Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas Comments by Dave McCarthy

I notice the PS3 comment there and I have to say that I take offense. What is that? An insinuation that the PS3 will NOT be released over here in march 2007?


Sounds like a good multiplayer game. However as you all know, the rainbow six games are supposed to be played ONLY in coop. Yep.

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/changes outfit to tank armour
/can't move

Sooo looking forward to this.

More than GoW actually. :/

Yes, I think we can all have faith in Sony by now.

Its a shame the multiplayer maps dont take the game to new areas. Would have been nice to have some more variety...

Btw, is there a weapon or item in MP like a personal shield or something? That really adds to team based gameplay. Big tanker in front with faster team mates taking cover behind him.

Definately saw a pistol and shield used during single player gameplay movie downloaded from Gametrailers.

Movie showed a running gun battle in the streets outside a casino.

"And because your character is persistent, you can unlock new equipment by advancing in rank (which you do by playing the game)."

I read this article twice, and again I seen them making the exact same mistakes they made with Lockdown.

Fuck you Ubi, R6 was one of my online gaming staples for 7 years.

This could just have the edge on GOW for me,

A demo is worth a thousand game videos epic.

The original had a great online community (and deadly) so I am looking forward to this. The problem is I am buying way too much 360 and PC games now :(

I'm waiting for this and forgetting about GoW, I know both will probally be worth buying but R6 is great with a bunch of mates and thats what the people i know are getting so many a co-op terroist hunts to come. Hopefully a GoW demo might make it out not too long after release to convince me to pick it up, until then they its R6

KD: co-op play online was my staple in Raven Shield, unfortunately Lockdown almost completely avoided it and Vegas doesnt seem to be improving on it much(if at all)

Does the multi component run on a different engine?

By the way, GoW stands for both God of War and Gears of War. So people, please clarify further the source of your giddiness in the future. ;-)

/fingers the 'Cancel Pre-Order' button for GoW...

/eyes up pre-order prices for R6, having enjoyed the demo yet again last night...

/considers selling Middle Earth and Table Tennis in order to fund both purchases

Why not interview the owner of digimask who did all the face mapping stuff? Its a UK company and damnit - interview the owner as he is a really nice bloke.

"The game features four-player online co-op in both the story mode and terrorist hunt mode. The co-op is perhaps Vegas' greatest feature and works beautifully."
I'll rant & rave about it when I get the full game and can set up my own server for it, until then I can only go on the videos, articles and forum impressions i read none of which are concrete.

@ ave

Its not much improvment at all past the graphics but whats important to me is on day of release i'll have 3 local mates to play online with :P All of us had raven shield (reinstalled that yesterday btw) and went on to R63 BA while avoiding Lockdown because of the bad press it had, unlike this one so far.

Just to see tho it uses the same engine as the singleplayer was a boost after GRAW dissapointing with the MP component it had, it was good and i still play it but it would be better if they did the MP engine the same as the single

I just hope they include wall-hug in R6 multiplayer instead of omitting it as they did with GRAW. Would make for some great tit-for-tat encounters!

Its in the multiplayer vid on that teamxbox site Rambaldi

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/...

AMERICA **** YEH! Huzzah more moreeeeeeeeeeeee terrorists and wmd to hunt0r!

I can't help but dislike the current trend that seems to have been started of having to unlock stuff for use in online multiplayer. Offline unlockable stuff fair enough, I actually like that (like in Timesplitters). But whether the unlockable stuff is still balanced or not, I just don't like it. Why can't they just stick to how it was before where all the online content was available from the off and that any extra offline content is to be unlocked by playing offline, like what was the case before the next gen?

And all comments about it still being fair to players who haven't unlocked everything are contradictory anyway:

"The game's lead designer Jean Pascal Cambiotti was, however, keen to stress that while you can unlock a greater range of tactical possibilities at higher ranks, you can't acquire an unfair advantage."

and

"You're unlocking different weapons, different styles of weapons which have different rates of fire, different clip capacities, but everything balances itself out."

