Eurogamer's Best of E3 2009 Comments by Oli Welsh

no booth babe pics = fail

Biggest U-turn of E3?

Sony and Microsoft fannyboys suddenly defending motion control.

@spazmo

Um, most people are criticising it. In fact, only one person is defending it you spaz.

"But we couldn't let Bungie go without a mention too. So Halo 3 is the end of a trilogy then? Is it? Is it really?"

As long as Bungie can continue to milk the Halo franchise and make out of it then they will. And who can blame them if they sell by the millions?

What I don't understand is why they broke away from Microsoft Games Studios when their first two projects turn out to be Halo games and first-person shooters too.

@ Fixxxer That's fair I guess - I don't hate Mario by any means, I just think it was a bit of a weird choice!

@Domovoi
You said there was no proof it was staged, I provided proof. I didn't say the whole thing was fake, but the hands on you directed us to also recognises several flaws in the system. What did the Milo real demo actually do? Recognised a facial expression ... eventually. Recognised someone was talking when it expected them to - though didn't actually recognise the words they spoke - as implied in the presentation. Recognised the colour of the clothes she wore. As I said - Natal is great tech and the award could fittingly go to that. Milo - no.

Mario Galaxy dumps ten tons of cow dung on anything Playstation and Xbox has to offer. From a great height. And some people are wondering how a Mario game can be Game of Show?

quote of the show: Ever wondered what the bottom of an avatar's shoe look like. Well, BAM, there it is.

That was the best quote.. ever!

cheers,

@The whole Mario thing
I think what people want to see if Nintendo putting out some new IP in these spaces. If it's a new platformer it's Mario or Mario related all the time. People are a bit sick of him.

Looking back I think Nintendo showed a lot of good stuff this E3 - certainly a lot better than last year - they were let down by a dull presentation and lack of new IP.

It's MARIO. MARIO that we've been playing as for umpteen frigging years now. Mario. Again. With the whole same supporting cast. Again. Again and again and again and again. Do you not get bored of it? Honestly?

"Hey it's a Mario game, I wonder what the storyline will be"

Jeez, just a wild stab in the dark here but I'm thinking you might well have to rescue the princess.

there's no "the" in "agent"
and no monkey island? O_o

I'm excited about ODST and Reach of course but I agree with Darren, seems a shame for the first two games of their new found independence to be Halo first person shooters. I assumed they wanted to break away from MS to enable them to create what they wanted to, not what MS surely wants them to.

Perhaps if they'd stayed these new Halo titles would have been centred around the Master Chief though, some relief we're getting new characters. In fairness to Bungie they weren't exactly telling a porky when they claimed it was the end of the Halo trilogy, the Halo trilogy (Master Chief versus the 'Halo rings' heh) is finished, these new titles are set on Earth and Reach and probably only reference the MC in passing.

Embarrassing choice for game of show, quite frankly.

@ DrDamn

'Recognised a facial expression ... eventually. Recognised someone was talking when it expected them to - though didn't actually recognise the words they spoke - as implied in the presentation.'

Exactly. Another example - the video suggested that Milo understood the woman asking him if he had done his homework, and respond accordingly.

Smoke and mirrors.

Also, what's so impressive about the bit with water and the fish? Surely the Eyetoy did that ages ago?

I do think that Natal, and Milo, are very, very interesting (and promising), but MS (and 'promise the world'-Molyneux) were definitely trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

I agree with NATAL being tech of the show. Come on, it's the most daring, forward looking, courageous of everything that was on display at E3. It just was! And even if it was fake, which it wasn't, then it would STILL win because it made me imagine all the crazy, sci-fi possibilities.

@b00n

NATAL wasn't tech of the show. Milo was.

Best Game Announcement - Final Fantasy XIV Online...

Can't say I agree with that..I would have said Metroid :Other M by Team Ninja was a much bigger shock and created more buzz.....yet you didn't even give that an honourable mention.

