Fallout 3 Operation: Anchorage Comments by Tom Bramwell

Is there any word on what you can do if you finished the main game by killing yourself? Do you need to start a new game to access the DLC?

Why the hell cant these people just say the truth about the PS3 DLC version rather than just ignore the question.

If you have an exclusive deal with MS or Not, just bloody say it.... its rediculous to leave PS3 users in the dark.

Looks awesomely good once again. I loved what they did with Shivering Isles for Oblivion. Hopefully the same for F3. I just got the game last week ;)

Wow, sounds good. Engorged.

Eh? I thought he clarified the PS3 DLC situation right there!

Woohoo!

So glad I stopped short of completing the primary quest, can't wait for the DLC.

@makeamazing
Didn't he answer the question?
Jeff Gardiner: We are doing this DLC exclusively for Xbox 360 and GFW.

@Widge

he did, i can translate and with no skills whatsoever i summarize his response as thus:

"we hate the Ps3 and will NOT be doing any DLC for it. Frankly it was a pain in the ass even having to do a PS3 version, but marketing made us."

Yeah he pretty clearly says for Xbox and Games For Windows.

Maybe if it was in font size 72?

@ makeamazing

Did you actually read the interview?

Yeah sorry he did, I kinda read it and was in rage...lol . Sorry :(

Still makes me angry that they are ignoring the PS3 users who have gone out and purchased the product, who would also want the DLC. To me this is the crappy side of gaming, why make it for the PS3 if they intend to shaft those users.

Dont get me wrong i also have it on the PC, so will be able to get the content, but i hate this two tier "gamer" situation.

@makeamazing

Problem is, Bethesda have gone on record many times just as Gabe "Steam" Newell, saying how the PC architecture makes them do a sex wee, but the PS3 architecture repulses them more than George Bush in nothing but his underpants.

They cash in on the PS3 version then run for the hills, sharpish.

To be fair, you can get pissed off at the lack of DLC, or you can just go out and play someone elses game instead. I'm going to rinse Fallout 3 for the platinum because I feel like it and am enjoying it, after that I can actually spend some time finishing off everything else I have.

interesting stuff, sounds like maybe I should hold off completing it until the third pack comes out maybe...? Either way, good shit

I watched a documentary on Half-Life, didn't realise that they all came from working at Microsoft. cue either foaming conspiracy or disinterest as applicable.

awww 50GP per pack. >='(

This kind of exclusivity kind of craps on the whole pre-owned games argument rumbling around... DLC may work across the board on all platforms, or if the title is single platform then the DLC keeps the community happy.
With no PS3 DLC then it would present an option to trade-in that version for the 360 or PC version (new or used) to get the DLC.

Hopefully that's not the case and some other kind of DLC appears post-Microsoft-exclusive...
:)

@Widge,

yup Gabe made his fortune off windows, when they were all shareholders.

No surprises where his preferences lie tbh.

"Dont get me wrong i also have it on the PC, so will be able to get the content, but i hate this two tier "gamer" situation. "

You got into the wrong tier probably.

I just prefer a fair fight, Im assuming this is because MS is throwing its money around and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and Ive been a big supporter of MS for years against the Unix/Linux crowd in the places I've worked.

Hey I dont even have a problem with MS making their own exclusives and making DLC for it, what I cannot stand is a game being released on multiplatform and them (the game makers) exluding a group of users who have supported the company and purchased it, and then they stomp all over them. Not only do i think its poor of them (even though its difficult to turn down a wad of money - I agree), but to me this seems alittle monopolising/anti competative.

He did say ‘this’ DLC, that doesn’t eliminate the possibility of them working on something separate for the PS3 now does it…

"I just prefer a fair fight, Im assuming this is because MS is throwing its money around and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth"

Or Bethesda makes more money on their 360 software and decides that supporting that platform is better business sense?

We have no idea what the deal is. Probably the fact that the Live platform is easier to do this stuff is probably the main reason.

yes that is correct, it doesnt mean it wont exclude it from the future. But still the communication of such things isnt too good.

Doesnt mean I dont love this game any more :) Its still my No1 from 2008.

Fallout 3: Constructed from solid win mined from the depths of Awesomegard.

"Now tell me, do you think they created all this new content in a matter of a month or two? "

2 months would sound about right yes.

@Interfector

It's not like they only finished work on the main game a few weeks before it was released... They no doubt finished it a good while before the game finally went gold, so I'm sure they've had plenty of time to work on the DLC.

I'm looking forward to this. The only problem is... I've pretty much done everything in my game. I've done all of the missions (the XP-giving ones at least), I've collected all the bobbleheads, I've bought everything for my house, killed all the Behemoths, I've explored all but a handful of the points of interest on the map (thank god for that Exploration perk). I even finished the main campaign, but I saved my game at the point of no return so that I could continue playing.

