Eurogamer's Top 50 Games of 2007: 40-31

Christmas? What Christmas?

40. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords

D3Publisher / Infinite Interactive / DS, PSP, Xbox 360, PC

Rob Fahey: My flatmate played this almost every waking hour for about a month. I'm afraid to touch it.

Simon Parkin: This is what happens when Zoo Keeper and Bejeweled sit down to play Dungeons & Dragons. Implausibly, the result is greater than the sum of its rolls.

Matt Martin: A combination of two lovely geeky pastimes - matching shapes and D&D. I'm sure the AI cheats but that just makes me go back for more. But how come those vampire bats are so fucking hard?

Tom Bramwell: Actually, maybe Puzzle Quest is a close second to Slitherlink in my favourite-puzzle-games-of-the-year. Or maybe it's a close first? Either way, I poured an unbelievable amount of time into this. Nobody has taken an existing puzzle game concept and evolved it as impressively as this probably in memory. In the absence of a new PAL Fire Emblem, its daftly serious characters and lovely pictures were much appreciated too.

John Walker: I've only played the DS version, but boy-oh-girl, I loved it. I played it from start to finish in a fevered frenzy. It was Zoo Keeper (have I mentioned that I have the eighth highest ZK score in the world?) but with spells and monsters! Bah I say at your protests of Bejeweled. BAH! ZK all the way, baby. And so yes, PQ was littered with silly things, and the story was about as sophisticated as a particularly poorly educated lump of granite, but it made me a supremely happy bunny for very many spare hours.

Kieron Gillen: I ranted about Puzzle Quest's genius elsewhere, but it's such an elegantly beautiful thing that I can't believe someone didn't manage to make it before. It's as if someone took the wings of a bird and slapped it on a horse, and instead of just getting a flapping bloody abortion, they ended up with Pegasus. I can only applaud.

Alec Meer: I've heard it's great. Unfortunately I haven't been able to try it myself, as Kieron bloody Gillen has had my DS since September. Which in normal circumstances would make him the worst person in the world, but John fricking Walker has had my Watchmen graphic novel since 2003, so he's much worse.

Oli Welsh: I still haven't played it, despite the urgent entreaties of absolutely everyone. The fact is, I'm chicken.

39. Super Paper Mario

Nintendo / Intelligent Systems / Wii

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Simon Parkin: There's a bit right at the start of Super Paper Mario. One of the game's characters asks you, the player, if you're up for saving the world. Most games take this for granted so it's nice to be asked. You can answer 'yes' or 'no'. Do the latter and it asks again. Reply 'no' to the question three times a row and the game takes you seriously and, without fanfare, closes down and returns to the start screen. I like that. I wish more games did that. The bad ones, mainly - of which this isn't one.

John Walker: When a game like Paper Mario scores an 8, it can end up feeling like a disappointment. Which is idiotic, because 8 is clearly great (it rhymes, you see). But this is the sort of game where you start expecting a 10, and then wonder why it isn't there. However, there are some wonderful sequences, especially the gecko level, spoofing fanatic gamers in a way you'd think Nintendo would be wiser to avoid (although those legions of players who the gecko represents are probably too far gone to realise). The 2D to 3D gimmick was never really exploited to a satisfying degree. Hopefully we'll see a second version that takes it to the next level.

Keza MacDonald: It was lovable enough, but it never really got off the ground for me - it had neither the platform purity of a classic 2D Mario nor the hilarity and ingenuity of Thousand Year Door, whose focus was on the role-playing. But it was a truly fantastic idea, exceptionally well written and really very enjoyable. It's been a really good year for the Wii, and this is one of its most innovative games.

38. Overlord

Codemasters / Triumph Studios / PC, Xbox 360

Dan Whitehead: It's a rare game that actually makes me laugh out loud - a reaction usually reserved for anything Tim Schafer does - so the fact that this Pythonesque fantasy romp (yes, romp) had me chuckling like a mad old lady on the bus is reason enough to sing its praises.

