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Eurogamer's Best of E3 2009 Comments by Oli Welsh

8 June, 2009

Game of the Show, Best Tech, Best Publisher, more.

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Rash'
08/06/09 @ 21:06
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ronuds, neither of which were used as motion sensing devices for game applications.
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Calgon
08/06/09 @ 21:10
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They were cameras for gaming devices what else were they intended for?

It was obviously something that was already thought of the games probably already existed in concept phase and look who scooped them up with their big "3vil" nasty corporate checkbook? It was Sony!
ronuds
08/06/09 @ 21:11
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Says it was also used in MANY arcade games.

Also from wiki:
"It was designed to be used as a webcam and a digital still camera, and there were plans for games to involve the Dreameye"

So whether or not they ever made games for it is neither here nor there - the fact of the matter is they planned to and the Dreameye had sufficient technology to do so. Sony saw this and made one of their own, plus had enough backing to actually release games. We all know why the Dreameye never came to fruition.

Not only did they rip off the idea, but half the effing name! LOL - the more I read into this the more hilarious and obvious it becomes.
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toythatkills
08/06/09 @ 21:14
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No Scribblenauts.

List is invalid.
Calgon
08/06/09 @ 21:18
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Anyway not that anyone important will read this trainwreck(lets face it lol) of a comments thread but I do hope MS add a wand/pointer with atleast a trigger to go with Natal for FPS's at the least a fully fledged controller with motion sensor and everything else you'd expect for hardcore games would be nice but be on over kill depending on just how much theyd need to add accurate pointing to natal with some triggers/buttons(ie it might already be halfway there).

It could prove to be usefull to even the most hardcore gamers too in the end.
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Rash'
08/06/09 @ 21:20
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ronuds, it is in discussions like these that your bias makes you incapable of seeing the whole picture objectively. i will say this only once and then you are welcome to rant to yourself. Eye Toy was the first successfully manufactured and marketed consumer electronics device that applied full motion controls to gaming applications. simple.
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Calgon
08/06/09 @ 21:23
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Not innovative was it though? They just released someone elses very same idea and there are still people claiming its an example of how "innovative" Sony are compared to MS.

Erm.. um.. the innovation is with being the first to do it with games you fucktard.

:/ I'd facepalm for Smelly and the like but I'm not that geeky.
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ronuds
08/06/09 @ 21:24
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"i will say this only once and then you are welcome to rant to yourself. Eye Toy was the first successfully manufactured and marketed consumer electronic device that applied full motion controls to gaming applications. simple."

Ok... I thought your stance was that they invented the tech. Your statements are like moving platforms, which rest where it is most comfortable.

And let's put aside the bias talk, please. It's not as if it hasn't been shining through in your comments - like giving a company credit for something they don't deserve credit for. Let those who live in glass houses throw the 1st stone. That means there will be no throwing stones in this comments section, that's for sure!
ronuds
08/06/09 @ 21:25
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"Anyway not that anyone important will read this trainwreck(lets face it lol) of a comments thread but I do hope MS add a wand/pointer with atleast a trigger to go with Natal for FPS's at the least a fully fledged controller with motion sensor and everything else you'd expect for hardcore games"

I agree. They need an all-around device which will work for any gametype or they might be limited to certain kinds of games.
Rash'
08/06/09 @ 21:28
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ronuds, maybe it's a question of how you interpret my comments... i've been reasonably objective in this thread.
betahoven
08/06/09 @ 21:30
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Milol. It's like Tamagotchi for paedos.
smelly
08/06/09 @ 21:37
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@ Calgon : "smelly MS designed their own camera and software is the difference you dickwad! Sony probably just bought the idea off logitec and relied on 3rd party for the games."


Oh... so microsoft DIDNT buy a 3d camera company recently?
smelly
08/06/09 @ 21:45
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>Milol. It's like Tamagotchi for paedos.

Milo:

Molyneux
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Lying (again)
Obviously
Geordiemp
08/06/09 @ 21:47
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Milo was a Fake. She got out of routine and had to catch up. Funny LOL.

