European Xbox 360 price cut is official
Effective from 14th March.
Microsoft will officially lower the prices of all its Xbox 360 units in Europe from 14th March.
The biggest saving will be made on the Premium unit, which drops by GBP 50 (EUR 80) down to GBP 199.99 (EUR 269.99).
Elsewhere the Arcade model will become the cheapest new-generation model at GBP 159.99 (EUR 199.99), while the Elite will fall to GBP 259.99 (EUR 369.99). That's GBP 40 off the current price in both instances.
"Xbox 360 is now mass market in Europe," said Chris Lewis, bigwig at Microsoft Entertainment Europe. "We have reached and surpassed several key milestones that form part of our long term strategic plan to achieve critical mass in Europe; and our portfolio now offers the kind of mainstream entertainment experiences that secure wider appeal for Xbox 360.
"History shows that GBP 159.99 is the price point where a console's audience begins to expand, and with these new ERPs in place we're ready to bring more consumers into the Xbox 360 world."
The announcement comes after the German Financial Times reported that the platform holder would reduce the cost of its console throughout our region.
Hooray.
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...on FRIDAY
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Seriously, though, Sony is in trouble IMO. The PS3's game line up is very tempting this year, but relative to the competition, it is such an expensive purchase at the onset.
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Been toying with getting an Arcade, just for the HDMI. I currently have a core with all the bits, HD, Memory Card etc etc and run it through VGA. But would like the best of the machine, so have been thinking about seeling current core to get an Arcade...the price cut has made it even MORE tempting!
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/awaits Live crashing and burning under 'unexpectedly successful' weight of new owners.
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Sure you are.
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Current price ranges for the Elite 437€ - 533€
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Ah well, you played it for a month already, at the time you though the machine was worth the money and in the end it's only half a game...
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Is that still 60 quid?
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But as someone else mentioned, all's well so long as we don't get the same live issues we had at christmas with the so called 'large influx' of new 360 owners!
If live goes down again for another month because of this, i'm gonna climb to the top the the beetham tower here in Manchester and perform the worlds largest drop kick across the pond right onto Bill Gates noggin!
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RRP is £59, but it's been £29-39 online over the past few months.
Then again, I use a bit of CAT5 and dont have to worry about signal degradation...
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Can someone translate that to non bullshit english?
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"Oh my god, someone buy these frickin' consoles - our sales numbers are falling year on year!"
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Did he buy it from Amazon? Because they have a price guarantee for 30 days (I think) and would refund him the price difference.
Wendelius
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After we revised them downwards several times till we were sure we'd be able to beat them (our bonuses depend on it afterall)...
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As if there is an alternative to cat5e...
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Can someone translate that to non bullshit english? "
If I remember my physics correctly, it means that when there are enough 360s out there, they are all going to explode.
This would explain any RRODs as premature reactions.
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If you weren't so mean, you could suggest writing to MS and moaning a little bit. When they first launched Xbox and cut the price after a month or two, everyone who wrote and complained got a free gift. Worth a try, if you're into that sort of thing.
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It's been established that fanboys of both consoles always point out the borked console in the shop. The demo pods have poor airflow and design and often my local HMV have their PS3 off because it has overheated when someone was sitting on the couch playing it. It's acknowledged that the 360 pods have zero airflow and so cause overheating pretty easily. Game in oxford street solved this by putting the pods near the front door and simply switching them off when it's hot.
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that would be great if it were true.
the console doesn't cost £159.99 unless you don't want to save any games. or download anything. or play with a wireless controller. or use an hdmi cable. or link to a wireless network.
if you want to do any of those things, the money adds up very quickly. although it does make the elite model look a lot better...
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"the console doesn't cost £159.99 unless you don't want to save any games. or download anything. or play with a wireless controller. or use an hdmi cable. or link to a wireless network. "
You're an idiot. The Arcade includes a 64mb memory card and a Wireless controller. So you CAN save games, download many XBLA games and play with a wireless controller for £159.99.