Kieron Gillen: Its biggest sin was not being the game people quite expected - you weren't reeeeeeallllly that evil. Some were expecting GTA, and they got Pantomine Evil. If you can accept that and roll with it, it's a Pikmin-meets-Dungeon Keeper blur, and terribly witty. I'm also in love with all my tiny henchpeople, especially the ones with knives. And in the game!

Rob Fahey: Any game whose premise can be summed up as "Pikmin but evil" is an automatic winner in my book. It's a great concept. Watching your demonic minions run riot never stops being entertaining - and I loved the wicked sense of humour that flowed through both the artwork and the dialogue.

37. SingStar PS3

Sony / London Studio / PS3

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Kristan Reed: The best version of the best karaoke game ever made. Nuff said.

Tom Bramwell: As someone pointed out to me the other day, it's a bloody good thing SingStore didn't work for us the other week or we would have lost a considerable amount of money. The occasional technical glitch aside, this is a very swanky package, put together in a manner that ought to satisfy even the most lifestylie of companions. When Eurogamer and friends tried to put on a karaoke night in London recently and there was a "booking malfunction", pints of wine and a night in with Sony's alternative did us proud instead. Well, proud's probably a relative thing.

Kieron Gillen: The only PS3 game I've actually played this year. Bar fripperies and sales on demand, SingStar remains fundamentally unchanged. As does oxygen, but I wouldn't want to live without either of them.

Simon Parkin: Karaoke iTunes: it's the future of music games and Sony London got there first. Kudos for that and, of course, for being pretty much the only rhythm action game with a front end and UI that looks like it was designed this century.

Oli Welsh: Thanks to SingStar, I have seen video footage of Ellie Gibson doing a Macy Gray impression in a giant sombrero at half past eight in the morning. It should be game of the year for that alone. Oh, and Pass The Dutchie.

36. Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga

Activision / Traveller's Tales / Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, DS

Simon Parkin: There's something about Lego Star Wars - something that will no doubt also be present in next year's Lego Batman and Indiana Jones titles - that unites very young casual players with much older hobbyist gamers. It's only right that the combination of Lego with nerdish cinema IP should work that way, but finding a developer that could actually pull it off? Travellers' Tales was LucasArts's masterstroke. Fingers crossed for a Lego Watchmen in 2009, eh?

Dan Whitehead: My son has poured over 100 hours into this and, even with the horrendous two-player camera issues, I've had a whale of a time helping him along the way. It's helped to get him obsessed with both gaming and Star Wars, a feat my geeky fatherly encouragement never managed in five years. That's got to be worth something.

Kieron Gillen: The game which made me realise that someone I know involved with it must be spectacularly, impossibly rich. Which makes means that I must ask him for more drinks. Anyway - still smart, still quietly radical and a genuine family blast.

Oli Welsh: For me, the most life-affirming, heart-warming moment of the year in gaming was watching Jonathan Smith (Mr Lego Star Wars) demo this to an audience of small children in a cinema in Nottingham. They asked smart questions, and shouted at him because he'd got the wrong Fett, or forgotten some mind-bogglingly obscure detail about his own games. Kids are games' original audience, yet now they're ignored, treated with contempt and served up derivative rubbish by almost everybody. Except Mr Smith.

Kristan Reed: Come on, that's enough now. Can we move on from Lego Star Wars now? Brilliant the first time, still fun the second time, but this completist offering is only for those who missed the last two.

35. Zack & Wiki: The Quest for Barbaros' Treasure

Capcom / Wii

Tom Bramwell: I'm not sure if anyone has played this except for Keza, but when she described it to me on the train on my birthday it sounded amazing.

Kristan Reed: How to do adventure games in 2007. Makes me want to cry a little bit, really. Thank you Capcom.