I'm not trying to show off, as I suspect most people (at least those as enamoured with the game as I am) have done these things too. I'm just curious as to how I'm going to level up beyond twenty when the cap is removed in the final content download, especially as he said it will be increasingly difficult to level up the closer you get to thirty. Am I going to have to wait until the cap is removed before playing around with Operation: Anchorage and The Pitt, are there going to be a heck of a lot of extra missions in Broken Steel to help gain experience faster, or is my journey to thirty going to consisting of creature genocide? I really hope that it's the second one, because I want to play the DLC as soon as it comes out, but I don't want to have to go on a pointless rampage just to level up. And I sure don't want to have to start a new main character, as collecting all those bobbleheads took me frickin' ages.

Oh, and if the Brotherhood Outcasts are involved in O:A, is it going to hurt my chances of getting into the simulation if, in my game, Protector Casdin has mysteriously died during one of my lengthy absences from Fort Independence? As with that chap in Megaton who has a tendency to fall off platforms to his own doom, I returned to Independence quite late in my game to find that the Protector failed to protect himself and was lying in a heap on the floor. Which was handy, as I managed to reclaim all of the equipment I'd sold him in perfect condition and it meant I had no reason not to turn against the Outcasts and pillage their base. Not quite so handy when you find out that you might need them to play the DLC though...

Still, it's not that important. I'm sure I'll be wandering around Alaska pretty much the moment I get home on release day, not even thinking about it.

Edited for possible spoilers.

makeamazing Oh come on get a grip, DLC is something MS pioneered on consoles right back on the first Xbox and they arent stealing it... theres just more incentive to go with Xbox Live; because it's simply better and MS know what they are doing. If it's exclusive maybe MS did fund the development of it... big wow! thats pretty normal, heaven forbid MS fund development of exclusive games and content eh? Because only MS do that dont they?... I know when this bullshit started too, Kaz Hirai sulking in his office to gametrailers about how Sony never pay for anything; it was bullshit, he simply knew Sony wouldnt beable to afford much this gen.

I probably wouldnt have bothered if you'd have just said you are a little dissapointed but Im sick of every PS3 fan claiming monopoly/buyout/moneyhats just because they cant bring themselves to accept the 360 is a bloody good console and MS have actually done alot of cool things in the console market. Its that kind of ignorrance that makes Sony so easy to hate when there's so many double standards and bullshit tactics from them and their fanbase of loonies.

At least everyone elses comments were fair. Yawn an Xbot, thanks for your input.

Wait.

I need to install GFW and buy Microsoft points on the PC to get the DLC?

I love Fallout 3 to bits, but there's no way I'll be doing any of that.

makeamazing hahaha whos a fanboy? You are the bullshitter claiming monopoly, I simply called you on it and explained how stupid you are for saying it... grow up, you douche.

@Calgon ... your well known on these forums for being a muppet ... Ok to clear up your crap... lets look at your well formed points...


DLC is something MS pioneered on consoles right back on the first Xbox and they arent stealing it

Errm didnt say MS stole the idea. Just saying MS is throwing lots of money about.

theres just more incentive to go with Xbox Live; because it's simply better and MS know what they are doing.

where did I even say anything about live... errm no. Pure Fanboy land. I said I dont think its fair on people who have purchased one version NOT to get DLC.. is that not a fair comment, regardless of your loyalties?

I probably wouldnt have bothered if you'd have just said you are a little dissapointed but Im sick of every PS3 fan claiming monopoly/buyout/moneyhats just because they cant bring themselves to accept the 360 is a bloody good console and MS have actually done alot of cool things in the console market.

Yet again, where did I diss the Xbox as a machine? Or say it wasnt cool? Sorry but perhaps once youve put down your rose tinted glasses you will probably understand I am saying I am not happy about them NOT supporting DLC for the PS3, didnt diss the machine at all.

So once you grow up alittle and try not to make this a PS3 Vs Xbox perhaps you might have alittle more repsect in this forum and less likely be called a fanboy.

They really did need to answer the question of how you will play this content if you have finished the game. If my character is dead do I need to start a new one to play the content? Will they take the end game cap off so you can just load your last character up and continue playing?

>I need to install GFW

Errr.. that is installed anyway.

"They really did need to answer the question of how you will play this content if you have finished the game. If my character is dead do I need to start a new one to play the content? Will they take the end game cap off so you can just load your last character up and continue playing?"

When you press 'continue game' it loads up the most recent save file - as I don't believe Fallout 3 autosaves any time after your character's demise (if it does, shout at me until my ears bleed by all means) then when Broken Steel comes out I imagine that you'll just load up a save right before your character dies, and then be presented with the new choices.

