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EVE is better than WOW, says Dyack News
MMO PC News by Oli Welsh
Silicon Knights chief and Too Human mastermind Denis Dyack has told videogaming247 he thinks EVE Online is better than World of Warcraft.
"I love EVE Online, and actually for me personally I actually think it's a better game," Dyack said. "I know it's a lot harder-core, but the depth of it is unparalleled, and I love it."
Dyack revealed that he struggles with addictive, time-sink nature of MMOs. "I have to force myself to stop playing those games because it takes so much time," he said.
"I used to [play WOW]. I pulled myself off; Within four weeks I was at level 57, so I almost got to level 60 and then I said, 'You know, I've got to stop this'."
Many would agree with Dyack; EVE offers a single persistent universe, a sense of real danger, and a depth of player interaction that Blizzard's monster hit simply can't match. Plus: spaceships.
Others might argue that EVE's impenetrable complexity make it a little too much like hard work compared to WOW's variety, accessibility and colourful action. Others still would say the games aren't comparable at all.
Stop by the EVE Online gamepage for a raft of features from EVE expert Jim Rossignol explaining this bizarre and fascinating game. Or just slag it off in the comments. Your choice.
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"I love EVE Online, and actually for me personally I actually think it's a better game," Dyack said. "I know it's a lot harder-core, but the depth of it is unparalleled, and I love it."
"He just can't help himself, can he? " Sorry but he is just expressing an opinion/preference, what's wrong with that? Or is it wrong to like one game better than another these days? Can I have that horse when you're done with it? |
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BillyBrush
27/08/08 @ 10:44
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Developer in talking about games shocker!....journalist has trouble coming to terms with the concept of developers talking....retardisation spreads ever further..
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Collymilad
27/08/08 @ 10:45
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Yeah I just love EVE.
It's great how if you wander into the wrong place you get owned at the drop of a hat, and it just so happens that 80% of the Universe is the "wrong place" EVE sucks, its too dominated by factions, and while this is an interesting thing, it makes it very difficult for anyone wanting to play Solo or within a smaller group. Yes, it's hard core - but wheres the line? Yes eve is deeper than Wow - but depth =/= fun. WoW is a hell of a lot more fun. I've played both (admittedly WoW for about a year and EVE for around 4 months) and the only time I ever had anything approaching fun in EVE was mining with my corp, whereas WoW was fun almost the whole time.
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kangarootoo
27/08/08 @ 10:45
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Holy christ on a tandem.
I tell you what I like Denis... shall I tell you? Go on then. Sometimes, just sometimes, I like silence. Thats a new one eh? How about you try it on for size and see if you like it too? At least the finding out will be fun, even if it doesn't last. |
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kangarootoo
27/08/08 @ 10:45
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"Sorry but he is just expressing an opinion/preference, what's wrong with that? Or is it wrong to like one game better than another these days? Can I have that horse when you're done with it?"
You can borrow my horse mate, but you'll need to bring your own stepladder :) |
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BillyBrush
27/08/08 @ 10:49
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Retardisation at 90%
'we cannae hold it back captain Hawking, they've used the breaching charge 'Goody01'...people no longer understand the concept of speech, people called Oli not Oliver are writing as semi professionals...it's all gone tae shit...Ohh Jordan's got a new pair of Jimmy Choos' ...'quick Wright, close the airlock on Scotty, there's no helping him now!' |
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4thVariety
27/08/08 @ 10:52
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He played both games, he then gave his opinion, who are we to tell him his personal opinion is wrong? The article might slightly overblow the issue making it seem as if Dennis Dyack can't walk past a single pond without taking a leak into it, but why shouldn't he answer when asked such a question? Anybody else here would.
Btw, the expression "comparing apples and oranges" is a shining testament to ignorance, nothing else. No sane person would try to compare identical things. Any dictionary will tell you that "compare with" is used to estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between. For example apple and oranges! Only those not interested in a comparison of comparable features are interested in pulling such an "apples and oranges" statement, most likely due to the fact of anticipating an unfavorable outcome should it happen anyway. |
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kangarootoo
27/08/08 @ 10:54
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@Xerx3s
Hey, if you are saying that my high horse isn't that high... well that sounds like a compliment to me... so I'll accept it :) |
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kangarootoo
27/08/08 @ 10:56
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@4thVariety
"Btw, the expression "comparing apples and oranges" is a shining testament to ignorance, nothing else. No sane person would try to compare identical things. Any dictionary will tell you that "compare with" is used to estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between. For example apple and oranges! Only those not interested in a comparison of comparable features are interested in pulling such an "apples and oranges" statement, most likely due to the fact of anticipating an unfavorable outcome should it happen anyway." I'm sorry to derail your well written, if slightly yawnsome, rhetoric... but are you suggesting that two apples are identical? (bear in mind text is cold and emotionless, and I'm really not being as rude as it first appears :) ) |
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JediMasterMalik
27/08/08 @ 10:56
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Even though I think Dyack as an immature dick, I can't see how this in any way paints him in a negative light, it's just an opinion, he hardly said WoW sucks.
