Fallout 3 Operation: Anchorage Comments by Will Porter

Can we move on now and talk about the game?

Your comment was pretty much the first in this thread that didn't talk about the game.

""Can we move on now and talk about the game? "

Depressingly, as is demonstrated again and again, it seems we can't move on, and I somehow doubt we ever will. /sigh "

You are not being fair, among all the comments you only have some "mslol bloke" called "goat" and the "evil" buddy who are in the gaming scene to protect us from the evil money dudes. So kudos to them, I feel safer.

Now..., I still not sure what's an example of a good DLC ? I liked "Shivering Islands" a lot, "Knothole Island" (what's with the Islands thing anyway?) is okish (liked the chaging the wether thingy), and I was very, very disappointed with "Bring Down the Sky". What else there is? Good examples?

Shitty game gets shittier...

I liked the idea of a simulator and thought it would be a little like the Tranquility Lane thing - sadly not. I spent £6 on Savage Moon yesterday and I think that will be much better value than this

That sucks about the level cap. I thought it was just going to be patched in.

Oh well, still have hundreds of hours to go before I have to worry about that! :)

"Your comment was pretty much the first in this thread that didn't talk about the game."

^^LOL - yeah right

Disappointing, hoping that Bethesda takes note from the reviews and improve their efforts for the next two DLC. PS3 version owners rightly have nothing to be concerned about with this first DLC.

I wont bother purchasing it.

/doubts self due to completionist obsessive impluses

so, anyone that know can actually answer my question please?

The author mentions that he played the expansion as a Level 20 character. What if I play it with a level 9 char?

Well, at least the GTA4 DLC sounds more promising eh?

@Miliguel

My GF loved the new Puzzlequest stuff, mainly because of the new chara's. Kept her going for a month or so (again)

But yeah, Shivering Isles was amazing. Most of the DLC stuff is either blatant cash-in (Bandai Namco shame on you, that really should have been on the disc ) or tiny bits of fanservice which nobody really needs but the hardcore. That's why I can't get mad over DLC anymore. Nobody needs to buy it, and if it sucks there's enough resources on the internet that tell you so. But sometimes stuff like this or Isles comes along which really does offer something fans can dive into. I mean one mans 5 is another mans 8, just look at Mirrors Edge.

I read these pieces for an opinion or to know what I'm getting. The actual fun factor I can only experience for myself. So I'm buying this in march with the rest of it.

They should've released a free DLC that changed that utterly godawful ending.

@menage
Exactly my views on DLC as we know it. They seem to be the "Digital Collectors Edition" or something like that. Is not absolutly necessary, it's like a geeky add-on. I like it. Can and should improve though.

"The author mentions that he played the expansion as a Level 20 character. What if I play it with a level 9 char?"

I'm fairly certain you can take on the DLC whenever you please.

Can anyone confirm?

@Mili

Yeah, just how many gamers out there shell out 80 bucks or so for a collectors edition steelbook with a useless artbook and then complain about paying for DLC and yell "you are part of the problem" I wonder. I never hear complaints about that when it's the same thing.

Your girlfriend sounds like a dick.

""The author mentions that he played the expansion as a Level 20 character. What if I play it with a level 9 char?"

I'm fairly certain you can take on the DLC whenever you please.

Can anyone confirm? "

more so when the author mentions it was really easy for him to finish it up ... may be it won't be so easy as a Level 9?

Nah, the game scales encounters to the level you are currently at. When you enter a new area, everything in that area is then fixed to that level for the duration of the game. It means that as you progress through, there is always a challenge, but there is also scope to go away and level if you're getting spannered. Unlike on Obv when you'd go away, level, and come back to face something even nastier.

joint account == fail

"Shitty game gets shittier..."

How well reasoned. How insightful. Well done indeed!

Bit of a disappointment there, Bethesda. I had hoped for more, certainly after Shivering Isle. But I still remember the Knights add-on for Oblivion, which was rather similar sounding as this, so here's hoping the Steel add-on will be as big as Shivering Isle. But don't go asking 2400 points again, that was ridiculous.

