Fallout 3 Comments by Kristan Reed

@dreamkin, "Even if it's a great game (which I assure you isn't....)"

Thanks for the assurance. I'm more than happy to take your opinion as stated fact over another persons opinion. You strike me as so much more an "authentic" gamer.

GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU!

Wow, might have to get this then. Damit!

I wish everyone would stop rattling on about Oblivion. Sure it was great / shit (delete as appropriate)...

This is not Oblivion.... It was made by the same people, but its a DIFFERENT game! jesus!

I must say 10/10 is a surprise, but I found that to be a rather lacking review, like there are things to hide.... (okey, im a suspicious man!)

Boo. And indeed, ya.

I remember a time when people on this forum used to talk about games and consoles rather than bitching pointlessly about a number at the end of a review. Get a grip for christ sakes, read the WORDS and make your own conclusions.

This game sounds like a definite purchase for me as it fixes the niggles I had with Oblivion (which I loved to bits and spent silly amounts of time in), namely area levelling and vague combat.

It's not gonna usurp Fable 2 as my GOTY though, the charm and fun of fable has me and my girlfriend totally spellbound and we're having a whale of a time bumbling around together in co-op.

All in all, it's a great time to be a gamer with a pocket full of monies!

I'm not really a big RPG fan (saw about 20% of Oblivion and so far about 30% of Mass Effect) as I don't get on with stats/levelling and especially magic but do like the immersion of these games. I took a plunge into Fable II and am liking much of it so far though only the christ knows when I'll ever get close to finishing it. Now this comes along (which I didn't have down as a must - despite some glowing previews) and I know that come Friday my wallet will be dragging me towards the local games emporium. Oh well, I'm going to have to try and hold off a few months....

Jesus christ, I wasn't expecting a 10 from Eurogamer, I knew this would get top scores everywhere else tho but this has pleasantly suprised me! I was gonna wait til xmas for this but not a chance now, I'm all over this on Friday, fuckyeah!

I should hurry up and finish Oblivion then.

Oh, and I actually need a new lunch box, so everything works out here.

@ Farticus

+1

"All in all, it's a great time to be a gamer with a pocket full of monies!"

Don't forget the time machine too. Or we live in hope for a slow slow start to 2009!

Wow

Well I was hoping it would get a top review and it has, this will probably be the game I play the most from now on.

Well done Bethesda, can't wait for my copy to arrive now.

muscleblade ..."a lot more graphical issues"...
littlehamster ..."receive message under XMB...the game freezes and the screen blurs for a few seconds..."

10/10 sounds perfect yet the review tell's me nothing about which version I ought to get? PC? or PS3. looking at the comments here it seems as though it will have to be PC, which leaves me with the problem of not knowing the specs (you could have listed them). I do know that my PC isn't up to the task. So I will have to bite the bullet and get the PS3 version and just not login.
I am not happy with the structure of the review, this is a multiplatform game and Krudster (the reviewer I assume) mentions in the COMMENTS that he's played the game mostly on the 360. "mostly", so you must have played/tested it on a ps3 and a PC, briefly anyway. what are your thoughts on that then?
To top it all off, as somebody has mentioned before already, you haven't even mention Fallout 1/2 once! Your retrospective was written by "Keza MacDonald" and it was spot on! However your REVIEW was done by "Kristan Reed"
. Why? Why not get Keza to review the bloody game!


I am just not sure whether to order it now on amazon or not! pisses me off

and i thought that Gamespot has the majority of clueless editors on planet. GG Eurogamer, another gaming site bites the dust.

ah For Fuck Sake...

was hoping this would get a good but not too good review.
I can't afford all the games i want this month :/

got Fable 2the other day, almost walked out with Saints Row 2, Facry 2, Deadspace too...
thats over £200.
and now this...
with Gears out soon, COD5, Left For Dead and the new WoW expansion...

at least I dont own a PS3... or LBP would be in that list too ;/

@huppla, "Well, if you look i the top left corner, you will see that this is indeed a 360 review."

Roofle :D

I'm gutted

with dead space, fable 2 the upcoming gears of war 2 and now this...my wife is going to kill me!!

@huppla

ok, I assume therefore that they will post another review for the PC and the PS3 in the near future, correct?...