It also has an HDMI output, so you CAN use an HDMI cable.
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The games are a cert either way.
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critical mass means new games will be asured for quite a time
yes rrod is a problem but not a huge one not a deal breaker not with 3year rtb
i got my 360 on a notebook cooler - its happy i'm happy use it a lot as games machine and mce extender
£160 for a mce extender is darn good
i wish ps3 fan bois would get some new material though
ps3 yes good machine but only a comparble machine at best and good if you want blurray right this second
for online hd gaming the entry price is just fantastic now tho cant see what the complaint there is to that
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The Arcade with Memory Card, XBLA Games, Wireless Controller and HDMI has been there for a few months now. Some people always dig to find something wrong everytime we have great news.
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meh, the arcade version is half a console for half a gamer.
256meg isn't really a great deal of space anymore, but i apologize, i forgot there was a memory card in the box
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Uninformed and obviously just wanting to spread some FUD - no doubt he trots out similar party lines to everyone he knows who might be considering a 360...
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yes they did! and microsoft gave away games and a controller!
i bought a PS2 a week before it dropped 100 pounds so I rang sony and what did I get?
fuck all!
Cunts.
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The free games are actually stored on an included CD.
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Might wanna check your facts - the official UK 360 site has had the Elite priced at £299 ever since the price dropped to that. Most retailers drop the price down to £279 on the Internet because they can take advantage of the benefits of not paying VAT (hence why they all seem to be based in the Channel Islands). But go into any shop (or even look on game.co.uk) and an Elite on its own is £299.
So, you're wrong, I'm afraid...
Edit 1 Extraneous 'i' removed. Damn monkeys.
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if you want to do any of those things, the money adds up very quickly. although it does make the elite model look a lot better..."
Erm? As far as I know the 360 comes with an hdmi cable as standard and gaming through wireless really is a step backwards (a wired network just beats wireless hands down). The wireless controller is true but then again it's a budget pack and as far as I know, the arcade pack comes with a mem card nowadays.
EDIT: According to <a href='http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox3 60/4-/3512999/Xbox-360-Arcade-Console/Product.html'>p lay</a> it actually has a wireless controller, when did this happen?
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Arcade comes with a wireless controller, but no HDMI cable - only the Elite comes bundled with an HDMI cable.
But it's kind of equal really - wireless controller (which is pretty much standard now) costs about the same as an (official) HDMI cable.
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And that they made their money back with charging so much for XBLive.
They must be raking in a fair bit of cash. Bill Gates is no fool, eh?
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/coat
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Eh? PS3 won't be that price for quite some time.
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For the folks saying about a re-designed mobo/CPU - by now, barring any old stock retailers have, all 360's should have the 65nm Falcon setup.
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He mentioned games.
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Now that you have been shown to be incorrect for your HDMI, memory card and wireless controller objections to the £160 Arcade which you are no doubt trying to compare to the £299 PS3 or the £199 Premium have you anything else against this absolute bargain?
It amazes me that this is cheaper than a Wii - the two consoles are absolutely miles apart in quality of games available. And after all these are games machines - lets not kid ourselves of anything else.
@confounder - I think you are joking.
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While the Arcade pack may not be fully featured, you can still play the best games on it, it still has the largest and most varied games catalogue of all the next gen systems, In retail stores the games tend to be £10 cheaper than the PS3 equivalent even though the 360 versions are better (like DMC4 etc) these are qualities that unfortunately the PS3 does not offer. That's the fact of the matter and there's really not much you can say about it.
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FPS titles (or nearly all titles for that matter) on 360 DON'T require a harddisc. DMC4 looks pretty much the same on both platforms because Capcom usually develops on PCs and then ports down to consoles.
@Egster
I'm afraid a lot of people looking for the cheapest way to play GTA IV won't really agree with you...
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Just let it go. You and I both know that the price cut is a good thing. And people are completely uninformed by what the Xbox bundles include, about the fact that reliability is actually nothing like what it was before and that it has almost become fashionabe to just moan about anything that gets done to help consumers. Best thing to do is to just remember that as much as you'd like to spread the good word, people prefer not to hear opinions from fellow gamers, because they don't like to accept the fact that they are not as informed as they like to think.
