Far Cry 2 Comments by Christian Donlan

Hmmm... Was looking forward to this, but jamming guns, malfunctioning cars and malaria don't really sound like a lot of fun.

The expansiveness of the game does appeal to me, but with Fallout 3 and Fable II to play looks like this one will have to wait until it hits the bargain bins sometime next year.

Btw to everyone complaining about DRM, the review is for the DRM-free X360 version, you whiners.

Oh do shut up HairyCrack(Wipeout is not true/full HD gimp).

LBP rocks it's fun.

How many PS3s do you have with no games again? Was it 2?

I am gonna do a Les/Hedbog an call you an Xbot moron!!!

@Hairy Crack

Were you fed with a slingshot as a child or did your foster parents just slide pizza and dover sole under the locked bedroom door? Also did it hurt when you banged your head falling into the abortion bucket?

There was no reason but fanboy retardedness for you to slag off LBP in this comments section, especially when you've no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway toooooo many good games in the space of a few weeks, fuck the credit crunch and get that wallet out.

This sounds really good two me. Definitely a day one purchase for me. Thanks for keeping my hopes up mikeck.

@Joker

+1

Have to agree with all the love being shown for Saints Row 2.

Never thought in a million Sundays I'd buy this, but the Eurogamer review persuaded me otherwise. Played it for a few hours and have already had more fun with it than the whole of GTA IV. Not that the latter was bad in anyway. It just wasn't, well, fun.

"Well, I have an (almost) zero tolerance policy to the business model of consoles, which makes PC DRM pale to insignificance in my opinion. It didn't help much yet"

Why not take a zero tolerance stance on both the business model of the console industry and the DRM used in the PC gaming industry and stop playing games altogether?

@ local_celebrity

Septic Avenger for the win

You get an activation back when you uninstall it, can ask for further activations should you need them, and they have already announced that they will remove it further down the line, or should they ever deactivate the servers. You can also install it at multiple PCs at once and don't need the disc, which is a significant improvement to disc-based copy protection, as far as I am concerned.

Fair enough to dicuss the DRM and complain about it, but let's not use hyperbole like "draconian" when they're obviously trying to find a compromise. A "zero tolerance" approach from both sides isn't going to help anybody

It doesn't matter what way they spin it, there is install limits and also the stealth install of securom, thats pretty draconian to me. I don't have zero tolerance for developers trying to protect their game. I just have zero tolerance for this kind of DRM especially when it does very, very little to stop piracy. In fact there is an argument it had the opposite effect when you look at Spore (not that I condone piracy). Maybe if there was no securom I could put up with the installation restrictions, but there is so no sale. Maybe I'll buy it when it's patched to remove all the crap.

Personally I'd rather have to stick the disc in the drive that put up with the DRM we are seeing at the moment.

wow, an 8 .. ive played this for a few hours and its just plain mediocre. Looks nice, plays boring,

The reviewer should mention DRM on the PC version.
I know it's a negative topic that you might want to avoid or maybe you're afraid to anger the publisher.
But
For a lot of customers this influences our buying decision since it affects the quality of the user experience.
If it wasn't mentioned in the comments I might have bought the game based on the review.

shit, I dont know wether to buy this or not. Loved FC on the PC, hated instincts on the xbox. it looks good, but the negative bits sound really negative. I do agree that the text doesnt really reflect the score.

sn3jk

According to the review that means you're playing it boringly.

"sn3jk

According to the review that means you're playing it boringly. "

I think he may be, my first few hours were great fun! :D Different strokes and all that though...

The very free roaming aspect that initially attracted me looks to be a double-edged sword - the idea of long periods of time travelling between the action without anything to do except pointless car fixing doesn't sound promising to me.
I think I'll wait until it drops in price.

No mention of the dodgy savepoint spacing on the 360 version then?

Reads like a 7/10 to me.

@UnlceLou

"You get an activation back when you uninstall it, can ask for further activations should you need them, and they have already announced that they will remove it further down the line, or should they ever deactivate the servers. You can also install it at multiple PCs at once and don't need the disc, which is a significant improvement to disc-based copy protection, as far as I am concerned."