I see one glaring problem with milo, namely:

Peter ''I lied my ass off everytime before, and always seem to underdeliver after'' Moulineux.

I mean seriously, EyePet is pretty much already doing that Milo shit, just a different game, different focus, same shit.

Game of the show for me was The Last Guardian, looks immense.

To be brutally honest Natal should have been tech of the show, that Milo thing was balls. Not that natal is much better, if Heather Mills had of been there with Paul and Ringo her fake leg would have won tech of the show, the competition was that poor.

What did you expect Ringo and Paul to say exactly Ellie? I thought they were quite humble and cool myself. They clearly know feck all about the game. Blame the people who booked them with no rehearsal.

JoneSaw dude, you didn't even read the article. That's pathetic.

agree with none of it. But there you go. :)

I just watched Ringo and Paul's brief E3 appearance on YouTube - it didn't strike me as particularly disgusting or embarrassing. Well, no more than any other celeb being paid to walk onto a stage and talk about games they've never seen. Or did I miss something?

Are you mental? NSMB Wii as Game of Show? Did Minkley write this?!

Were any of you at E3? Did you play NSMB? If not then I don't really see how you can criticise. EG aren't just basing this on videos, you know.

lol at all the geekrage

ANGRY INTERNET MAN IS ANGRY

How could "The Last Guardian" be game of the show? Didn't they just show a pre-rendered video that had already been leaked onto the internet?

As for which game I think was best? No idea, I wasn't there and didn't play any of them.... much the same as most of the people posting comments I would think!

No mention for Just cause 2? It was amazing.

Also FF14 MMo announcement taking the cake. Are you serious?

Weak.

Sorry...

And this: "Also FF14 MMo announcement taking the cake. Are you serious?"

Seriously, EG. An FF MMO seems to be about the last thing people are looking forward to.

Sony don't half spout some shit and take their time to get going, but boy, when they get going...

The next 12 months looks out of this world in terms of PS3 exclusives.

How could "The Last Guardian" be game of the show? Didn't they just show a pre-rendered video that had already been leaked onto the internet?

You know i've been dying to say this since it was shown of at E3 but i knew i'd be on the receiving end of a torrent of abuse.

I really didn't see why everyone was getting so excited about it but then again i though Ico was only ok and not the best thing since sliced bread.

Considering all of the top titles at the show, to have Mario game of show is pretty poor really.... seriously sort yourselves out EG....lol.

Tech of the show, thats a difficult one, I also agree Natal is a whole "Not as useful or anywhere as good as you think it is tech", but from a PR/show package, MS did pull it off (just look at all the press and people with "Amazing" all over their faces). So I can see why Natal was tech of show... Milo wasnt tech, it was just a well scripted bit of software.

The thing that gave me the biggest smile when reading about it was New Super Mario Bros. It sounds like Nintendo have found the perfect balance between good co-op and being evil, pissing off your friends for shits and giggles. The stuff that makes local multiplayer so fun to play.

@makeamazing

But NATAL wasn't tech of the show. Read the article again.

Milo != NATAL

I agree that NSMB would be no where in my list of fave games of E3. Am I missing something or is it literally Super Mario but with three other people playing along? The way they were hyping it was like there was gonna be some mind blowing new game mechanic. The biggest surprise for me, perhaps not the best game though, was Splinter Cell: Conviction, the videos made it look absolutely awesome and I'm not a Splinter Cell fan at all.

Eh................... Where's Metroid : Other M?

Natal? How can a lie ( smoke and mirrors ) be the best tech?

EuroLamer once again fails. Fucking laughable.

Mario?

/facepalm x 10

JusticeMose: The difference is that they have changed it to a competition between the 4 players to get the most points. The way they have done it does sound (to me at least) a lot of fun. Read the preview EG have done.

@Physically_Insane, ah i see (should have read better... but it kinda lumped them together)... well its even more crazy of EG then... Milo was just a peice of 3D, with a well scripted woman and some odd responses, Natal was the tech... and that wasnt that good.