The way I see it, it's a good thing not to have people like Confounder playing on Xbox Live. That's a positive to take away from what must have been a frustrating exchange of knowledge and ignorance.
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you're taking my responses out of context, i don't have an issue with the new arcade pack, it's loads better than the original core pack that was released now that i know the facts, got confused with all the packs
and i'm not anti-xbox in any way, i owned a premium which was one of the greatest consoles i owned, then got a wii at launch, then a 60gb ps3 just before they were discontinued, and the only console i was willing to let go of was the xbox (knowing i would get one again eventually...) and as i said, i gathered around 7000-8000 gp before flogging the xbox. 7580 to be exact (check my profile)
and @irnchriz: dmc isn't identical, i prefer the temporal aa effect on the ps3 version...
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Huh?
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penguin_overlord haha its really not though is it? 360 is just looking alot better value now... and its another bullet point gone for the SDF to use against teh Evil MS. Best console is now the best value for money again, this could damage Sony's "big year" and if they dont have one this year then thats this gen settled between MS and Sony, Blu-Ray isnt going to do it for them, the games arent either IMO(diversity my ass, and the only titles with the reputation for delivering AAA quality are MGS4 and GT5 the rest could turn out just like those other overhyped PS3 exclusives) but I will wait and see its far from clear cut this year(and you know it, thats why you are here trying to down play it
Its obvious why the majority of people upset about the faceoffs on EG are Sonybots... it ruins their arguement and reminds them they fell for another one of Sony's hype campaigns.
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Erm, the games are on a disc. Wow you really are quite clueless aren't you?
Before slamming something positive at least check your bloody 'facts' first.
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Is it all those games on the games console that is the PS3 that can't be accomplished on the 360? No of course not, especially considering how much better the 360 performs with multi-format titles.
Or is it simply because you're talking out of your ass.
Yes, that's the one.
The premium at £200 is a very, very good buy. If there isn't a huge increase in sales with these new RRPs then there's something wrong with European gamers in general.
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I'm afraid a lot of people looking for the cheapest way to play GTA IV won't really agree with you..."
Read his post again: he's talking about the price drop. 360 already was the cheapest way to play GTA IV before the price drop so with that group it will have little effect. Might sway some doubters from PS3 to 360 but that's about it. Wii is the Wii, people interested in that machine will not look at anything else. You could argue this is an attempt to even the odds a little against PS3 now that Blu-Ray won the war.
I don't expect a move by Nintendo anytime soon. It will be interesting to see how confident Sony is in the PS3.
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here's for competition!
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Reliability really is a big fat none issue. It really is the best console I've owned and I've owned a fair few. Buy one - simple as.
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This is a necessary move by Microsoft by no one should think that this is going to suddenly mean they outsell the PS3 in Europe again. The 360 is a console that is rapidly being made to look last-gen.
Yes, this is a necessary move by MS, and yes, how the 360 will perform now in (especially continental) Europe against the PS3 is still an open question. But "rapidly being made to look last-gen"? I can only think you are referring to the fact that the 360 does not have an HD optical drive built-in, or maybe because it lacks built-in wifi? Certainly can't be because of the 360s game library. Because if the 360 has a last-gen games library, TBH, so does my PS3
The Premium 360 is now £100 cheaper than a PS3 to offset the fact (in my view anyway), that it doesn't have BD or wifi. The new price differential makes sense to me, although the Elite should still be cheaper IMO. The 360 has been looking too expensive for a long time compared to the £300 PS3.
@Les
You could argue this is an attempt to even the odds a little against PS3 now that Blu-Ray won the war.
Truth is, this year will be Sonys big year, irrrespective of BD. At this stage MS simply need to do more than the competition just to keep pace. As you say, these price cuts may even the odds a little. It may work, it may not. FWIW, I don't expect either Sony or Nintendo to follow suit. I think Sony can be fairly confident of selling well this year. And with demand still outstripping supply, Nintendo simply have no need to drop their price.