What's your source for this statement? As far as I know, it's at least partially false. According to "Black_Widow9", a Ubi representative on the official forum, "If you own the disc version of FC2 it will have to be inserted the drive in order to play." So the CD-check seems to be present still.

As for announcing that they would remove the activation requirement at some point, there have been only vague assurances that we'd "always be able to play the game", but nothing concrete. That's not good enough for me.

"The very free roaming aspect that initially attracted me looks to be a double-edged sword - the idea of long periods of time travelling between the action without anything to do except pointless car fixing doesn't sound promising to me.
I think I'll wait until it drops in price. "

It never feels like you are far away from your next bout of gunfire though...whilst the checkpoints are well spaced apart, there are constant jeep patrols, convoys etc, and random huts, villages etc to stumble upon, where there will also be militita waiting to have a pop at you.

Also to whoever mentioned the free-roaming aspect meaning you can off-road your way round checkpoints, this is possible, however some checkpoints are well placed so this can still be quite tricky - but still plausible.

Sorry if I sound somewhat evangelical about this game, but I really think it's worth most people's time, I'm loving it so far.

@Mikeck

I appreciate your insight - maybe I should just give it a go as I really like the idea of approaching missions in different ways.

"What's your source for this statement? As far as I know, it's at least partially false. According to "Black_Widow9", a Ubi representative on the official forum, "If you own the disc version of FC2 it will have to be inserted the drive in order to play." So the CD-check seems to be present still. "

Hm, seriously? I googled it last night after Foo mentioned the DRM, and found an article on a major site (I don't remember which right now, I'll have a look) that referred to an official statement, and it said no disc is required.

Meh if it is required, I find having to have the disc in the drive a much bigger pain in the arse than online activation.

I suppose it might be that you don't need the disc in the drive for multiplayer? (Like CoD4)

8/10? But the Far Cry 2 adverts have been running all over the site!? This should be ten! Conspiracy!!!

Amazon.de confirms it: The disc is required in the drive to play. Makes the online activation seem pointless, doesn't it?

Indeed it does.

I don't know why publishers always go one step too far. A limited number of installs with a system that gives you back activations when you uninstall it and no disc required isn't too bad - loks like EA doesn't do the former, and Ubi doesn't do the latter.

TOMORROW! On the PC! God damn! This will rock.

@Ace_McCloud

this is a multiplatform game... so let's get the score right then ;)

10/10 on Xbox360
8/10 on PS3
5/10 on PC (DRM and all, but there are some idiots who still purchase it... ignorant? or ill informed

oh and the review reads more like a 7/10 to me... move along everyone.

@BlackThorned

No worries, I appreciate that some people may not enjoy the game, but as the scope in how you play the game really does depend on your preferred play-style, you may get something out of it - especially if you'd prefer to scout areas out and approach them in a more restrained manner - rather than guns blazing. You really can do most missions it seems (from what I've played anyway) in whatever way suits you.

A bit late to join in the discussion, I know, but does the appalling voice-over from one of the vids re-appear in the finished product ?

"5/10 on PC (DRM and all, but there are some idiots who still purchase it... ignorant? or ill informed"

If you want to take an idelogical stance on gaming and gamers' rights, you wouldn't have bought an entirely locked down, controlled by one company gaming system. Unless you were a complete idiot.

What kind of spastic mercenary goes to Africa without first getting a malaria jab?

HandOfBeadle

yes yes, might be that i was a bit impatient, fable2 was just around the corner ...

The review really didn't sell it to me. Seems like far too much grinding on unnecessary diversions to get malaria medicine and having to swap Jeeps all the time rather than getting on with the fun. I'm a bit fed up of games forcing you to do boring things like this to avoid a punishment (*cough* GTA4 *cough*).

I will get this for my PC once I have finished with warhead.

Suprised my PC still works with all this DRM... (yes that is sacastic)

so no indoor environments then?