It'd be nice if the ending was that you and your team try to disarm the Chinese nukes and end up setting them off, thus creating the start of the nuclear holocaust that you play the aftermath of in the main game. Then again, I have the PS3 copy so it wouldn't make a difference to me :/

@Brombeer

I didn't think that was overpriced. Same as PC add ons I think. And it did have a shitload of content.

"Shitty game gets shittier..."

"How well reasoned. How insightful. Well done indeed! "

Don't hope for reason and insight with him teabagger, each and every Fallout 3 article has one of these wonderful comments, I think most of us get the fact you don't like the game Yossarian...I've moved on from the upsetting news you don't like the game, now please can you too. Thanks.

I opted for the PS3 version over the 360 version (Why?? because I'm a freak.) so the news that the first batch of the DLC isn't great and for seemingly over-priced although a bit disappointing that they might waste the opportunity to expand the game world helps me tell myself that my choice (an educated risk in game enjoyment) wasn't as bad as it could have been.

I will not rest until the gaming world comes to terms with how thoroughly they have been duped by this piece of shit game.

Thanks Eurogamer!
This is public service.

Ah well, that saves me 800 points.

Still i reckon that both The Pitt and The Brotherhood of Steel expansions will be great. That plus GTA: The Lost and the Dammed will burn up enough MS points as it is...

Yossarian: Are you deliberately talking nonsense, as per your namesake?

@NithronL

Has to be, cause otherwise I've been duped for 70 hours already.

Does anyone know if Bethesda are likely to release the Fallout DLC collected on a disc, like they did with Shivering Isles/Knights Of The Nine?

Like most, I'm probably not going to buy any of the addons until the one where the level cap increases, and it'd be nice to buy it all in one go, especially if it's likely to work out cheaper.

So, MS pays to have this exclusive to MS and then Sony pays to make it crap? Bethesda must be laughing hard. ;-)

@Menage: Well, it did have a lot of content, but still 30 Euro for an add-on is a bit too steep imo. I'll wait for the GOTY edition, just like I did with Oblivion. It was way cheaper.

I'm a PC gamer, so I have to ask, why do I have to buy this with imaginary space dollars and not real money????

@theodg

Because MS decided you would.

@theodg So Microsoft can make more money off the stuff. It may cost 800 points, but you can only buy 500 or 1000 points at a time. So there will always be some unused MS points lying around with everyone who buys stuff on GFW and Live. And these points have cost them real money, yet they can't buy anything with them unless they buy more points, which is highly likely to leave them in the same situation as before. In other words: a scam.

I suppose that adds up nicely with all those subscribers.

What a bunch of moaning skinflints you lot are. If you enjoyed the game and want more then for the cost of a couple of pints you get more.

Yes the expansion is 800 msp, but I entered this at level 18 1/2, and it was just enough XP in what amounts to about 4 quests to get me to lvl 20. When I came out, there was so much good stuff in the amoury I was 400 pounds of weight over the limit, so I had to go back twice and dump some stuff into my apartment at Tenpenny Tower. If I found a merchant with enough caps, I'd now have around 4000 caps, up from arond 2000 before.
Oh and I now have 2 suits of T51-b armour, and a guass rifle that does 127 DMG fully repaired, as well as a fully repaired minigun, missle launcher, 2 fully repaired laser rifles, and 3 fully repaired outcast power armours (they turned on me for no reason, so I killed and looted them)

The quest was interesting, and whilst combat heavy, helped to fill in the stroy for those, like me, who haven't read the Fallout bible, or played the previous games. Now I'm at level max, I'll probably start again, and play this quest on the new character, whereas with some quests I won't (yes I'm looking at you, survival guide)

Basically I'm saying if you like the game, and want new quests, with new items, then it is easily worth 800MSP, if you don't want new content for Fallout, then don't buy it, and stop complaining about something you haven't played.

xbox360lol

sorry cudnt resist

This sounded like a terrible idea (a simulation ffs) and I'm not surprised in the least at the 5/10. Bring on the DLC that allows the player to continue after the main quest ends and raises the level cap.