Proof

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/screencapt...

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Rash'
08/06/09 @ 21:55
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when will people realise Calgon is Microsoft's bitch? he doesn't even have a 360 which just makes him an annoyance. thankfully such an annoyance can be avoided. :)
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smelly
08/06/09 @ 22:00
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>when will people realise Calgon is Microsoft's bitch?

Oh.. i didnt realise.. is he like this all the time? I thought i was in the wrong?

oh..

okay - he's ignored.. cheers
smelly
08/06/09 @ 22:06
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>No Scribblenauts.

Im still not convinced that'll work 100% as suggested.. but then i believe that more than milo :-)
Calgon
08/06/09 @ 22:27
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Oh thats rich coming from Rash' himself eh?

When will people realise Rash' is a mere Sony Fanboy who feigns all of his objectivity? Oh wait they already do... ;)

Oh... so microsoft DIDNT buy a 3d camera company recently?

Oh so that means what exactly? Couldnt be that MS saw they have been working on similar technology with a similar vision and wanted them on board rather than competing with them? No they certainly couldnt have been working on seperate projects at the SAME TIME rather than a gap between them to give either side enough time to "copy". :/ Idiot!
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Rash'
08/06/09 @ 22:32
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"Oh.. i didnt realise.. is he like this all the time? I thought i was in the wrong? oh.. okay - he's ignored.. cheers"

common sense prevails again!
Calgon
08/06/09 @ 22:36
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Ah the ignore feature when you're obviously in over your head you can just make out you are simply rising above, when in all honesty you arent, you are pretending none of the pownage happened. ;)

Let it be said I have far more objectivity than Rash' does atleast, no matter how much he tries to appear anything but a Sony fanboy, I mean he's just a trickier version of Apolol.

edit - Are these people being deliberately ignorrant? Its like they want to pretend they are uncovering the truth...

WE ALREADY KNOW WHATS NOT REAL THERE BECAUSE PETER TOLD US!

That and even EG got to test it out, what is there is impressive/cool/new enough in its own right though, so STOP CRYING!
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Moonprince
08/06/09 @ 22:44
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Calgon buddy, you should re-read some of this. It's pretty cringe worthy...
Calgon
08/06/09 @ 22:50
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Moonprince what is? The SDF brigade out in full force acting like tits? LOL tell me about it... fucking pathetic isnt it? ;)
marronthered
08/06/09 @ 23:43
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Does nobody get the reason why euroganmer chose mario as the game of the show?

Seems obvious to me.

It may not be a great tech feat in terms of graphics but the innocent fun gameplay of it is why its still extremely popular today.
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FrankCannon
09/06/09 @ 00:09
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@ smelly ? EDIT : Sorry for the lack of decorum and the profanity - i just have low tollerance for stupidity. ? Tolerance only has one l you stupid? annoying little cnut.
Dirtie
09/06/09 @ 00:25
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No Scribblenauts?
Jesus: Action Figure
09/06/09 @ 02:22
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Fucking hell at the comments.

I mean really.

FUCKING HELL.
smelly
09/06/09 @ 06:45
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>Tolerance only has one l you stupid? annoying little cnut.


The question mark goes at the end of the sentence.

Oh, and it's spelled "cunt"
trebell
09/06/09 @ 06:56
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All seems fine to me. I might have some different opinions but that's fine, he gives reasons for his choices.
Darren
09/06/09 @ 07:07
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@smelly's earlier question - Can I have four games that play differently all with DIFFERENT characters, please? ;)

Seriously, I thought that 2D Mario Bros. game looked old hat and I'm not interested in it at all. It would have been bottom of my E3 list personally. Super Mario Galaxy 2 on the other hand... I can't wait to play that.
BartonFink
09/06/09 @ 07:32
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Jaysus smelly really has delivered in this one. Frothyness and everything.
/applauds.