Seriously could the "tech experts" keen to point out "its not actually doing the real thing" step back and take a look that it does have technology there that is a result of recent R&D... it was more impressive technology wise than anything else shown simply for being unique, it has no competitors in this industry as far as Im aware. Also you have to start somewhere, it confuses me... do these people complain about Parallax/normal mapping because its a trick? Alot of the biggest innovations in the industry right now are built on tricks rather than going down the brute force route, you say they dont count as technology now?(seriously just stop turning everything into "I hate MS" for once in your sad lives) There was nothing at all ground breaking in the graphics department this year anyway, we've seen most of the important ones in the catagory before too... it would be interesting to see these peoples choices but I think most already have suspicions of what these people are really about.

It is a good choice for best technology of the show Natal and Milo combined(it didnt say it had to be a game either because neither of these fit that category IMO... will they even release Milo as a game or was mostly a demo meant to inspire?) that is was the most captivating demonstration of the show and will be the highlight as we look back on it whether you butthurt Sony fans like it or not. Having said that nobody had an amazing E3 and nobody had a terrible one it was it was just a fairly decent showing all around.

Where is my Scribblenauts?

some kind words for the guys at sony from eg, does not happen often so they should be proud of what they are accomplishing at last!

OK EG lost all credibility with me now, not a single mention of Monkey Island. For shame EG, and seriously, I love the look of the new mario but game of the show?????

Still I don't care what EG's oddball picks are, all I care about is I had a cracking E3 (when it come to games that is, you can keep the 360/PS waggle tech real or not) with plenty on the wanted list, hell I'm even looking forward to PSP games again!

Well done games industry, pat yourselves on the back.

Like most of the fanboys pouring out impotent rage on here, I wasn't at E3 and haven't played the games, but that seems a pretty good article. Mario looks great (to anyone who isn't dead inside and is adult enough to play games that don't feature gruff men shooting things bloodily), Natal, for all the debate over how far along it is and how representative Molyneux's demo is (and with him involved, probably not very) looks potentially amazing, and it certainly seemed from here that Sony had the stand out show, with a v.impressive catalogue of games across multiple formats (though the other two did pretty well, especially Microsoft for sheer quantity).

Good stuff.

It;s over 20 years now I've been playing games now and people criticising Mario for the plot is one of the saddest representations of modern video games and gamers I've yet seen. Next up-Tetris doesn't feature accurate character modelling and lip-synching.

Good article and of course giving something for everyone, still that may never going to be enough for the fanboys today!

I ll second that Sony has the best portfolio of anyone, and Nintendo and Microsoft needs to do better to catch up next year, though I dont imagine that this would be easily done as Sony had possibly best range of studios under their belt.

Mario is the King. And will always, ALWAYS be the King of the videogame industry.

"It is a good choice for best technology of the show Natal and Milo combined(it didnt say it had to be a game either because neither of these fit that category IMO... will they even release Milo as a game or was mostly a demo meant to inspire?) that is was the most captivating demonstration of the show and will be the highlight as we look back on it whether you butthurt Sony fans like it or not."

^^This!!! Gets soooo tiring hearing the same dopes spout the same bullshit over and over. "Natal is crap" or "PM sucks" etc. It's like, don't you realize what an idiot you make yourself look like? Ok, you hate... that's fine. But at least talk with some sense or don't talk at all.

Milo most certainly does work, just not to such an extent that it can be put on shelves. People need to understand the difference between something which is all smoke and mirrors, and something which technically is possible and capable of happening, ala Milo. The tech is there - it's only the software that needs to be expanded.

Oh NOES!!!

How DARE they pick a game which ISNT a fps? That MUST mean they DONT know what they're talking about!

After all, it has COLOURFUL graphics and EVERYTHING!

it MUST be shit.. i've never played it so it MUST be..

*Sigh* forum gamers are retards.