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lol, almost lvl 60. He didn't even experience endgame WoW. Fair enough, EVE maybe is deeper than WoW, but drawing the conclusion before you actually discover what WoW has to offer at high level (at that time) sounds reaaally stupid to me.
How about producing some quality games instead of showing the world how much of a bigmouth you really are. argh, see what you made me do, Dyack.
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TSYNDMonkfish
27/08/08 @ 11:01
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Well each to their own and all that - I personally think its a little unfair to compare them.
EvE is a bit special though, Interweb Spaceships 4tw! |
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Sorry to those who are fans, but having played EVE I can honestly say that I don't consider "click on the ship, kill the ship, click on the next ship, repeat" to be deep gameplay. Of course there's also asteroid mining, which is really... fascinating.
I like that EVE has a single, integrated world and a lot of player-driven elements, but the actual gameplay is extraordinarily repetitive and dull even by the normal grind-heavy standards of other MMOs. |
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actionfitz
27/08/08 @ 11:20
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Loud-Mouthed Studio Boss in Personal Opinion Shocker!
slow news day much?
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Since when does a developer expressing a perfectly valid opinion become front page news worthy? Or are EG simply just trying to whip up a bit more anti-Dyack sentiment?
Tried the EVE trial - I think 5 years ago i'd have loved this game, but it's just too much of a time-sink for me to get into now. I appreciate what it sets out to do though.
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actionfitz
27/08/08 @ 11:23
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@paulf
27-Aug-08 12:06:04 "less time playing wow and eve more time getting rid of crazy unskippable death sequences and too human might of been a better game" lol maybe Blizzard will be sued after Epic for being at fault for Too Human being shit. |
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A hardcore fantasy mmo in developement using Unreal3 and in first person view is supposed to be released next summer. The game looks awesome and is called Mortal-Online. Check it out and take a look at the forums, the game has some fantastic ideas.
http://www.mortalonline.com/ |
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hula hoops
27/08/08 @ 11:29
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I personally think Dyack is a wanker. Don't ask why because I said "personally" and I am entitled to my opinion.
And you can 'personally' think I am a wanker too. Isn't it nice to be able to say whatever you want on the internet? |
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Monkey_Puncher
27/08/08 @ 11:33
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He expressed an opinion, is he not aloud to do that anymore?
What a stupid attempt to get hits this awful story is.. |
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BillyBrush
27/08/08 @ 11:36
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Canyarion
27-Aug-08 12:21:30 Trying to draw attention away from Too Human? :-p ignore poster Yes that's correct, developers try to deflect attention away from their company's products all the time...you got it in one einstein! In 2008, pigshit is used as a thinner |
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hula hoops
27/08/08 @ 11:56
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What a stupid attempt to get hits this awful story is..
On Eurogamer, my blame for this lame news really is. And better stories for us to read, they should have come up with. |
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haveasafeday
27/08/08 @ 12:01
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Everyone I know that plays EVE are the kind of people that need to get a life
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ThePissartist
27/08/08 @ 12:08
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I've just put his comments through the Mighty Dyack Translator and here is the output:
'My new game is complex but dull, this game is complex but dull - if you enjoy EVE (or WoW because EVE is better than WoW) buy my game because it's really, really good. Please ignore the reviews.' Or something. |
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SpyroViper
27/08/08 @ 12:11
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Why would we care what he thinks? He makes crap games and moans at Epic for shoddy engines. GO AWAY!
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haveasafeday
27/08/08 @ 12:15
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@degville I guess you're right but I bet you don't know anyone that has a 100day plan for WOW
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Apples and the H.M.S. Titanic indeed.
Being "hardcore" or "deep" doesn't make something better. It makes it different. When I relax, I want to relax, I don't want to spend several hours staring at a screensaver... I mean jump animation... incase someone decides to attack me. My day to day job is challenging, I look for my entertainment to be simplistic and rewarding. |
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