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Fallout man asks Blizzard for forgiveness News
PC News by Robert Purchese
Fallout 3 production director Ashley Cheng has asked for forgiveness from Blizzard for calling its StarCraft and Diablo updates "conservative".
In a post on his blog, Cheng said he was "disappointed" both games were less ambitious than he had hoped for.
"I must say I am disappointed that Blizzard has stayed on the conservative side in terms of design with their updates to Diablo and Starcraft," said Cheng.
"I have no doubt, however, that they will be incredibly fun, addictive and polished games. Blizzard is the top of the class when it comes to game development - nobody does it better."
Following a bit of Internet furore, Cheng has posted an update on the blog entry. "Dear Blizzard," it reads, "Please forgive me. XOXO, Ash". Poor old Ash.
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drunkymonkey
02/07/08 @ 11:30
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Haha. When you're making a game like Fallout 3, with the amount of criticism that has gotten...you don't criticise other developers updating popular RPGs.
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DanWhitehead
02/07/08 @ 11:33
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First treyarch for slagging off BIA then wimping out
Which isn't what happened. At all. |
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MouzerMalti
02/07/08 @ 11:48
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Which isn't what happened. At all.
Exactly Treyarch just said that COD5 is a shooter that should be compared to Gears, etc not to BiA which is a Tactical Shooter. Ubisoft got all sensitive and decided to suck up their arse. |
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Why the frak should some sad blizzard fans have made this guy change his opinion. I think that diablo 3 looks dated and that was indeed my first post on the subject (in the original thread). Clearly a lot of diablo fans and this guy all agree (the petition about the art style and general look and feel of the game). In the face of much agreement, it takes a very weak man to still change his opinion.
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He has got a point, I'm sure Diablo 3 will be fun - but it does look very conservative so far. How can it take so long to produce something that looks almost identical to Diablo 2?
And frankly Starcraft 2 looks even more dated - the Diablo series can get away with stagnating because its a pretty narrow sub-genre and nothing has ever really convincingly challenged Diablo 2 as master of it - but compared to various modern RTS games (like Company of Heroes or Dawn of War) and even some old ones (like Total Annihilation), Starcraft is now a bit of a dinosaur, and needs a real overhaul - not just a handful of new units and an updated engine. |
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So what? Constructive criticism isn't allowed now?
Oh sorry! I forgot we're on the internet... Clearly he is a BliZZARD HAT3RS!!!1 Starcraft is now a bit of a dinosaur, and needs a real overhaul - not just a handful of new units and an updated engine. Yeah, but look who the primary target audience is. Hardcore starcraft fans want more of the same. Thus there is Starcraft 2. |
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shamblemonkee
02/07/08 @ 12:43
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Blizzard have been about conservative design evolution coupled with the most polished gameplay and art pretty much form day one.
Why the screaming now? |
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Blizzard don't want to alienate their existing fanbase, so they're keeping the gameplay changes fairly minor.
I can see why Mr Cheng is a bit disappointed, but Blizzard are obviously wanting to play it safe, which is fairly understandable. Maybe when Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are on the shelves, they'll start working on a new property where creating more modern gameplay is a more sensible proposition from their point of view. Anyway, it's really up to people like Ashley Cheng to bring us something daring, and new with their reinvention of Fallout - they're going to be largely pitching this at a new audience so they can afford to be adventurous with gameplay decisions!
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kangarootoo
02/07/08 @ 13:01
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Well first off, he is right.
Secondly, can nobody see the sarcasm in his request for forgiveness? |
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kangarootoo
02/07/08 @ 13:02
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@Krelle
Dude, the film industry has sequels coming out of every pore! Mid-summer, half the releases at the cinea are sequels or franchise related. |
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krelle
what the fuck are you talking about man? Movies Books TV All sequel dominated and as for hating sequels, should capcom have ended street fighter with sf1? Maybe no mario after the very first one? No Diablo 2? No Final Fantasy 7 Etc, etc More 'cool' criticism in my view. i.e criticism without any thought behind it. |
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kangarootoo
02/07/08 @ 13:51
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"No consolefying equals conservative? Well in that case keep those conservative games coming!"
Point. Missed. |
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SilasMalkav
02/07/08 @ 14:14
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He's just upset that he didn't think of making Fallout 3 the way Blizzard is making Diablo 3. Who wouldn't love a 3d isometric Fallout with destructable environments? Basically Bethesda said that isometric is dead, and the worlds biggest and best have said "umm, actually, no, it isn't"
I don't think Blizzard are being conservative. Being conservative today means making a third peson over the shoulder shooter. |
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I don't really see the problem here. Blizzard's games really are pretty damn conservative. I mean, they don't take massive risks, do they? Diablo 3 is still pretty much Diablo 2 but prettier with a streamlined interface. No doubt StarCraft 2 will pretty much be StarCraft 1 but prettier and... etc.
The thing is that "conservative" isn't an insult. It's just a comment. Like how "Sidescroller" isn't an insult. |
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The thing is that his first comment was exact my dissapointment in Blizzard's choice with the way to go with Diablo III. Not only wrong turn but also inspite of being fun it will only last a bit... and eventually get bored of that game fast. Diablo 2 back then way. was the shit. and addicting. Now this is just the remake they did of Prince of Persiia for XBox live ffs. not excusable for me from a company like Bliz. I expected WAY more.
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I agree, they both are conservative.
Blizzard has always been pretty conservative, look at WC1 -> WC2, or WC2 -> Starcraft, or D1 -> D2. Blizzard has a high focus on delivering balance and polish rather than revolutionary changes, and that's not a bad thing. With D3, the genre hasn't really changed, so the fact that the changes are conservative doesn't matter, and I'm still looking forward to getting it and it'll be great. I'm not so excited about Starcraft 2, though, that might be too conservative. Dawn of War and Company of Heroes have added a lot of cool new stuff to the genre, and I'm not that eager to go back to just a more polished starcraft. |
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stallion185
03/07/08 @ 04:37
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Far out... Diablo 3 hasn't even been announced for a week yet and people are already convinced that they know exactly how the game is gonna play.
Seriously... Some people just need to STFU and wait. Do people really think that Blizzard will let SC2 and D3 be shit? How about we just show a little faith in the world's greatest developer, they know what they are doing. Some people need to read news posts a bit more carefully too, this guy was obviously being a bit sarcastic in his apology. |
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