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It wont affect the Wii though, because the Wii offers something different and reliability.
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I had an Acorn electron which broke a Nintendo NES which broke, a megadrive which broke I had a Dreamcast which broke, a mate of mine had three PS2s which all broke, My Xbox broke twice and my Xbox 360 broke a couple of months back. This reliability thing is starting to annoy me as it just happens all the flippin time with all consoles, pcs, mobile phones etc. Don't think that PS3 and Wii are gonna last forever without breaking, they normally last out until warranty runs out and then the "bricking chip" kicks in. Tick tock tick tock...
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Truth? no ... that is not truth because there are no facts, 2008 so far been the Nintendo Big Year as it was last year.
What Sony have in 2008 is MGS4, I heard a lot of claims about Sony and 2007 and we all know hoe THAT turned out.
I hate to go Wii360 but despite claims of Sonytards (and of so called "HARDCORE"
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Also consider that microsoft could have played its cards too soon because if the wii sees continued sucess nintendo may very well decide to hold back on producing their next generation of console till sales begin to slow down significantly, casual consumers after all aren't part of this generational cycle most gamers are used to.
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Can't say I particularly agree with the last part. I paid around €370 for my 360 Premium around October last year (cheapest Danish price I could find now with a price search was around €330 (but I'm assuming we'll get the price drop here in Denmark as well). Add to that an overpriced, and in many homes much needed €80 wireless network adapter and you end up at over €400.
In January I bought a 40 GB PS3 for around €380 - which obviously includes wifi. And of course the features you're free to ignore if you don't care about them (I very much do) - the Blu-ray drive, really good DVD upscaling and much lower noise levels from both fan and drive than the 360.
The initial PS3 models certainly did come with a pretty hefty price tag, but I don't really feel that applies at all to the newer 40 GB model - and certainly not if you do happen to belong in the group of people who can find a use for a Blu-ray player as well as a gaming console.
But along with my PS3 praise, I'll then also happily admit that it is unfortunately still far behind the 360 when it comes to the games lineup - so I won't be throwing out that noisy white box just yet
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What games? You mean all those FPS which require a hard disk and are available on my PC.
FPS that require a hard disk? erm...what are you talking about? Anyway, I'm not a shooter fan tbh, I was actually referring to games like Lost Odyssey, GTA IV (with exclusive DLC), Virtua Fighters (with online play and better graphics), 99% of multi-platform titles that are better on the 360 (I could continue...)
Btw, DMC4 is better looking on the PS3. Get your facts right!
Not according to EG (or anyone else who isn't biased) and visuals aside, the last time I had to wait half an hour to play a game was in 1986 when I owned a C64 with tape drive...
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It definitely was when released at €600. But now that it's €400, it's quite in reach for the more hardcore gamers (most around here will have spent well over €400 on their 360 and accessories). Sony's problem however is that the hardcore already have the 360 and there is little reason right now to own both 360 and PS3. If MGS4 and some of the other exclusives turn out well, that might change this year. But if you're strapped for cash and/or time and don't necessarily have to play each and every great game, a 360 will probably give you enough entertainment this year.
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Get your facts straight sdf zealot. You don't HAVE to pay and it's not p2p only. And "becomes even less appealing "? Gimme a break.
"Truth is, this year will be Sonys big year"
I keep hearing that but I can't help but wonder that a lot of the things paraded are not what the sdf pretend them to be. That and the fact that they claimed this in previous years as well and that the ps3 isn't the only machine with an exclusive lineup.
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I guess a lot of people do not agree with that. PS3 people have been saying that for ages.
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True, but the same thing didn't help the 360 much in 2007... Like 2007, 2008 will be the year of the Wii. PS3 and 360 will battle for 2nd place and arguably the PS3 has the better exclusives (MLB 08 alone should seal the deal for anyone interested in baseball of which I know there are few in the EU). But 95% of the games released in 2008 will appear on both platforms.