Keza MacDonald: Zack & Wiki takes something you know - a point-and-click puzzler - and turns it into something wonderful and fresh and funny and full of the unexpected. The only thing that kept me from giving it a 9 is that I'm fairly certain that its cerebral, sometimes playfully obscure puzzling lacks universal appeal, but in retrospect, the only people who wouldn't like this would be FPS retards or people too old to understand the point of all this motion control. This is what I envisioned the Wii doing; if more people had played this, it would have easily made it into the top ten. Still, it's out here next year, so it will get the praise it deserves. If any bugger actually buys the damned thing.

34. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials And Tribulations

Capcom / DS

John Walker: A secret: I still haven't finished the last chapter. I'm pretty much there, on the last court scene. But I can't bring myself to complete it. I play it pretty often, another half hour here or there. But if I end it... that's the end of my Phoenix Wright games. There's no more. Believe me, I'm more excited than a chipmunk filled with helium about the next Ace Attorney game, but it won't be about Nick and Maya, and that's almost too sad to bear. So for as long as I don't complete this last chapter, I've still got them. That's a testament to this game. It's a beautiful climax to the trilogy, bringing back favourite characters from the first two games, introducing fabulous new ones, and most of all, going deeper into the back stories of the prosecution attorneys, and Maya's family. If more of the useless idiots that write for this site had played this game, it would be top five. But they are useless idiots, and therefore haven't, so it is dumped in this idiotic 34 position. Useless idiots.

Keza MacDonald: John Walker is right about everything, and also terribly handsome. I'm deeply sad about Apollo Justice taking over the reigns for the next instalment. Somehow I doubt he'll have the same loveable, puppy-dog incompetence as Phoenix.

Kieron Gillen: OBJE... nah, that one's done.

Oli Welsh: I'm going to miss him, I really am. Apollo Justice has a lot to live up to. I love that there's a game series out there where a casting change can break your heart.

33. Half-Life 2: Episode Two

Valve / Xbox 360, PS3, PC

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Kieron Gillen: That the latest instalment of arguably the finest PC first-person shooter ever was the least essential part of The Orange Box only shows what an incredible offering it was. We live in a Golden Age, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Dan Whitehead: Getting the Little Rocket Man achievement was one of my highlights of the year. That makes me cool, right?

John Walker: It's so great that we can trust Valve. There are developers we look forward to seeing games from with high expectations. But with Valve, we know their games will be great. Really astonishingly great. I'm fairly shocked to see Ep Two this low in the chart, and wonder how this has happened. It's by far one of the best games of the year, and a demonstration of why the linear, single-player shooter is still one of the best mediums for character development and storytelling.

Tom Bramwell: See, I don't know. I played the first hour or so at Valve when I was over there reviewing Portal, and got up to the bit in the mines just after you've done the siege bit with the Vortigaunts, and I wasn't exactly amazed. I felt Half-Life 2 had been overlong, albeit amazingly good, but Episode One took a while to get going, and I haven't gone back to do this properly yet. I will probably take my 360 home and do it at Christmas and then repent, but the fact that there is a Half-Life game in existence that I am not prioritising over every single other thing else feels significant.

Kristan Reed: A big improvement on Episode One, but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that I want to wrap up the Half-Life 2 story now. After seeing Portal and Team Fortress 2, I can't help but want Valve to keep doing new stuff because, basically, the excitement they appear to be able to generate when they do new things is almost beyond anyone else. Episode Two is, without doubt, a very fine shooter, with an exceptional climax, but the rest is slightly spoiled by the feeling of over familiarity. Still, as part of the amazing Orange Box, it's an essential purchase.

Rob Fahey: Valve proved that they could do gameplay which isn't just corridor- running with the stunning final battle of Episode Two - it's just a shame they made you run through so many bloody corridors to get there. It's still got superb atmosphere, though, and even if the HL2 formula is starting to wear a bit thin, the story has notched up a gear - so roll on Episode Three...