Gamers with the Asian version of Fallout 3 can buy Operation Anchorage but they can't play it!
No patch has been released for the Asian version of Fallout 3, and you can't play the DLC without the patch.
Way to go Bethesda...

@ps3owner
"no wonder it's not due for release on the PS3 yet...
ah well, back to the original FO3 on PC for me, no half-baked Alaska then. Although. It's supposed to be warming up there ""

Dude... Do you also have a sign hanging on your back while you walk saying " I would suck cock for Sony" or you just do it randomly?

Back to the original FO3 on then, Havent started it yet. I might as well avoid the expansion though i know ill be getting it too.if I love the original. Sab but most likely true

Does anybody else read reviews backwards? I tend to start at the last paragraph and work my way back until I'm bored.

What I don't understand is why xbox gamers have stood for the whole microsoft space dollar thing (or wii gamers. I don't know how the PS3 does stuff like this) and why the gaming press haven't kicked up more of a fuss about it.

I don't really see it working on the pc as people are much more used to paying with real money using a pc (if you could never do it like with the xbox you might be a bit more accepting), you have access to user created mods, the whole process for getting the dam thing seems broken (see http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/01/... and piracy is easier.

@davisorle

I don't understand how you've managed to get to the "suck sony's cock" conclusion. (Although, maybe it's related to my nick name, even though it's a fact that I own one, nothing more) If it makes you happy, feel free to think what you like. I could say the same about you though, just replace sony with MS. I just don't see why bth. makes little sense. I guess you've pretty much got f-all to say about anything regard FO3 anyway, since you haven't even started playing it. So why don't you keep your written diarrhea to yourself and start playing FO3.

aaaahhh download content......over priced and under done........

"What I don't understand is why xbox gamers have stood for the whole microsoft space dollar thing"

There's nothing to not understand. Buying credits or paying directly, what's the difference? It's no more or less hassle.

Good thing is though that you can quite often buy gamerpoints on cards for less than the cash equivalent. Bargain.

There's nothing to not understand. Buying credits or paying directly, what's the difference? It's no more or less hassle.

Well it is really, isn't it. For example, this is 800 space dollars, but you can only buy in 500 or 1000 denominations, so you're forced to spend an additional 25% of the asking price. This is all well and good if you are regularly buying stuff, but otherwise it is simply extortion. It also confuses things, why should I have to know how much 800 space dollars is worth? Why not just say it's £7 or whatever?

@theodg

It's easy to make a fuss over practically anything. For instance, I don't know how people can put up with sandwiches. You have to take bread out of it's wrapping, spread butter on the bread AND put a filling in! Preposterous. I'd complain to the government if I weren't such a lazy funt.


MS points are simply not a problem.

Well, they get on my nerves too. I don't really see why I can't just pay for things in money. It's not a major ordeal, but having to do a mental currency conversion and buy points in blocks is an absolutely needless run around. PS3 and Steam manage to cope perfectly well without them, and are a much more user friendly experience for it.

@thedog:

Yes, the Points are a cheap way to force you into buying more points than you need, insuring you come back for more purchases or throwaway the leftover.
Having said that, in their defense they don't expire, so you can use them years later for another purchase . . . and I know precious few people that only buy a single item. They run out of a single account, so Zune owners can use the same pool for purchasing items from the Zune marketplace (all 3 of us). And while I agree its a crock to force you to end up with change (all but guaranteeing future purchases) I also think its a crock that an $8 purchase is priced at $7.99 to subconciously suggest its not as expensive as it is, and that's been going on by every retailer for eternity.
As to the incredibly complex conversion that bothers you -- 400 points is 5 bucks, 800 is 10, 1200 is 15, etc. If they started pricing items at "643.5 points" then yes it would be a pain in the ass, but pretty much everything follows a set pricing structure so the mental gymnastics required to follow the conversion are considerably simplified.

I would get this if they made it more challenging, or lengthier.

As it is, though, combat in Fallout 3 is a joke with VATS, and not accurate enough without it. I'm just not interested in something that's combat-focused, especially something that seems as short as this.

Maybe future DLC will be worth 800 points, but this isn't. I won't be getting it unless the price goes down.