FFXIII retail-version changes detailed Comments by Robert Purchese
So what's different about the demo?
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23/04/09 @ 10:04
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I'm really not sure that making it 'the most difficult FF ever' is such a good idea.
This is a really crucial game for them, the first FF on the 360 and PS3, and the first 'real' FF on a Microsoft console ever. Putting off potential customers through difficulty is a bit of a bum move. There'll probably be a fair few who've never played a JRPG before, let alone an FF game looking to pick this up. If they find it impossible they won't stick with it. |
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Difficulty adds a bit of spice though, its fun going into a battle underpowered and scraping through using sheer grit and determination! Take the weapon fights in FFVII. Ultimate and Ruby where such utter bastards but beating the fuckers using a bit of skill and a lot of patience was an awesome experience.
Had a lot of fun with Zeromus in FFXII too, took me around 4 hours to destroy that son-of-a-bitch when i was totally under-levelled. The satisfaction of taking him down was amazing!
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Ninja_Tino
23/04/09 @ 10:27
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In many cases, a higher difficulty simply means more grinding! I'd much rather have multiple difficulties to avoid the pointless hours.
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kinky_mong
23/04/09 @ 10:29
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Putting off potential customers through difficulty is a bit of a bum move.
Has definitely put me off. I'm not a fan of turn based combat anyway so the thought of having to constantly re-do fights to the point of frustration is a big turn off. Same reason I can't be bothered to carry on playing Chrono Trigger to see what the fuss over it is. |
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@Buztafen
But that’s exactly what i meant when i said "optional fights". I'm all for those being difficult. But what i don't want is the difficulty to increase so much that you keep hitting hurdles during the main story where you have to grind for a few hours in order to overpower your characters in order to pass... Because that’s just artificially extending the game for the sake of it... XII suffered a bit from this. And I’m not just talking those fights where you can muddle through and use a bit of skill to just make it through (those are fun). I’m talking those times where you go into a fight and getting your whole party wiped out on the first attack even though your current level was evenly-matched for the area you were in. |
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@ZuluHero: you should never need to grind for "a few hours" in any Final Fantasy unless you want to completely overwhelm the boss you're stuck on.
I think it's important to have a decent challenge, since you want to actually earn the next piece of storyline. Either way I can't see it being the hardest Final Fantasy ever. |
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Of the recent(ish) ff's, I found 9 the most challenging. enforced situations where you have no mages, little in the way of items at first and status effects that really have a dramatic impact on your team (poisoned etc in FF7? just finish the fight and its gone!).
I'm finding Eternal Sonata quite challenging but I believe I read that they upped the difficulty level when porting that across. All of a sudden, you can find yourself right under it in a fight, plus, once again, a limited set of items and a maximum you can take into battle too. |
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retr0gamer
23/04/09 @ 14:46
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No grinding please. FFX had it perfect, no grinding and boss battles you really had to use strategy for. I've beaten every FF game without grinding other than the first.
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Best not be too hard! The difficulty spikes in Kings Bounty were a bitch! There was also the fact that if your army got wiped out you had to go buy them again from the usually pretty limited army pools! Apart from priests which apparently ever fucker ordered 2,000 of them in! Looking forward to this. The FF FMVs are always pretty breathtaking even without HD!
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I didn't grind in FF7 and came unstuck against the demon wall. Totally whumped me. Plus no ability to get out and level up. Had to re-start. Gutting! Never made that mistake.
To get the max out of any FF, you have to grind. No way you can get 4xCut in FF7 without it, cash for chocobo training, FF8 to be strong to take on the Deep Sea Research Facility. 10 was fairly grindless, until you embark on populating the monster arena. FFX-2 was a bit different as it was a grind to play! FFXII's battle mechanic actually made grinding a passable way of life... almost compulsive yet strangely enjoyable. |
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@Widge
What demon wall in FF7? As for difficulty levels. I am so not grinding away at another FF game. I used to buy them for the story. This was a must buy for me until that idiotic "most difficult ever" statement. I'm now pretty sure I'll be giving this a miss. Yea it's a FF game but, lately the name hasn't meant the quality product that it used to. Playing the Jap demo simply confirmed that for me. It's all about the look now it seems. I guess the creator of FF leaving the company has hurt them in ways I didn't foresee. Story and atmosphere being one of those ways. This latest chapter is a FF7 remake in all but name and graphics as far as I can tell. Cloud being replaced, rather weakly by Lightning and Snow. Kind of like they are hedging their bets. If you don't like one you can play the other?!? |
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This is a really crucial game for them, the first FF on the 360 and PS3, and the first 'real' FF on a Microsoft console ever. Putting off potential customers through difficulty is a bit of a bum move
If the customer is anything like me, he or she won't buy this at all. I'm always very suspicious about games that have had a lot of releases. FF 13 sounds like ultra-über hardcore and that you should have played at least the previous 5 releases in order to get the gameplay. Same goes for Dynasty Warriors, Tekkens, Virtua Fighters, basicaly everything with more than four installments. That said, I will buy this of course. I loved FFVII.
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