Alec Meer: I dug the character work, but never got the sense of thrill I did from HL1 or even Episode One. I suspect I'm just a bit bored of gravity guns now.

32. MotorStorm

Sony / Evolution Studios / PS3

Dan Whitehead: I normally hate driving games, but I really loved MotorStorm. Not sure if that means it's a really great driving game, or a really rubbish one.

Tom Bramwell: It's not rubbish. It's been supported amazingly, too (if this is to be the fate for PS3 exclusives, then hurrah). Races feel epic, precarious, interesting, different. It's not the best racing game ever, but it's probably the best new arcade racing game of this generation.

Kristan Reed: Never understood the appeal - Dirt was a far, far better driving game, and SEGA Rally did the track deformation stuff much better. I really did want to like it, too. Sorry guys.

Tom Bramwell: A new record for Kristan there - got to number 32 before I found his opinions offensively inaccurate.

Matt Martin: The most racing fun I've had all year. Loud, obnoxious, tight and messy racing gave me a real buzz. Plus, the AI driver known as Beast? I used to work with the guy it's named after - hello Beast, your game is nice!

Tom Bramwell: Are you a sixteen-year-old girl on Facebook? Bloody trade.

31. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

Activision / Neversoft / Xbox 360, PS3, PC, Wii, PS2

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Alec Meer: Paint It Black! I don't care about the rest of it.

Tom Bramwell: In the run-up to launch, this was rather unfairly brushed aside by neophiles giddy with anticipation for Harmonix's Rock Band. Particularly unfair, as Tony Hawk foreverers Neversoft actually did a very good job. For me, there's a brick wall towards the end of Hard mode, but then that's why there's a Practice mode. For some that's not enough, so it's a good thing Rock Band appears to have been designed for complete wimps. This has songs chosen specifically for their guitar elements, so they aren't as crowd-pleasing as the Rock Band line-up, but if you ask me it looks nicer, feels slinkier, has a better guitar co-op mode and a much nicer guitar peripheral. So certainly buy both in the end, and don't feel bad about picking this up before Christmas even though Rock Band is only a matter of weeks away.

Dan Whitehead: I found this to be a pretty big step backwards for the series. While the Harmonix titles felt like a simulation of how guitar playing actually works, this iteration felt like...just another rhythm game. The track list is patchy, and unevenly spread across the tiers, and there are too many moments where you can't really see the connection between the notes you can see and the ones you're hearing. The opening of Kool Thing, for instance, is just a mess. And while I like the idea of a battle mode, the fact that you win by spamming your opponent with power-ups rather than by being a better player is just wrong, wrong, wrong. So while it's still great because it's still Guitar Hero, there's no way it should place higher than number two.

Kieron Gillen: I was underwhelmed by this - the competitive modes were just plain rubbish, the choice of songs questionable in terms of everything without an enormous guitar solo in being kicked out (GH1 having two-minute songs was one of the many things which made it a purer pop thrill) and far too much Yank focus (when the sublime version of She Bangs The Drums was hid as an extra track, something's gone wrong with the world) and so on and on. But it's still Guitar Hero, and the best stuff rocks as hard as it gets.

John Walker: The songs are just far too long. I'm not a fan of the series, and honestly you can just go and **** yourself if that's a problem for you. But I can say for certain, having enjoyed watching other people play the first two games, that the songs are far too long in III.

Keza MacDonald: After John's comment: The songs are "too long"!? That's just the length that they are in real life! That's like complaining that the radio plays too much of a single!

Kristan Reed: More of the same, obviously, but a great track list and some superb refinements. The new wireless guitar really is rather lovely, too. Shame I'll never be any good at it.