Not sure whether he deserves a facepalm or a joey.
Machetazo
09/06/09 @ 08:35
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While I agree with FFXIV as the game announcement of the show, I thought it was a close run thing between that, and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - which you've not mentioned - and my honourable mention would go to Metroid: Other M, showcasing Nintendo's astonishing collaboration with Team Ninja. In both these cases, plenty of gameplay and mood-setting footage was shown to spark the level of interest that came about, and ably illustrate why people should be keeping an eye on those games.
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TheComedian
09/06/09 @ 08:55
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I'm not too impressed with this list of games. I also agree that Natal should be tech of the show, with specific reference to Milo as an example of its capabilities.

What's happened to APB btw? Is it still an XB exclusive? I remember it was listed as the number one action game to look forward to this year, but I've heard NOTHING of it.

I totally agree with Oli, the SW trailer is unbelievable, and by far the best thing to come out of the canon in a while.

Did anyone else think SC: Conviction looked amazing? Uncharted 2 makes me wish I was a PS3 owner :P That would probs be my game of the show.

Also, I missed all the coverage of Scribblenauts this year, has anyone got any links to a good article? Cheers
dingo75
09/06/09 @ 10:18
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What's happened to APB btw? Is it still an XB exclusive? I remember it was listed as the number one action game to look forward to this year, but I've heard NOTHING of it.

PC exclusive now with a possible console porting later on.
makeamazing
09/06/09 @ 12:00
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I love all the people arguing about a tech thats not even anywhere near to being released... lols :)

As for Mario, never really liked that type of game, I'm the same with Zelda too, perhaps its the cutesy type graphics i cant get past, perhaps I'm getting too old to like those types of games. For me with all the big hitting games coming out in the next 12 months, it seems strange to give game of show to something that doesnt really look/seem that different to 10 or 15 years ago. I could real off all the big games at the show, but there doesnt seem to be much point ;)

I appreciate some people love that type of game, just not me :D.. but then Ive never got the idea why Pokemon or Animal Crossing seems to be popular to kids, but also a older (20's) group.
Azazel
09/06/09 @ 12:03
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Fucking hell at the comments.

I mean really.

FUCKING HELL.


Quoted for truth.
captainrentboy
09/06/09 @ 13:40
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Smelly's still fucking everyone off then?..... God he's boring.
lord
09/06/09 @ 14:37
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yay for mario

:bow :bow
Stoatboy
09/06/09 @ 22:45
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This comments thread has been a wonderful clusterfuck. Well done everyone responsible. No one looks like a twat after that little lot - honest. :D

@TheComedian: Here's a Scribblenauts link for ya. The second vid where Joe Public gets to play with it is the better of 'em. Enjoy.

http://www.offworld.com/2009/06/e309-scr...
saucymonk
10/06/09 @ 09:28
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"WISE UP.

Most people here are adults. Most adults here have played fucking Mario to death and is sick of it hence comments. No doubt its a great franchise and gaming experience, but seriously can we move on from Mario to something else after 20 years.

/hates mario. "

But not everyone has been playing games for 20-25 years. Just because many of us here have played mario umpteen times before doesn`t mean new people to gaming shouldn`t get the chance.

COR BLIMEY!
Christian_Otte
10/06/09 @ 14:59
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Which Uncharted video was it that made the audience gasp?
davisorle
10/06/09 @ 16:57
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Keep bitching about Natal, more ppl get to know about new tech that way or they would bury it cause fanboys like u screw everything up other than ur own heads. lol. Keep on bitching about it . Lets see when ull wanna "play" the same way when good tittles come out for that and only and you wont be able to play how much ull be bitching till u realise how much fanboism is killing gaming judgement. Oh, Might be when the asians bring out the first tittle with a virtual chick that responds to you and gets naked. might be the onl ychance for you to get interested into this.. lol i wouldnt doupt it really. Kids i tall ya
Les
10/06/09 @ 17:10
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"Jesus, EG's lost it. Seriously, Mario!?"

Would rather interpret it as the tiniest glimmer of hope...

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