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Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Comments by Quintin Smith

23 April, 2007

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HoriZon
23/04/07 @ 13:06
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Cant wait !
Tomo
23/04/07 @ 13:07
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25th May?! Fuck yes. I didn't realise it was so soon.

Exams are over the following week too... awesomeeeee.
PuffyPipe
23/04/07 @ 13:07
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Give me some strogg love baby! yeah!
Tomo
23/04/07 @ 13:14
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And it sounds awesome from that snipped too.

Do we know what specs it's going be wanting?
JediMasterMalik
23/04/07 @ 13:17
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YAY!!

Will get!

Can't wait!
revlob
23/04/07 @ 13:21
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16 players?!

I expected at least 32. I'm disappointed.
Nova5lag
23/04/07 @ 13:24
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Remember when I said I would kill you last?... I lied
Tejstar
23/04/07 @ 13:26
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Is this date confirmed then?
malarky
23/04/07 @ 13:29
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That's not quite right, we're working on balancing the game for 12 players per side. Quentin played on a server with 9 players per side, and I can guarantee you that playing with 24 players on a server is a frantic enough experience for anyone :)
Trip SkyWay
23/04/07 @ 13:31
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Cool, really want to play this. ET was one of my all time favourites.
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zuljin
23/04/07 @ 13:33
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Somebody has seen Commando a little too often.

Although I wouldn't have realised unless I've seen it too many times too.
BillGaitas
23/04/07 @ 13:40
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Commando, so many memorable quotes...

25th may ... what about the minimum requirements, have they been announced?
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asphaltcowboy
23/04/07 @ 13:46
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Damn, what version to get?!
Errol
23/04/07 @ 14:01
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Only 8 players a side?

Wtf?
Whizzo
23/04/07 @ 14:02
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Well as the PC version is out next month and will no doubt get some mods built for it there's only one choice really isn't there?

Really looking forward to this, hopefully it'll give the Battlefield series a kick up the arse as well to up their game too.
Errol
23/04/07 @ 14:02
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Is there some sort of global stats system?
Saladin
23/04/07 @ 14:04
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Sounds perfect for LANs, to be honest.
Salaman
23/04/07 @ 14:09
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Errol, yes, I think some stats system is implemented. I read about 8 previews (from this list here and I'm sure one of them mentioned clan stats were going to be implemented which gave you numbers on a plethora of stuff.

So it sounds promising. Not sure if this is the same as what you meant.

Salaman
23/04/07 @ 14:12
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MM ... from my experience with ET. If it works OK for 3v3 it will work for 2v2 as well.

It'll only be a matter of time as well before the community starts spewing out lots of custom built maps. It's bound to include some geared at smaller play.

I'm glad it's this playable with 8v8. I currently play with a group of people I've been playing with since RtCW and we've gone from over 30 in strength to about 8-10 actives, so although getting a big server filled up is not usually a problem, the quality of the game suffers with lots of pubbies on. I prefer an 8v8 with my skilled team mates on TS with me over an anonymous 32 people fragfest with no team work going on whatsoever.

I'm quite excited about this now. Only one month!?
Is this date official or just some guestimation by the EG editorial team?
Feet
23/04/07 @ 14:32
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Oh baby. I can't wait, sounds like they've kept alot of stuff that made ET great. I have pre-ordered and I'm so happy Splash Damage have done a good job! ^_^_^_^_^_^_^
Garibaldi
23/04/07 @ 14:34
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"16 players?!

I expected at least 32. I'm disappointed."

I must confess I just lost interest in the preview after learning it was 8v8, I'm sure it's still fun but I want the battles to feel like *war* rather than a mild skirmish.
Adam_T
23/04/07 @ 14:35
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Still havn't got my ID pre-order thing, not heard a peep from play.com :( :(
Feet
23/04/07 @ 14:37
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Surely there will be maps with 16 v 16 as an option though. I got the impression they were just talking about this play through on this map specifically. If it is 8 v8 max I'll be a touch dissappointed too.
peak_performance
23/04/07 @ 14:46
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From earlier interviews I remember SD stating that "no" maximum player limit would be enforced - servers would be able to set their own limits. They've also said that the maps are balanced for 16-24 players.

I wonder if EG has gotten it wrong, and gone for the maximum player limit for the 360 version, which is 16 players?
Tomo
23/04/07 @ 14:54
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Well, I prefer smaller server amounts. I think this could do with 64 player support for massive damage but I much more enjoy smaller 16 player servers. It keeps the game tighter, lag down and is better for community growth I've found in previous games online.
malarky
23/04/07 @ 14:59
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The game supports 32 players max, not 16.

-malarky@splashdamage.com
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DUFFKING
23/04/07 @ 15:26
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RTCW ET just became a massive skilless spam fest with large player counts. 8 a side FTW.
El_MUERkO
23/04/07 @ 15:31
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Quake Wars shows ID cant make an engine clever enough to handle 20+ players.

16?

16!?!

We had 16 players on larger maps years ago!

So we get wing mirrors that break. pfft.

I'll take large scale tank battle in ArmA over outdated gaming restrictions given a new lick of paint.
Whizzo
23/04/07 @ 15:39
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Has everyone complaining about player numbers got malarky on ignore or something?

The article is WRONG.
Gurgeh
23/04/07 @ 15:43
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@El_Muerko "Quake Wars shows ID cant make an engine clever enough to handle 20+ players"

You do know Quakeworld supported 64 player servers almost 10 years ago? The issue is more about gameplay than engines.

And yes the article is wrong - this game will support up to 24 players.
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StarchildHypocrethes
23/04/07 @ 15:44
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Hmmm.