I've just ordered the steelbook case version for the PC from Play.com... it's only £25 so I thought why not. I presume the PC version will have a quicksave option like every other FPS which should make it more enjoyable for me than if I'd bought it for the consoles, what with their erratic from what I've read auto-checkpointing system. It just remains to be seen how well the game runs on my PC at 1680x1050 as my specs fall half way between the minimum and recommended specs for the game.

If you want to take an idelogical stance on gaming and gamers' rights, you wouldn't have bought an entirely locked down, controlled by one company gaming system. Unless you were a complete idiot.

But, with said closed system I'm still in complete control of how many times I play the game. I know I can stick my game in any 360 in existance 1, 5, 10, 20 years from now and still play it with no problems. I'll never have to call anyone to ask if they will allow me to install the game again.

Well, that comment wasn't aimed at you, as I am sure you know! Good luck finding a working 360 in 10 years though! ;-)

I couldn't finish Boiling Point. I don't think I came anywhere close. I started to get in to it but the drudgery of driving around in a crappy car, changing tires and refilling the gas tank got the better of me. There's fun realism and then there's not fun realism.

@praetorian "What kind of spastic mercenary goes to Africa without first getting a malaria jab? "

there's no such thing as a malaria jab, you have to take a pill every day when you're there and all that does is make you receptive to further treatment if you actually do get malaria. you should probably try visiting africa before making statements like that! :(

It does seem rather negative for an 8, but does nobody else think, rather than "it reads like a 7", that it reads like "it should have been a 9 but they let themselves down by ballsing certain things up too much and I'm not happy"?

Looks from other reviews as though it's dividing opinions. I'm confident I'll fall on the positive side - STALKER was one of my favourite games of the past 5 years. I'm certainly expecting to like this more than Fallout 3 which isn't really tickling my funny bits and unless my opinion changes during my second stint with the Resistance 2 beta I'm almost definitely not getting that..

Mmm, not sure about this, the guns jamming and cars breaking down sound really irritating to me.I think I'll get Fable 2 tomorrow.

Skimmed through this and it got the usual score, question is, is this a high or low 8/10? ;)

This game should have been reviewed in PC, not in console shitty version.

a pleasure to read- very nice job christian

Why do people care so much about scores on games, on whether from the review its an 8 (in your opinion) or should be a 9 (in someone elses opinion). At the end of the day every bloomin reviewer will give all games differing opinions so instead of making minds up just do what i do - and play them ALL and make your mind up that way!

I am a VERY lucky guy in the sense my best mate owns a game shop - so I have played the lot today - first 2 in the shop which were, Fable 2 - ok I guess, not my type of game but can see why people will love it, Dead Space was amazing, but I had Far Cry 2, Midnight Club LA and Moto GP 08. Bin playing far Cry most of the day and Midnight Club most of the night and they are all great. Once I finish Far Cry 2 I will play through Dead Space but its too confusing with all the controls to play them both effectively at once for me! hahaha. I can see a few weeks being like this - where I cant decide on one so I'll just get the lot. Happy Christmas to myself! haha. I really should stop spending!

But stop goin on bout whether games scores are justified - they never are, they are never the same opinion as mine once played, and a review has and will never deter me from getting a game - after all, sometimes we just want something simple and uncomplicated and mind numbing which is always frowned upon - but sometimes Im in the mood for that. Cant play games like FC2 or Dead Space all the time - too serious. Just want somethin like good old Streets of Rage to relax with haha. Go try them all for yourselves and make your minds up - it would be a greater use of your time than debating whether scores are justified. Which reminds me, better get back to Midnight Club. Hurrah.

nice game, but fable is still better :o

Fable is better than Far Cry 2? WHy not compare say, Mario Smash Brothers Brawl to Flow? Fable and FC are 2 totally different games to say one is better. Obviously to adventrue game fans it will be - but if you cant stand adventure games and you like FPS - I wonder which is "the better game". haha. It's all just personal opinion. You may PREFER Fable 2, but is certainly is no better or worse - its too different

Beyond3d (quaz) reports ps3 version is running at a higher res than xb360 but why is it jaggier then?

Gah, another game with a messed up widescreen implementation! Just like BioShock before it was patched - this is "cropscreen" not "widescreen"

FAIL.