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Fallout 3 Comments by Kristan Reed

28 October, 2008

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krudster [mod]
28/10/08 @ 07:14
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It was primarily reviewed on the 360, FYI.
Scimarad
28/10/08 @ 07:14
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Ahhhh - Thanks for clearing that up Krudster:-)
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28/10/08 @ 07:17
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OMFG! OMFG!

"And even when you feel like you've seen everything the game has to offer, you find yourself greeted by entirely new creatures, characters and architecturally unique areas more than 60 hours into the game"

OMFG!

10/10

/foams

Let me at it!

woooooohoooooooooo!!!!!!

Ahem.
Scimarad
28/10/08 @ 07:24
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Once again, the IGN review sounds like a big list of the flaws - Still gave it 8.8, though.
sirtacos
28/10/08 @ 07:24
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OH MY FUCKING GOD.

This is INCREDIBLE! I'm so happy right now. I'm definitely getting it.

FUCK!!!

(*am high so may be overblowing my enthusiasm a bit*)
Agent_Llama
28/10/08 @ 07:27
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Blimey! :oD
DerFlange
28/10/08 @ 07:28
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I am moist for this game
UncleLou
28/10/08 @ 07:36
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If I could play the game again, I think I'd resist the temptation to keep picking the Fast Learner perk. As much as I wanted to level up quickly I think I may have reached the level cap sooner than I would have liked. My advice is avoid this one if you want to explore the world properly - it's evidently not as much fun to play once you're unstoppable.

Aha, that sounds like good advice. I lost interest in Oblivion when I became an unstoppable, all-damage-reflecting God.
CordableTuna
28/10/08 @ 07:39
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Oh bloody hell. A post-apocalyptic game with a puppies and rainbows level of difficulty. Yes, I know the casuals have to be thought about too, but how about at least giving some scraps for the types who've played RPGs before? Like a difficulty level slider? How the hell do they expect to create atmosphere without danger? "The earth shakes! You turn around and see a huge mutant! And now it's dead. Right. Anything else here? No? Okay, I'll just be on my way then."

And yes, I'm the guy who complained about the deaths in Fable 2. I hate how the casual-friendly wave turned out gamer-hostile so fast. I'm by no means hardcore, but I just want some sort of challenge from my games.
muscleblade
28/10/08 @ 07:42
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According to a british PS3 magazine the PS3 version has a lot more graphical issues than the 360 version. Just wanted the people with both systems to know.
dr_faulk
28/10/08 @ 08:01
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Holeeeeee Shite.....

I knew Bethesda wouldn't let me down.
Darren
28/10/08 @ 08:03
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So the overly negative previews EG gave of this game led to a... 10/10 review? Huh? :?

Granted, I'm thrilled that the game is *that* good but I honestly expected EG to lay into it and give it a 7. Nice to be proven wrong though! :)
MrDurandPierre
28/10/08 @ 08:05
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I'm thinking of picking up either this or Fable 2. Can anyone who's played both shed any light on the core differences?

I mildly liked Oblivion, but not that much. I found the combat, stealth elements, and NPC conversations horribly clunky and not at all fun. Yet I still enjoyed wandering about the land seeing all the sights and sounds. Once I discovered that I could run faster than most enemies, I found myself frantically scrambling through the oblivion gates, checking my map every 2 seconds as I would when playing a Silent Hill game. Once I started "breaking the game" by running through it, I found it much more exciting, oddly enough. In other words, the game seemed broken in a lot of regards, but it was so ambitious that there was at least some way to make it fun for anyone. Not worth $60 for me, but not bad for $30. Fallout 3 looks much the same way, so I'm wondering if others who didn't love Oblivion (but also didn't hate it) feel differently about Fallout 3.

Haven't played the first Fable, so I have nothing to compare Fable 2 to other than Oblivion. I'm leaning towards buying Fable 2 over this, but I'm pretty on the fence. Any advice would be appreciated.
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28/10/08 @ 08:09
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A 10? Wow might have to have a look. I've not really been sold on what I've seen (and to be honest I'd never heard of Fallout before 3) but Oblivion was cool so might check this out.
dr_faulk
28/10/08 @ 08:10
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Holeeeeee Shite.....

I knew Bethesda wouldn't let me down.
Darren
28/10/08 @ 08:14
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krudster - "I spent just over 60 hours playing this, which, I dare say is longer than most. I still want to go back and play some more. If that's not the sign of a great game, I'm not sure what is."