Ho-Ly shit. My wallet just started crying. :/

Awww hell yeah! 10/10 :)

\o/

Look on the bright side FTM, she's hardly going to see you enough to have a go at you ;)

I'm not quite as enthusiastic about the game as Kristan, I have to say. It's a hugely atmospheric, colossal achievement, but it's also riddled with flaws. The dialogue system is dated, the voice acting stilted, the real-time combat awful, the interiors repetitive, the menu map terribly designed when trying to find your way around inside anywhere... ordinarily the combination of these things would absolutely kill the game, but Fallout 3 is curiously compelling despite them.

@ps3owner,

It's unlikely. They may do one for PC if the control scheme and inventory system is sufficently different to warrant a new review, but the PS3 version is effectively the same product as the 360 one, so in no way would warrant a new review.

As to which platform, didn't the Official PSM3 issue 107 say that "The PS3 version compares poorly to its Xbox and PC counterparts." But then they clarified by saying that the PS3 version looks "slightly worse" than the other versions, but the PC version is the graphical tour de force and the one to get. Guess they gives us a heads up on the Eurogamer Face-Off for this title.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/art...
Although, isn't there DLC for the Xbox 360 version?

I pre-ordered on Steam ... now if only I could free up some time in my life to play this and the other great games that are available or just about to be released.

Any ideas which this is better on... no fanbaiting just would like to know... is the dlc only on 360?

10... hmm.. Fable2 worse most pointless ending ever and a 10.. whats wrong with giving good games a 9 *cough*lbp*cough*

Firstly, its great that this game lives up to its promise, rather that than a 6 or 7 due to critical flaws (just hope they haven't been missed like the Oblivion Levelling Feature).

However, this absurd rush of AAA titles being released in the space of 3 weeks is no good. I'm sure the publishers have worked out this is the best time to maximise profits, but it really is survival of the fittest, loads of very good games will be buried under the weight of the biggest titles. So now I will get Fable 2 and Fallout 3, but Far Cry, Dead Space et al will not get my money.

Why can't they spread some of these titles out so we don't have the interminable summer drought every damn year! Its just crazy imo.

Sppfffttt: The sound of four ten pound notes leaving my wallet, never to return...

Same reviewer who gave Oblivion 10/10? There are too many faults forgiven that I experienced in that game for a Eurogamer 10 score. After reading other folks' reviews of Fallout 3 the same appears true here.

Game Of The Year!!!!

@Raymeister, You could put £5 back in it if you preorder it from Zavvi.co.uk. And if you'd rather pick it up yourself, then just choose to collect at store on release day.

It seems to me that Zavvi is becoming the place to buy games online, though in-store prices tend to be the same as other retail chains.

Another 10/10.

Talk about "The Story of Too Much."

ok huppla. I'll get the PS3 version then. hope they'll fix the bugs ;)

So... PC or XBox360 version?

Btw, FTM - You're not Greg Mitchell a gorgeous sandy coloured labrador by any chance are you?

Too bad that headbog/arbiter & co where banned, they could have rampaged through this entire thread with claims of bias and unfairness.

"Same reviewer who gave Oblivion 10/10? There are too many faults forgiven that I experienced in that game for a Eurogamer 10 score. After reading other folks' reviews of Fallout 3 the same appears true here."

+0.5

I didn't get Oblivion based on the score but for the glowing review text that really made the game appear to be enjoyable. It made me disregard my dislike of the art style exhibited in the numerous trailers. How foolish of me. Besides being an awful looking game artistically, it had a broken graphics engine and worst of all broken gameplay.

From the ING review I understand that Bethesda didn't fire its entire artistic staff nor send them on an animation for beginners course.

Right then, it looks as though Fable II will remain sealed (only arrived yesterday) I though to myself spend the rest of the week with Saints 2 (60% in) and then Friday night is Fable II night...
Do I keep wrapped and buy Fallout instead*. I think I should pop over to play.com.

*rhetorical question, of course

People keep mentioning Oblivion because the review does. If Kristan was going to do a "compare" review then I'd rather he did so against Fallout 1 & 2, but I guess I can't have everything.

ARGH TOO MANY GAMES TO PLAY

"Treasured franchise gets a hyped sequel and a glowing review from Eurogamer. Think I'll pass... ;) "

Kthxbye, you don't mind that the rest of use will keep on playing awesome games eh?

