last remaining puppet? After all, the battle took place in Cloud's head...

  • Daryoon #94 8 years ago

    who the hell was ultimecia anyway (introducing the main badguy/woman at the end spoiled it) and the ending FMV was just confusing telling you next to nothing about what happens

    Uh, Ultimecia was there manipulating events from the beginning, and was first mentioned directly at the end of the second disc. And the ending was confusing?

    Oh well, if you think Ultimecia popped up out of nowhere, it's no surprise you had trouble understanding things. Why am I even wasting time with this thread anyway?

  • Tweakmonkey #95 8 years ago

    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles is my favourite. Multiplayer is so much fun, and the olde world setting is excellent.

  • Gippal #96 8 years ago

    I have to agree on that.

  • stormcr0wfleet #97 7 years ago

    why oh why dont they re-make final fantasy 7, but have everything realtime :).. they did it with rezi-evil and that was pretty good.

  • WulfBane #98 7 years ago

    Well Stormcrowfleet, your wish may come true in the form of a new game titled "CIRIS CORE":FFVII. Square is working on this game. It's not a remake but it's during FFVII.

    Here is an extract from IGN website:Described as an action RPG, this game becomes the fourth entry in the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" project which includes Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII for mobile, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children for DVD and Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus for PS2. Production is being overseen by Yoshinori Kitase, the director of the original Final Fantasy VII, with Hajime Tahata serving as director. Tahata and Kitase served similar roles on the development of Before Crisis. Character designs for the game are being handled by Square Enix superstar Tetsuya Nomura. (It's for the PSP and not PS2)

    Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII seems to be Zack, Cloud's buddy from his days with SOLDIER. In fact, the story seems to take place during that particular time period, pitting both Cloud and Zack against fledgling evil maniac Sephiroth. Tons of sword fighting ensues of course, with Cloud getting smacked around a bit by his old superior. But Zack is no slouch, and he takes on hordes of baddies despite overwhelming odds.


    As for FFXII, looks like this game will be released sometime in Q2, as far as the info I read from IGN. Square had spent a lot of time in developing this game and some of the in game architectures are from Europe or based on European designs of old. So you guys should be very flattered that you'll be getting to see some buildings resembling the ones next door.

    The game graphics are really good and you won't be seeing anymore random battles, only real time. Some of the ingame graphics do resemble some things from FFXI, we'll just have to wait and see.

    FFXII, is scheduled to be released in March 2006 in Japan. I hope they do a parrell import of the English version during the same time, in the US and Asia. Europe and UK always seems to get their games at some later dates after the dust as settled in the states and Asia.

    UPDATE:JAN 30 2006
    I got to play the demo, which comes bundled with DQVIII. The demo plays well and the battle system is a far cry from yesteryears. Game graphics - excellent. Can wait for the game to be released.
    Edited by WulfBane at 29/01/06 @ 17:41

  • haowan #99 6 years ago

    lol

  • Bunda #100 6 years ago

    There's a lot of pics of the same people. Hmm.