Yup... sound like another Oblivion to me and that is all I need to hear as I still consider it *the* best game this generation has produced because of its immersiveness and sheer amount of gameplay; it is a wonderful game that kept me playing it for over 300 hours in total. If Fallout 3 is better then I can't imagine how much I'm going to enjoy this... all I know is that I'm sure I *will*. :D
Darren
28/10/08 @ 08:17
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@Scimarad - The 8.8 is the UK IGN score... the US site gave Fallout 3 9.6 on the PC and 360 and 9.4 on the PS3. ;)
Darren
28/10/08 @ 08:18
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P.S. Just noticed that Resistance 2 got 9.5 on IGN!!! WOW! I'm playing the beta and it is excellent. Another game to look forward to then considering I'm buying Fallout 3 for the 360 (it has AA and extra DLC you see).
Jimpanse
28/10/08 @ 08:19
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OMG iam first ^^

Great Game btw !!!

omg, must have....

/need money
siro
28/10/08 @ 08:20
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I've been (pleasantly) surprised that it's a just two page review. Didn't think this would get the score it has then.

It's raining tens, hallelujah.
Katsumoto
28/10/08 @ 08:20
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It was technically possible to complete the original games without firing a shot - doing everything relying on your speech and intelligence etc. I'm guessing the emphasis is firmly on combat in this one? A shame, it was always fun talking the final boss into committing suicide. Not sure why I spoilered that, it was mentioned in yesterday's retrospective!

Anyway, for all the bitching I will no doubt get up to as a hardcore Fallout 1/2 fan, I hope to get over myself and enjoy this a fair bit. May have to splash out next week. Or should I get Dead Space instead? Gah! No money!
f00b_inc
28/10/08 @ 08:20
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I've honestly never had such a difficult choice of next game purchase... I guess I'll get LBP and wait for this, Far Cry 2, Bioshock to be 20 quid!
JoeBlade
28/10/08 @ 08:22
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Sounds fair enough.
Oblivion would've been an 8 or 9 to me instead of a 10, mainly because it was possible to 'ruin' a character by levelling it up poorly, in turn caused by the quite awkward enemy levelling system. Thanks to that I found myself restarting so much - while trying to create a proper character build - that I'd only achieved level 14 or so when I got tired of the game, which I found a real shame.

If that's been ironed out together with the minor faulty tidbits and replaced with some nice additions such as VATS I can very well see how this would be a 10.
captainrentboy
28/10/08 @ 08:22
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10? Fucking hell this site is bias, towards errrmmm, the PC, 360 and PS3.
This looks cool, but I thought the same about Oblivion before playing it, and I bloody hated that in the end. Anyway I've still got loads of Fabling to do. Too many good games in such a short space of time. Damn!
bonker
28/10/08 @ 08:29
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76th!

Blimey, another 10: 3rd-gen games rule :)
rotmm
28/10/08 @ 08:33
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@Darren, "P.S. Just noticed that Resistance 2 got 9.5 on IGN!!! WOW! I'm playing the beta and it is excellent. Another game to look forward to then considering I'm buying Fallout 3 for the 360"

Not entirely surprising given IGN's favourable attitude to PS3 exclusives.
designerheadache
28/10/08 @ 08:33
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sorry, no trophies, no full price sale.

too man good games at the moment.

ill pick this up in the bargain bin at some point.
Bloodkult
28/10/08 @ 08:35
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Bollocks. Another couple of hundred hour time sink then.
By the time I'm finished with this the next Elder Scrolls will be out.

Dammit Bethesda!

lennon
28/10/08 @ 08:36
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wasnt expecting this as the previews always seemed negative. Good job I have Thursday off what with this dead space and fable I am not going to get any sleep!
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28/10/08 @ 08:36
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^Garo - 10/10 doesn't mean perfection in the EG marking scheme. It just means it is an essential game to play for anyone with that system. It can be essential and still flawed.

Oblivion and Bioshock were essential games to play and were as flawed as hell. I didn't particularly care for either but I'm glad I played them.
Mysjkin7
28/10/08 @ 08:39
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Not entirely convinced by this review. It touches upon few crucial elements as to what makes the game spectacular. Sure, innovative combat and living world, but there's gotta be more than that, right? Where, exactly, lies Fallout 3:s strength to hold its own in a world full of post-apocalyptic RPG-shooters?
PearOfAnguish
28/10/08 @ 08:41
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"It's Kristan Reed who marked TESIV: Oblivion 10/10, thus I'm still not convinced. I obviously didn't want to like Fallout 3 though, that's how much I dislike Morrowind."