"According to a british PS3 magazine the PS3 version has a lot more graphical issues than the 360 version. Just wanted the people with both systems to know."

Oh give it a rest will you.

"Not entirely surprising given IGN's favourable attitude to PS3 exclusives. "

ZOMG! IGN = t3h bias!

"But it's not as childish as deriding someone else's opinion of a game because you don't agree. "

MS Word yo!

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Great timing btw, after +- 1000 hours of playtime, I finished it 2 weeks ago. I can now safely say that I've seen at least 50% of the game. Oblivion is without doubt one of the best games made this generation, hopefully this will continue. Got to finish fable 2 first though. :(
The ps3/pc/360 most certainly have a great line-up this autumn!

"People keep mentioning Oblivion because the review does."

People keep mentioning Oblivion because it was created by the same people that created this game.

This comments thread makes me feel disappointed. You would really think that people might, after all this time, finally GET that liking games is wholly subjective. Are people pretending to be thick just so they can enjoy the fight?

I really liked Oblivion. I also liked Mass Effect, and Morrowind, and Jade Empire. I liked Fallout 1 & 2, and Daggerfall, and Fable. Can anyone see a trend developing?

I don't particularly like Battlefield 2. Its an awesome game and well deserves its reputation, but online competetive shooters just aren't my thing. Doesn't matter how good they, I just don't dig them.

Some people will never like this game, and some people will love it. If one of those people that loves it happens to be a journalist that reviews it doesn't make them a good or bad journalist. Its just the way the dice falls.

It would be idiotic would it not for a publications to set a journalist loose on a game that typified a genre they hated, as they would hardly produce a review that gave fans of the genre what they needed to know. I recall once reading a bad review of Monkey Island 2, but a reviewer that simply hated the whole point and click advanture genre.

Here is the kangarootoo reiew of FO3, and I haven't even played the game.

"If this kind of game isn't your bag, you won't like it. If you love RPGs like this, its one of the good ones. I give this game no score whatsoever because I trust you all to apply your intelligence".

This comments thread makes me feel disappointed, because many of you will be old enough to vote soon. And realising that almost all of life is subjective is pretty important if you have any hand in controlling it. If you don't like FO3 and its kind, move along quietly and buy something else. I'll even clap whilst you do so.

10/10 nice. IGN gave it 8.8.

Yes I will probably pick this up. I did not get into oblivion because of the setting which is why fable 2 is not floating my boat as a potential purchase.

Will I pick it up on PC or 360 TBD. Shiny new 22" monitor says PC, 42" HDTV and sofa says 360.

For those moaning about the review score. Use this review as a source of opinion. You also have other references to compare reviews with should you wish to. I personally find EG a pretty good site for a reasonable guide to where a game is at. A 10 score to me says that this is a good example of this genre of title, oh and all software has bugs. Remember this is the reviewers opinion and if you disagree with it you can always just JOG ON!

This review feels more like PR drivel than review. It bounces off the things beth pr highlighted and curiously keeps silent about everything else. It almost makes me wonder how big the money check from zanimax was for posting this review.
That aside.
Fallout 3: improved oblivion? There's that saying about polishing a turd. And 10/10? I'm curious to see what will be opinions about this game in a months time, when impact of threads on sales will be negligible and company censorship won't bother with fishing out bad press anymore.

"Besides being an awful looking game artistically"

Oblivion was many things, but awful looking was certainly not one of them.

People getting off on scores is what annoys me most in threads like these. 10/10 is as meaningless as 1/10, 7/10, etc. Let's not discuss or make statements about scores but about the review text or better still, the real game.

Yes..10\10..like that shit that was Oblivion.
And unlike the last preview of the game that I read on EG (that was quite (refreshingly) negative and\or critical).
And I see the reviewer isn't the same as the guy who made the preview. Understandable, yes..
Maybe I trusted this site far too much..

Oh dear, this autumn in particular must be very hard for les. Think of him while play your goty this autumn.

Nice one Kris!

hupple, could you post the link please?

FFS another 10. Don't have time for this game at all either.... damn it.

One to get and leave until I get around to it I guess. Really wanted this to suck so I didn't need to get it at any point.