Keza MacDonald: To the world: stop complaining about Battle Mode. It's not as if it's replacing Face-Off and Pro Face-Off, which is where the battle lies for hardcore players anyway. If you want a battle based on pure skill, go for Pro Face-Off. If your Medium-player other half has no hope of ever beating you, then Battle gives them a chance. Anyway, this is easily the game of the series for me, and fixes Guitar Hero II's half-implemented co-op and numerous other, less obvious deficiencies. I much, much prefer the tracklist, the online works brilliantly, the downloadable content isn't a shambles, it's hard enough to provide a challenge even for those who've been playing these games for ten hours a week over a period of years - there's basically nothing wrong with it, and I can only conclude that the general indifference towards it is a combination of Rock Band excitement, the crippled PS2 version and the sad fact that everyone else might be getting a bit bored of Guitar Hero. This is a sublimely focused, professionally produced piece of pure gaming, and loses nothing that Guitar Hero offered before.

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  • Zoro #1 4 years ago

    PW3 at 34 shocker!

    Aaah, who am I fooling, I saw it coming. Top 3 game for me though.
  • MadMirko #2 4 years ago

    Puzzle Quest is also available for Wii.
  • Kniteshade #3 4 years ago

    34?!?! BAHH @ useless idiots writing for the site.
  • Der_tolle_Emil #4 4 years ago

    Ah, I still haven't bought Puzzle Quest. Tried the XBLA demo and really loved it. Just like Picross DS I think this won't leave the DS for a very long time once I have it.
  • RobotRocker #5 4 years ago

    Guitar Hero 3 at 31? I want what you are smoking EG because its pretty potent.

    I mean, its not bad per say. But compared to GH 1 and 2 its totally charmless and soulless. All the horrid corporate product placement(I would have loved to see the look on Tom Morrello's face when he saw what happens before the Bulls on Parade Encore), ugly characters, and pandering to the 14 year olds with Dragonforce and gigantic breasts on the female characters. And strippers. Lots and lots of strippers. It also likes to spit in the face of people who it doesn't think are worthy. Tier 8 on hard? Not even Carry Me Home in GH2 was as vicious as Raining Blood. Dont get me wrong. Its still Guitar Hero. But you get the feeling its sold its soul to its new corporate masters and really suffered for it.

  • beastmaster #6 4 years ago

    Nice to see Overlord in there. Played the demo and enjoyed it. May actually go and pick this up.

    BTW - Merry Xmas everyone!!!!
  • lemonfist #7 4 years ago

    Am I alone in thinking Puzzle Quest is FUCKING RUBBISH!?
  • zoidberg #8 4 years ago

    HL EP 2 THIS LOW!??!?!?!?!
  • FairgroundTown #9 4 years ago

    @lemonfist - Yes! My no. 1 game of the year - the only game this millennium which I've stayed up half the night to play!
  • Mordum #10 4 years ago

    The first 20 of this list has been pretty un-exciting so far... I thought 2007 was a good year for games, where are they all? There's nothing noteworthy so far, hopefully the next 30 will include some decent titles.
  • JediMasterMalik #11 4 years ago

    I had so much fun with Ep 2.

    WHY SO LOW?!
  • Nithron #12 4 years ago

    Okay, Okay... Ep 2 should have been higher. Are there really 30 games out this year better than it? I mean, really? I can't even name 30 games worth playing.
  • Rash' #13 4 years ago

    Motorstorm tops Sega Rally! Common sense and justice prevails!! This to all those that believe Sega Rally is better: It isn't.
  • Apostle #14 4 years ago

    Well no problems with the list yet (no games I'm bothered about really) except for HL2 Ep 2. I mean, WTH guys?! Top 10 at the very least.

    Don't for fuck sake name Halo3 the #1. Oh god.
  • Agent_Llama #15 4 years ago

    If Halo 3 wins it'll be the icing on the cake of a year of very shifty review scores from EG. :(
  • symbiote #16 4 years ago

    "Don't for fuck sake name Halo3 the #1. Oh god."