Eh? What's Morrowind got to do with it?

"10's are coming too easy. This looks cool, this game, but Bioshock was too videogame-y for me."

A videogame was too videogamey? Oh no!

"Gears 2 is preordered and guaranteeed fun."

Because that's not videogamey at all. That's serious business. It's got big men with big muscles. Grr!
Crea
28/10/08 @ 08:41
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Fuckity fuckity fuck.

/reaches for wallet.
JYM60
28/10/08 @ 08:42
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So one of the yes men reviewed it. 10 was obvious.

Bit sad to see EG give all these sequals ten, but not LBP.
Der_tolle_Emil
28/10/08 @ 08:45
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Wow. I guess this is a must buy then. I have never really been into Fallout but the review really makes me want that game.
DB2k
28/10/08 @ 08:46
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what happened to all the 7/10 reviews? yo uare making me too poor. Stop giving games 9s and 10s.
gman7714
28/10/08 @ 08:46
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Cool, I'm so glad this got a 10. Just got to sneak it past the missus now!

siro
28/10/08 @ 08:46
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I wouldn't really consider this a sequel in the classic sense.
ZuluHero
28/10/08 @ 08:47
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so oblivion 10 and now Fallout 10? Mucho Awesomeness.

Tbh the moaners just have to get over it. There is no denying these games are some of the most realised and detailed out there with more to do and see than any that come close.

I just wish friday would hurry up already...
Dizzy
28/10/08 @ 08:51
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What? 10? Oh dear.... there goes my money.
Moonprince
28/10/08 @ 08:52
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Of the big games released recently, this is the worst so far without a doubt. 7/10 at most.
MrED209
28/10/08 @ 08:54
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More like "What, another 10?", what the fuck are EG doing these days? Their 10s are TOTALLY devalued, there's so many of them!
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Darkjinxter
28/10/08 @ 08:58
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Picard's dungeon indeed - pfft
Septim's dungeon.
Skywise
28/10/08 @ 08:58
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Hmmm is this a Spore or Fable 2 10/10 or a real one?
JaysonG
28/10/08 @ 08:59
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oh man stop with the 10's I can't afford it.
dreamkin
28/10/08 @ 09:03
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I think we must call games like Oblivion and Bioshock "reviewer favorites". It seems like a good strategy to play to the tastes of the average clueless reviewer. Essentially Bioshock was a fool's System Shock 2. At least it had a better design than the dreadful Oblivion which was nigh unplayable without mods applied.

But I guess the magic word for reviewers is "non-linear" today. Nevermind the horrible mechanics and non existent story.

Now I am wondering why we are comparing Fallout 3 to Mass Effect or Oblivion. This is supposed to be Fallout 3. Even if it's a great game (which I assure you isn't, but many people will buy it anyway) there is still one simple issue. This is not Fallout. Fallout isn't its setting only. It's a game as a whole. And that game isn't a First Person Shooter masked as an rpg. It's perfectly okay to make a Fallout game like this, but at least it should not be named Fallout 3. In the past we had Brotherhood of Steel, on the consoles. It was an action rpg and wasn't called Fallout 3. Even Fallout Tactics wasn't called Fallout 3 and it was more Fallout than 10 Fallout 3s combined.

My advice is... old fans, stay away from this thing. New people who want to experience fallout, go get yourself Fallout 1 or 2 for 5 dollars.
JYM60
28/10/08 @ 09:03
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"Hmmm is this a Spore or Fable 2 10/10 or a real one?"

I'm struggling to remember the last real one.
Bloodkult
28/10/08 @ 09:06
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Score whining like a bunch of fucking babies is obviously more fun than playing videogames it seems.
PearOfAnguish
28/10/08 @ 09:08
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"Seriously, you need to stop this 'OMG Bioshock teh roXXors1!!!!' bollocks. It's becoming a bit childish."

But it's not as childish as deriding someone else's opinion of a game because you don't agree.

They liked it, you didn't. Try to move past this.
Mr_Dodger
28/10/08 @ 09:10
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@simakperrce

A good number (possibly the majority?) of people that played Bioshock really enjoyed it. Therefore it's a good benchmark for opinion.

Likewise a good number of people who played CoD4 really enjoyed it. I thought it was extremely overhyped and buggy as hell. Does that mean people shouldn't reference it as a shooter benchmark, or if they do I should say "stop the CoD4 bollocks"?

No. Because it's all down to opinion, and everyone's is equally valid. It's up to you, using discernment, to decide which ones you agree with, not try to denigrate others.

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