I'd recommend you dig out a save file from before the 'point of no return' to play Operation: Anchorage and The Pitt though, if you have one. That's what myself and others did to continue playing the game after they were finished.

If you don't have one, it might be that you have to start over...

Edited for possible spoilers.

Ive not got anywhere near to the end, but it does seem strange from the comments people are making that there is this "point of no return" and they didnt consider this a possible issue when making/creating the DLC.

"Ive not got anywhere near to the end, but it does seem strange from the comments people are making that there is this "point of no return" and they didnt consider this a possible issue when making/creating the DLC. "

Yeah. Had the new ending been in the first DLC it would have made more sense, but leaving it until last makes no sense to me either. Unless you have been told about the point of no return beforehand it's very easy to see how people end up being left with the prospect of having to start a new game to continue playing - I've always thought it's one of the worst decisions they made with Fallout 3.

I don't want to spoil the game for you, so all I'll say is this - save your game before you go inside. You'll probably know when you're on the last mission, so just remember to save your game before you activate that door...

Edited for possible spoilers.

@Calgon ... your well known on these forums for being a muppet

No anyone who reads your posts will see YOU are the muppet; pretending not to be a bitter fanboy when you obviously are.. Ive just read another anti MS post in another thread and I bet I wont have to look far to find more, yet here in this thread you state how "oooh Im not some MS hater this is just wrong"; this sort of behaviour is the deffinition of a douche. Lets have a look at your poor attempt to paint yourself as an innocent victim from a nasty fanboy.


Where the hell did I say you said anything about live?

Idiot! Its a relevant point since this is DLC, what kind of arguement is that "I never mentioned live so you cant bring it up" My god thats weak.

Yet again, where did I diss the Xbox as a machine?

I never said you did but why did you ignore the first two lines of that quote because that is what you did("its teh monopolollies!! anti competitive moneymen did it")... the reason for it is probably because you dont want to conceed that youd have been better off with the 360 version(wasnt it already known before release that MS would have exclusive DLC live like it was with GTA IV? Yet people still complain and pretend they were fooled).

I'd have to agree, Calgon is a muppet :'(

Only because I dont like PS3 fanboys though Moonshit.

@ glaeken and Farklepot: Could you please not post spoilers? Thanks a bunch for giving away that. I'm actually really pissed off with you both now.

*deep breath*

I decided to go with the PS3 version of Fallout 3, the apparently lower framerate hasn't bothered me at all and the detailed graphics are nice (although mostly it was because the system fan noise annoys me when I'm inevitably playing it quietly after my gf has gone to bed), but I'm very disappointed about the DLC not coming out on it. It was a surprise for me to love it so much, not having played previous Fallout games or wanting to sacrifice my life to Oblivion, so hearing that I won't get the DLC is bed news indeed. I don't want to play through it again on the 360, and I'm not going to buy it twice anyway, so I guess they lose out on what would have been an instant DLC sale to me.

He clarifies the situation for PS3 related DLC, but says it will only be available for 360 and GFW. Does this mean it will/won't be available for Steam customers?

@Doctor_What: Ah thankyou! You see, youve just demonstrated how its done to Makeamazing without coming accross as bitter and hatefull to another console/platform holder.

Ah, can't wait to get a 360 again and buy all the fallout DLC at the same time. It will be epic! I really don't understand why people buy a PS3 when the only good games that ever come out on it are ones which have DLC exclusive to 360. May as well get a 360!

@Doctor_What

+1... That is really annoying. glaeken + Farzlepot, please edit your comments with /spoiler tags before you ruin the end of the game for others too!!!

Thankfully I stopped reading pretty sharpish, but I do know one pretty damn pivotal thing that happens at the end now, thanks for that.

@Calgon Im actually getting an Xbox very soon so i can get Fable and Dead Rising, so that kinda blows your arguments out of the water... and NO i will not be getting Fallout for a third time.

Didnt think I had to explain the word monopoly, unfair advantage or anti competative to anyone. Its pretty well known about MS and its practices.

Seriously though anyone who uses the term Douche on a Euro website really is in the wrong place or the wrong age... now move along

Nice how he completely ignored the question on whether 250 is still the DLC limit. I really want to know this.

the only good games that ever come out on it are ones which have DLC exclusive to 360

Yeah, just like Bioshock.

But on the other hand, the curt reiteration of the party line on DLC, without specifically saying that it will never be available on PS3 or PC outside of GFW, implies to me that if you're a PS3 player, I wouldn't give up hope.

"Didnt think I had to explain the word monopoly, unfair advantage or anti competative to anyone. Its pretty well known about MS and its practices. "

TBH Sony did plenty of that with PS2. Exclusivity is not monopoly, Bethesda have a choice but they probably decided that their time/effort is better spend on 360.

I just hope there will be some more houses to buy in the upcoming DLC.