    As if . Bishock me thinks. I can just picture Gillen masturbating over what comments to write...eww
    Edited by 1 at 25/12/07 @ 12:40
  • Singularity #17 4 years ago

    Glad to see that Peggle is at least 30th. : )

    I love these lists, they are always an end of year highlight for me.
  • The-Bodybuilder #18 4 years ago

    I really want to see the comments from the other staff (other than kristian) on Mass Effect.
  • captainrentboy #19 4 years ago

    I do hope that everyone who continuously gives Halo 3 a lot of shit, and intends on moaning a whole lot should it be revealed as the Number 1 title on Friday, has at least played the thing, I mean if you've played it and didn't think it was all that then fine, you're entitled to think it was over rated, but if you haven't actually played the game and are still moaning, well then you're a bit of a cunt.
    I think Bioshock deserves it, just for the fact that no other game this year compelled me quite as much to play it through to the end as quickly as possible as this title. Shame the end sequence was so crap, but hey, you can't have it all.
    Portal deserves a good place too, even tough it was faaar too short.
  • lemonfist #20 4 years ago

  • PeterM #21 4 years ago

    How can Zack and Wiki make the EUROgamer best of 2007 list when it's not out here until 2008?
  • Gurrah #22 4 years ago

    I can see TF2 being Nr. 1! It spent so many years in development and now that it's out, it's a f*cking brilliant game and a very brave experiment. Visually there is nothing else out there and gameplaywise no shooter I know comes close to the balancing and variety of the TF2 classes. Plus who wouldn't want to put a game on Nr. 1 who has a medic in it that screams things like "From now on losing is verboten!" :).
  • Dixons #23 4 years ago

    Is there a reason so many of you are cacking it at the prospect of Halo 3 being number 1? I mean, it is only a game after all, um, do you really hate it that much?! o_O

    Fwiw I don't think Halo 3 will get it as it doesn't have the wow factor some of the others had imo. It's a highly polished, virtually flawless piece of fan service but nothing more than that really. Will be top 10 though, no question.
  • tobsen #24 4 years ago

    I normally think it's pointless to argue about best-of-year lists, but claiming that CMR Dirt is better than Motorstorm is just plain delusional. That game didn't even have a proper driving model to begin with (central pivot, you loosers).
  • polar #25 4 years ago

    I really liked Ep2. Next to Portal, I thought it was the best part of Orange Box.
  • Apostle #26 4 years ago

    "Is there a reason so many of you are cacking it at the prospect of Halo 3 being number 1? I mean, it is only a game after all, um, do you really hate it that much?! o_O "

    No, I don't hate it. I bought a 360 mainly due to the hype behind Halo3 and found it to be a good game, nothing extraordinary, and certainly not a perfect 10/10 game. It is the first I've played in the series, and coming from a mainly PC gaming background, it was a bit mediocre compared to some of the shooters I've played on that platform (BF2, Far Cry, Half Life series, UT2004 etc). Therefore I don't think it should be game of the year, even though I was very impressed with the musical score, and the community features of the game (nothing not already achieved on PC though, but for user-friendly-ness, it's second to none).
    Edited by 2 at 25/12/07 @ 17:36
  • dudefella #27 4 years ago

    Expected GH3 to be higher, and surprised most people didn't like it as much. As a fan of the series since the first one, I think it far surpasses 1 and 2. Granted, battle mode in career is a fucking travesty, but mostly the game just makes you feel like a fucking rock star. And it's supremely satisfying when you go back to older songs that used to kick your ass, and the situation has now reversed.
  • cak #28 4 years ago

    For better or worse, people at eurogamer always like to be unpredictable.
    Halo3 will never be #1 on this list, Slitherlink is a much more likely candidate indeed. Bioshock and Galaxy are two more relatively safe bets. Oh, and Phantom Hourglass.
    But then again, the winner might as well be SWOS...
  • MrMarbles #29 4 years ago

    One conclusion that can be drawn from the Top 50 is this:

    Dan and Kieron are both utterly excellent.
  • tonynibbles #30 4 years ago

    Guitar Hero III, although good fun - is not better than HL2: Ep 2, MotorStorm or SingStar.
  • Chtulie #31 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=mpOOsFuLdCo
    ]http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=mpOOsFuLdCo
    [/link]

    How can this game be recommended when it's such an emberassment to put in front of other people compared to 1 & 2 which are like some holy, converting artifacts of gaming?
    Rock Band takes over the living room, Guitar Hero 3 goes back into the basement for single player hardcore gaming freaks who like long hammer-on/off sequences to play with one hand and work another part with the other.
  • Der_tolle_Emil #32 4 years ago

    I for one enjoyed Judy's bouncing breasts. I'm not sure if the whole new character design was really necessary but at least there's something I can enjoy in GH3. The track list is disappointing when you actually play most of the songs even though some of them sound great on paper. Sadly though most aren't fun to play, they are either totally boring (mostly true for the songs that are really long) or far too difficult - throwing tons of notes at you at the same time like in Raining Blood or One isn't much fun to play and doesn't give the least bit of satisfaction when you beat the songs because you know it has more to do with simply hammering all the frets hoping to accidently hit the right one when necessary (since hitting the wrong frets when doing Hammer Ons doesn't count as a mistake like in the previous GH games) or 'cheating' through the sections because star power lasts an eternity.
  • dudefella #33 4 years ago

    Every comment about how Guitar Hero 3 sucks comes down to one thing: "It was too hard for me". Cry more.
  • Chtulie #34 4 years ago

    Or 'it was to hard for me and my friends. It was stupidly hard rather then fun & challenging and we don't get off on doing stuff like beating the original zelda without the sword or other gamers that don't see much of either daylight or other people in a real life rather then online manner that this game seems to be aimed at'.
  • botherer #35 4 years ago

    There is not nearly enough OUTRAGE in this list about the disgustingly low position of Phoenix Wright 3.

    GET COMPLAINING. After all, isn't that what Christmas is all about?
  • Adman #36 4 years ago

    It was Zoo Keeper (have I mentioned that I have the eighth highest ZK score in the world?)

    This irritates me because there are 3 modes in Zoo Keeper where a high score means something, and because there aren't any sort of worldwide leaderboards for the game. I'd love to know the score and the mode.

    Dunno why this annoys me but it does!
  • botherer #37 4 years ago

    I don't have my cart with me (at parents for Christmas), but this is based on my having found some high score website, and finding my score for the main mode put me 8th.

    I've extrapolated this out to meaning I'm best of everything ever.

    I think my score was around 9,000,000, but I might be wrong.
  • AlexiusYindor #38 4 years ago

    Puzzle Quest definitely. I play it every day for at least 2 hours.

    AT LEAST. D:
  • dudefella #39 4 years ago

    Well if GH3 was too hard for you, play on a lower difficulty? That is why they are there!

    Unless you were playing on easy to begin with, in which case... yeah. lol.


    And yes, Phoenix Wright 3 is far too low in this. It's the kind of game that easily slips from the mind when discussing GOTYs, but it is top 5 stuff to me for sure.
  • Waldo #40 4 years ago

    Where's Space Giraffe?

    /runs
    Edited by 1 at 25/12/07 @ 23:30
  • GrandpaUlrira #41 4 years ago

    How does Johnny Walker know he has the 8th highest ZK score in the world?
  • Svecke #42 4 years ago

    HL2 EP2 deserves a higher point on the list, compared to Episode 1 it was fantastic. And I don't see what people have against the acid-spitting ant lions. It's not as if they were hard to put down, is it? Strafe much? :)
  • Kostabi #43 4 years ago

    I suppose HL2 EP2 didn't score higher because while good it's still just Half-Life 2 and we've been plodding through that story for years now. I definitely agree with the sentiment that it would be excellent if Valve finally retired Half-Life and started work on bringing us something new and exciting.
  • RobotRocker #44 4 years ago