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Er... what else...? Nothing to beat the cross platform GTAIV. Am I wrong here? What Am I missing guys?
"You forgot having to pay for p2p servers on xbox live in your price calculation, xbox 360 becomes even less appealing then"
OK, well I'm happily on XBL silver, where I can see who's online and message them - even in a game! I get custom soundtracks, downloadable demos, XBLA, Downloadable Xbox games , Downloadable trailers, Event videos, music videos and movies.
If I want to play online, I have a big long list of 48hr trial codes that do the business just fine! If I was on my PS3, I'd be waiting for games and having no-one to play online against, not being able to communicate with anyone because they don't have a headset, and I wouldn't be able to play ANY of my PS2 games.
What am I missing out on by not having a PS3? Please let me know, because I'll buy one when I'm really missing out - honest!
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This sums up my opinion of the price cut, really. Talk of choosing between the 'tard pack and the elite is a bit daft - the premium at £200 is a fully-featured bargain, and one that anyone who considers themselves a gamer, and who is passing up this wonderful opportunity to play a deep back catalogue of games available at very reasonable prices second hand, before even getting on to the newer stuff, is frankly cutting off their noses to spite their face.
Reliability is a separate issue - if My xbox is starting to flake a little after only 7 months, so I can take it back to the retailer and get them to replace it on-the-spot within the first year... beyond a year, I would have the annoying option of sending it back to MS to get it replaced / repaired for free within 3 years for an RROD failure. I'm not defending MS on this - it is a very poor show that the onus is on consumers to keep their ability to play games intact - but there has been provision made to try and accomodate the most likely failures. This is still Not Good.
As for the online - I used to think that £40 a year was a lot, but now that I have bought it and tried it, I have to say that the amount of online gaming joy-happy I have got from what is basically the RRP of a game, I find it difficult to complain about it. Yes, there was a debacle over Xmas when plugging the xbox into Live was asking for trouble, and getting an online game was frustratingly impossible, but for the majority of the time, there is always somebody on playing something you want to play. All this, with the seamless joy of the friends list and comms system, makes the £40 hit much easier to bear.
I traded up, as a nervous Sony-loving PS2 owner, to the 360 last September, and since then I have had something to play every day, picking up some total bargains from the back catalogue and finally not resenting paying full price for a handfull of new games. 'Issues' aside, as a gaming experience, it has been a thing to make me smile, in a way that I never expected.
As I always maintained with the PS2, if you are in the position of having to choose between consoles, then it should come down to the games. If you absolutely have to choose, and the Sony franchises are the reasons you are gaming, then I understand a PS3 purchase - I certainly plan to get one myself for all the games that haven't arrived yet, and most definitely when I've got my HDTV installed some time in the late summer of this year.
If there is any True Gamer in your heart, though, and you have ever considered the games of the 360, I cannot do anything but recommend it. A Premium at £200 and a year of Live at £40 is going to be some of the greatest £240 you have ever spent on gaming. As somebody who never trusted the MS Brand, and who only (very) reluctantly went 360 because most of my gaming friends have one and I wanted to play games with them, I have been very pleasantly surprised by what I have found here. "Jump In" is always bandied about with such cheese, but it really sums up my very positive experience of it, and a these prices, there is something wrong with the wiring of your gaming heart if you aren't a little tempted.
I'm as surprised as anyone that I feel this way about it.
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This is what I'm saying. Certain people harp on about how good it is but I fail to see how it is much better it is than anything else.
EDIT: Not saying that it's bad, just disputing something certain people seem to think as truth.
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Probably because it's not your truth though but it can certainly be for them. Claiming PS3 is the best console is just as ridiculous as claiming the 360 is or the Wii. The best console is the one that best suits your personal preferences, not the one some salespeople on internet forums are trying to convince you is best for you...
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Then we agree.