I had been looking forward to this, but then I was informed that we had transported back in time to 1998 and so could only have 8 players to a team.

That's rubbish.

Edit: Ok, so someone says it's actually 32, but still after 64 player goodness on BF it's still a bit crap.

Edit 2: Or maybe 24 according to someone else. Any other suggestions?
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Slim
23/04/07 @ 15:45
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It sounds an awful lot like UT Assault mode doesn't it? Assault is fun for a bit of a change, but not really a mode with any longevity.

Can anyone who's played both comment on the difference?
Saladin
23/04/07 @ 15:47
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Sounds good to me, to be honest. This game sounds ready-made for LANs, and who cares if there's 32 players on a server if the game is more focused?
Gurgeh
23/04/07 @ 15:50
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AFAIK the maps are designed for 12 players per team but the engine can handle more (providing the server and net connection is up to it).
Ryuken
23/04/07 @ 15:53
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"For a game which maxes out at eight players per team Quake Wars produces an unreal quantity of carnage."

I always heard 32 players max as well, which seems a much better number for a vehicle-based shooter.
Xerx3s
23/04/07 @ 15:54
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Remember when I said I would kill you last?... I lied

Arnold playing as that matrix guy. What do I win?
richardiox
23/04/07 @ 15:59
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May 25th? Woohoo! Thought the pc versh was delayed along with the console versions. Great news, cant wait.
Metalfish
23/04/07 @ 16:18
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@Slim

I guessing the differences would be in the way that wolfenstien was a lot like assault on most maps, but tended to play better having been designed for purpose.
zuljin
23/04/07 @ 16:20
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@Xerx3s
"Arnold playing as that matrix guy. What do I win?"

I didn't know there was anything to win... Hey I mentioned Commando bout 25 posts up!!!
GitSomE UK
23/04/07 @ 16:21
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25th May! WOOHOO!

/Bank holiday weekend gone
peak_performance
23/04/07 @ 16:32
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@StarchildHypocrethes
Considering that malarky apparently works at Splash Damage he should know. 32 it is then. Furthermore, considering that 32 players is the normal BF2 server limit and that those 32 players will be fighting at one place all the time in ET:QW it should prove more than enough :)
Roccus
23/04/07 @ 17:07
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This article contradicts itself, it says "12 players per team" (i.e. 24 players) and then says 16 players fighting it out in the next paragraph.

Splash damage have stated that the PC is 24 players (although purely for gameplay reasons) and the the console version are 16 players.
Machetazo
23/04/07 @ 17:23
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This sounds fan-fooking-tastic. I predict a Quake Wars/Halo 3 conflict (on the Xbox side, obviously) with QW the likely "victor", as I think this is likely to keep people engaged for longer, with far less downtime - the man cannon (people-skeeter, as I refer to it) is unlikely to keep the action flowing, as well as QW's role/task system.

There's surely room for both, though. May 25 for QW is being really optimistic.
reality_cheque
23/04/07 @ 18:55
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Do we even have a vague idea of the 360 version release date? Can't afford to upgrade my PC this side of ever.
Shrike
23/04/07 @ 19:18
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Large amounts of players do not a good online team shooter make. Team Fortress? UT? The original Enemy Territory?
Carrybagma
23/04/07 @ 20:33
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Surely having the three 'best games evah made' on the 360 is of huge significance? Perhaps it means the end of the world, or first contact, or the coming of the Messiah?

We three kings of Orient are;
Bearing gifts we traverse afar,
Gears of War, Halo and Quake Wars,
Exclusively on XBOX 360.

O star of wonder, star of light,
Star with royal beauty bright,
Bungie leading, Halo3 proceeding,
Guide us to thy perfect light.
YourMessageHere
23/04/07 @ 20:54
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I'm really wary about this. For a start, ID seem to have been incapable of anything but nice engines since Quake II; Q3, RtCW, Doom3 and Q4 were pretty awful, although I'll admit I've not bothered with ET. Also, I don't see this being all that revolutionary, more a BF clone that focuses on smaller numbers, probably in order to allow console ports, and has a few amusing gimmicks. Granted, it could be great, but I'm far from hyped. So far as I can see this needs some phenomenal map design to be both small enough to be continually fun for 24 players and big enough to contain the variety and openness that will make vehicles good and useful.

BTW It says "For a game which maxes out at 12 players per team". This is not 16. Read better.
Salaman
23/04/07 @ 21:27
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I'm not fussed. There were plenty of RtCW servers around with 64 players and it was just chaotic mayhem.
Same on ET. You get massive amounts of players in and it's just twitchy fragfest-o-rama.

based on how they focus the fighting on the consecutive objectives some maps may get crowded with more than 12 or so a side.

I'm happy with smaller numbers being able to provide you a good game.

It's all a bit early to say though isn't it? Why not wait, buy the game, go online and then come back with an informed opinion rather than screaming murder now.
Whizzo
23/04/07 @ 21:28
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Just for you YMH, a quote from higher up in the thread :
The game supports 32 players max, not 16.

-malarky@splashdamage.com


The article originally said it only supported 16, it's getting closer to the correct figure but it's not quite there yet...
bioreit
23/04/07 @ 21:35
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@ everyone criticising ID for this (implied criticism or direct)

You DO realise that this is being developed by Splash Damage, not ID right? I mean - we even have Malarkey from the team giving us information!

But noooooo, we all have to go "8 players? That is teh non-r0x0r5!" and "ID?! Pfft! I can code better games in my sleep and I didn't even know how to bind circle-strafing to keys back in Quake!"

Please guys, I know it's hard, but give the gerbils a little run on the old thinkin' wheel before committing your brain vomit to words.

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