    @dudefella

    That is probably the most ignorant statement I heard all year. If you are playing on hard, theres no reason to drop down to medium because there is no challenge to it anymore if you can play hard. GH3 is simply throwing a brick wall in front of most players with the final tier of songs and being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

    I know whats getting traded in March for a shiny bundle of Rock Band.
  • Stu #45 4 years ago

    GH3 is marred by the wall of impossibility at the end of Hard. Save the stupid bits for expert for the people that have spent too much of their lives on it, let the Hard bit be a challenge without being ludicrous.

    Otherwise a perfectly fine and logical continuation of the series. I'm yet to notice the detachment of onscreen and aural notes, but I'll try Kool Thing again and see.
  • zoidberg #46 4 years ago

    no justice for HL2 EP 2!!!
  • Adman #47 4 years ago

    I don't have my cart with me (at parents for Christmas), but this is based on my having found some high score website, and finding my score for the main mode put me 8th.

    I've extrapolated this out to meaning I'm best of everything ever.

    I think my score was around 9,000,000, but I might be wrong.


    Thanks for the reply. Just thought I'd let you know my score for the mode is 11,776,720 and only puts me 7th on the scoreboards I help run. 9 mill would be about 14th. Does this make me the bestest of everything?
    Edited by 1 at 26/12/07 @ 18:48
  • oerhoert #48 4 years ago

    Tom Bramwell wrote about Motorstorm: "probably the best new arcade racing game of this generation"

    I'd say both Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam and Excite Truck are better than Motorstorm, at least. Yes, they use the names of established franchises, but they're both entirely new games. Hopefully ET will be on the top 30.

    I like this end-of-year list tradition you've got going, by the way. It makes for interesting reading (for the most part), and I imagine it's a more honest, although perhaps less heavy-hitting, way of doing this than the traditional top five awards structure.

    f3rrari wrote: "I'm still waiting for Half-Life 2: Episode Two to be released on its own. Have wrote to Valve, but so far no reply. "

    It has been released on its own on Steam.
  • Cylinder #49 4 years ago

    Aye, HL: E2 has been available to buy on its own since launch.

    [link url=http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=ga me&AppId=420&cc=GB
    ]http://ww w.steampowered.com/v/index.php?...[/link]

    And it should definitely be somewhere in the top five, it's far too low.
  • Killerbee #50 4 years ago

    I'm having a huge amount of fun with Guitar Hero III since getting it yesterday, so I'm surprised to see it this far out. I suppose it may lose a bit of its impact for veterans of the series (for me, it's my first Guitar Hero), but the tracklisting is spot on and even though I'm sailing through easy with 90%+ on my first attempt at each song, having bumped it up to hard and not even managed to finish, I'm sure there's lots of life in this yet.

    Expected HL2: Ep 2 to be higher too.

    Oh, and does Zack & Wiki qualify for next year's list as well? Sounds brilliant to me and will definitely be among the first things I rush to pick up in 2008.
  • oerhoert #51 4 years ago

    Agreed. Zack & Wiki comes with great expectations now. Played it at Games Convention in Leipzig, and came away thrilled and smiling. Good stuff, I reckon.
  • Ikari2001 #52 4 years ago

    To be honest, I found Hard on GH3 similar to GH2, apart from Raining Blood and One whichare holding me back. Expert is similar as well, think I got a little further on GH2. The songs are more tricky, but they've made it easier by not being as punishing when trying to hit notes.

    I'll withold my judgement though till I get to play Rock Band next year :D
  • Mr_Bogus #53 4 years ago

    The whole "Are you sure you're up for saving the world?" thing reminds me of the Titus game Robocop - the only game i've played that asks "Are you sure you want to continue this saved game?" defaulting to "no", but has no confirmation when you choose quit.