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Live is really great these days too, so much more to it than in the Xbox days. I'd never used the "join session" functionality until a few days ago and it blew me away -- on the dashboard with COD4 in the tray, noticed a friend was playing online. Hit "join", hit "confirm", about 20 seconds later I was spawning on Backlot mid-way through his Domination match. Totally seamless. No question that it's worth paying for.
I only got the 360 in December, but I don't remember when I last had this much fun with a console, 1997 probably. Faced with a somewhat difficult struggle to catch up everything I need to play, though, last year was such a gold rush. I'm sure PS3 will find its feet eventually, and I'll happily hop on board the bandwagon then. But to miss out on a 360 now in favour of a PS3 just seems such a waste.
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You have to be deluded to think non-biased people or organisations exist in the first place... Anyone that claims he's not biased is.
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I have a C64, SNES*, Megadrive, Amiga 500, N64, PS, PS2, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS and Numerous Mobile Phones that have never ever broken, despite regular use (in their days). So the reliability is an issue for me. As is the bulk, cos i literally can't fit that crate in my TV stand. And this isn't a biased fanboy rant cos I actually want to buy one, cos the games are AWESOME (TM), but my head says wait. So when will it be redesigned then?
*It still works, although it's a bit yellow now.
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and there i was thinking i was the only person in the world who didn't know what was in the arcade pack...
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/hides shares
What makes you say that?
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what kind of dyke is he referring to?
our survey says....
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Are you saying that EG are not biased? They are the biggest Xbox fanboys on the planet.
Come off it, if you believe EG to be so biased, why do you frequent the site? I simply don't visit IGN or Gamespy because I think they're crap sites with crap (and often biased) journalists. I believe EG give as fair and considered opinion as possible in most cases, I strongly disagree with some of their scoring (they gave Blue Dragon 5/10 when it clearly deserved a better mark imo) but I didn't cry like a girl and call bias. They are just people and can't cater to my personal views every single time they put out a review, that doesn't make them biased. They scored Gears of War lower than most other sites with an 8/10 (although I agree with this score) but if they were soooo biased, it would have got a 10/10 (like many other places gave it). In short, calling a site biased because you don't like the truth is pretty weak mate...
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Guess ill wait to buy either a ps3 or a Xbox 360 when they are smaller, less noisy and uses less energy. Price is importent but so is the aesthetic, when your married. The dartvader sounds and looks off ps3 and the xbox doesnt appeal the the female demographic, and their scandinavian designer furniture.
I got a wii. Its small, its quiet, its Ipod white.
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How did you know that I'm dutch?
Being socially underdeveloped != being funny. Also, learn to spell.
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I had never played Xbox when I went from PS2 to the 360 after Europe got delayed (and I feared it was going to get delayed again) but I always imagined I'd flog it and buy a PS3 when it was released. How wrong was I! I'd rather sell my Grandma to a Bulgarian whore house (if she were still alive).
The 360 had reignited gaming for me, thank you Microsoft!
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The games I've worked on and released on the console weren't made by them... How about you show some love to the devs!
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Plus achievements have meant I have got more out of games than I otherwise would have and completed games that I otherwise would have got tired of, and that again is an MS innovation..
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Actually Fook the Inter/Liverpool game I'm off to play N+ (What a game!)
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It comes with a wireless controller, 256MB memory card for save games, a couple of Live Arcade games thrown in and the new smaller motherboard with is supposed to improve reliability and has a HDMI output.
What's not to like about this for £159.99!?! It's just under half the price of the PS3 40Gb model and if you just want to game is an excellent deal.
Anything else you want on top i.e. wireless, HDD you can buy seperately if you want but you're not forced to buy it all up front. Personally I think they are asking a little too much for their HDD's but apart from that it's the best deal going on a system with a rather large and good games library.
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But you are 'forced' to overpay if you do want to add these features at a later time. As for the 256mb mem. card, how many game saves and Live Arcade games can you store on it? Not too much I guess if I look at the size of DLC and save games on PS3. The Arcade might be reasonable/good value for more casual gamers but if you like your games by the dozens (as do most people that actually read these comments sections) it's not.