I'm sorry, but having more tactical possibilities and weapons that have different (more than likely better) rates of fire and clip capacities constitutes in my eyes an advantage to people who have these unlocked. So if you come up across someone who has more "tactical options" and has a gun which has a higher rate of fire and a higher clip capacity, surely you are going to be at an unfair disadvantage because you haven't unlocked them?

This is the main reason I really can't be arsed with SC:Double Agent online. 3 fucking maps you say? I have to play online and actually be good in order to unlock the rest? What if I ain't actually that bothered in leveling up my character by either raising my rank or by putting insane amounts of hours into the online portion because I only want to play for fun every so often?

I dunno, maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions and that there are not going to be any weapons that have a higher rate of fire or bigger clip capacity, and that it really isn't that big a deal when you come to play it, but something really doesn't sit right. Namely if everything is still fair, then why even bother locking the stuff in the first place. Shouldn't EVERYONE who payed for the game be equally entitled to everything on the disc in the online part?
Hopefully ALL the maps will already be unlocked in this game or have to be unlocked through playing the Campaign mode though, because the other things will not be enough to stop me playing it online, but if you have to unlock the maps only by being an elite online player or having the time to dedicate your entire life to the MP side of the game then Ubi can fuck off.

Sod talking about the game - the energy clinic - I know it, been there a few times myself. I can recommend their two person massage. Expensive, but very very good.

Do some reading at the Ubisoft forums. The most common complaint about the demo (by a truly giant margin) was frame rate. That was the place to make your opinions heard, Ubisoft actually asked for feedback.

They badly need to fix the frame rate, it chugs horribly as soon as the action starts - allegedly this was being worked on, but I'll not be buying until I've talked to someone who has played the final build. It seemed like it would be a good game, but the slowdown was bad enough that I just couldn't keep looking at it anymore.

Which is why me an so many of my mates appreciate Just Cause, frame rate is far better than most early 360 stuff, with a bit of motion blur to make up for the shortfall.

Think EA have alot to answer for, as they "seem" to be trying to make it acceptable, for crappy frame rates, Need for speed Carbon seems even worse than The first Need for Speed on 360; like they are trying to make it look better for stills than to actually play. Love 60 FPS an dont mind 30fps with decent motion blur i.e.PGR3 anything less, reminds me of playing on an under powered PC, but without the option of upgrading!

What's wrong with Pig's Spleen?

this 3rd person view im not liking - since playing the first Rainbow Six on xbox every subsequent Rainbow has been diluted to cater for the mass market (no skilled console gamers)

The biggest disapointment for me on the 360 has been the pretty crappy frame rates on a lot of titles. I now run over vga on my plasma and use 1024x768 to try and get reasonably smooth gameplay. 720p should be silky smooth. on a PC with the sort of card that is in the 360 it would be.

As another poster said they seam to be targeting screenshots over real gameplay value.

And for the love of god fix vsync. Microsoft should make it mandatory theat Vsync is on.

Changing the output resolution to 1024*768 wont get you better frame rates, the games are still internally rendered at 720p, or 1280*720.

And yeah vegas chugs quite frequently, too frequently actually, but still from the demo i get nothing but high hopes for this title.

"What's wrong with Pig's Spleen?"

The fact that it's Pig's Spleen?

The only real framerate problems I had were the ones in the helicopter and the 10fps I got when I entered a room when a grenade exploded and all 3 terrorists started shooting at me. I can live with the first one, as I'm not actually in any danger when that happens, but when I'm in a room full of enemies where my character actually runs the risk of dying, I'd like some control over what happens on-screen.

I'm pretty sure it will be fixed by release, so I'm buying this one.

I don't get the complaints about framerate, my demo ran silky smooth. 0_o

No it didn't - you just can't tell the difference, making you part of the problem. Enjoy.

sounds damn fun.

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Ah yes, you are absolutely right.

/wanders off